Skip to comments.On Segregation: Governor Haley Barbour vs. Governor Mike Huckabee
Posted on 12/27/2010 10:38:42 AM PST by grassboots.org
Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour recently put his foot in his mouth as all potential presidential candidates do from time to time. His gaffe, which shows up in a Weekly Standard feature article, consisted of two parts.
The first part of the goof was concerning racial segregation where Barbour says I just don't remember it being that bad. The author of the story, Andrew Ferguson, gave his take on Barbours remark:
"I don't think that he meant segregation wasn't that bad. I think he meant that it didn't roil the town the way some people might think it did." He added: "I get the sense that [Barbour] himself was just kind of oblivious. He was a fun loving football player, probably chasing skirts and all that."I think moderate and conservative blacks are offended not by bad policy decisions but for white failure to see how bad it was in the Jim Crow days. Some of us just dont get it. It ought to impinge on our consciousnesses.
Ferguson said he got a similar sense from others he spoke to in Yazoo City. "No one I talked to would defend segregation or anything like that -- it just didn't impinge on their consciousness the way it does ours in retrospect."
Whites often dont gain respect from blacks on the issue of race. Whites mistakenly think they must hold liberal policy positions. Liberals think they must talk down to them. Admittedly liberals get by with racially dim-witted comments and pay no price: Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid are prime examples of the phenomenon. White Democratic politicians are never going to get the scrutiny for these racially tinged comments, just as Bill Clinton could get away...
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I can’t see how anyone could be a supporter of the Huckster. He is as phony as can be. The only good thing about him is that he is pro-life which is my number one issue but he is horrible pretty much everywhere else especially fiscal areas.
I really haven’t looked into specifics on the Huckster’s positions and policies, but there’s something about him I don’t trust. I’ll admit it’s just my gut feelings, but I’ve found I’m usually right about these things. I’m more than willing to listen to any pro or con opinions of him, but something about Huck doesn’t ring true to me.
Blogpimp, teapot tempest, race card up the sleeve alert.
You're either a brave man or a fool by admitting that around here...
BTW, Huck's people have been behind much of the slime being hurled at Sarah Palin from within the GOP.
There are scores of other issues I agree with Huckabee on including the Fair Tax, his view of the UN, his approach to health care (he is the only candidate I know of that has completely rejected the pre-existing condition coverage mandate), he was against TARP from the beginning, and of course, the stimulus packages.
I don’t agree with everything he supports (I do think he accepts government solutions when private ones would be better, for example).
But I am still waiting for the candidate with the same priorities and principals as Huckabee. Please make a recommendation.
That is what I always appreciate from the opponents of Huckabee, a good thoughtful post in response to the original premise (in this example, the blogpost above).
Well I think that Jim DeMint is good. I also think that Michelle Bachmann should be at least Vice President. Sarah is good. She will be tested here soon. Regardless of who runs, I CAN’T WAIT for the debates. They should be something if not entertaining.
Brave or foolhardy, it has to be done.
The people who have been sliming Palin are Romney backers, they hate Huck as much as Palin (Rove and company)
I know in your hatred you hope that repeating the Clemmons story will get the job done, but citing it does not make it as nasty you display. Clemmons got a sentence way out of line with his crimes. Others made the decision to release him after many more problems.
I could easily vote for Demint or Bachmann.
The last thing we need is a nanny-wanna-be Gomer Pyle as Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. Add him to the Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, “hell no” list. He wanted to regulate pretty much everything in Arkansas and was little better than Clinton, just a different letter behind his name.
You just sense the same thing I do about Huck.
The guy is oily. I hear him talking and I grab my watch to make sure it’s still there, if you know what I mean.
He comes from the same “Arkansas Slick” school as Bubba.
A conman is not what we need with all the problems we have.
There is also a video of Huck as a fat governor of Arkansas addressing the legislature in which he tells them that he thinks tax hikes are just fine and that he has no problem with high spending.
Where do people like you come from? Do you intentionally ignore the facts because they don't fit well with the pro-Huckabee agenda you wish to promote? Are you one of those folks who thinks violent offenders can be rehabilitated so you willingly release these monsters back into society?
Until now, Huckabee has refused to comment on his controversial policy of making violent prisoners eligible for parole they include murderers, armed robbers and rapists, who often return to a life of crime after theyre freed but in a statement to The Leader this week, he lashed out at prosecutors for not doing more to keep prisoners behind bars to which Pulaski County Prosecuting Attor-ney Larry Jegley had this response: Thats a load of baloney.
Im offended as a prosecutor and as a citizen. He can blame the prosecutors, but ultimately hes the man responsible, Jegley says. Hes the only one who can sign on the dotted line.
_ In addition, Jegley, Saline County Prosecuting Attorney Robert Herzfeld and others have accused Huckabee of violating the state Constitution when he commutes sentences without explanation. The Constitution requires the governor to give reasons why he grants clemency to criminals.
He doesnt do it, insists Herzfeld, who recently had a clemency overturned because Huckabee did not explain why he commuted a murderers life sentence."
Clemmons got a sentence way out of line with his crimes.
Let's look att he facts you wish to ignore. This is from a 2004 article in the Arkansas Ledger:
Maurice Clemmons received a 35-year sentence in the early 1990s for armed robbery and theft. His sentence was commuted in May 2000, and he was let out three months later.
The following March, Clemmons committed two armed robberies and other crimes and was sentenced to 10 years. Youd think theyd keep him locked up after that, but no: He was paroled last March and is now wanted for aggravated robbery.
If Huckabee decides to set these criminals free, Jegley says, at least he ought to give an accounting. I cant imagine why in the world theyd want them released from jail. Theres a good reason were afraid of them. The sad truth is that a significant number of people re-offend.
The victims families, Jegley says, deserve an explanation. I look into peoples eyes whove suffered the unspeakable. I believe they deserve justice.
"Via the Arkansas Times blog, heres a 1998 court document from Arkansas detailing some of Clemmons criminal history and courtroom threats including hiding a hinge in his sock that he intended to use as a weapon against a judge and extracting a lock from a jail cell that he threw at his mother during court proceedings:"
This disaster is just one of Huckabees ill-considered clemency legacies.
Remember Wayne Dumond?
Again, via the Arkansas Times circa 2005 a closer look at how Huckabee tried to evade responsibility for setting a convicted rapist free only to rape again:
The occasion prompts us to republish Murray Waas prize-winning article for the Arkansas Times in 2002 about the extraordinary steps Gov. Mike Huckabee took to help win Dumonds freedom. He has since blamed others for Dumonds release to kill again, but his actions over many years demonstrated his support for Dumond and, ultimately, the instrumental role he played in the parole boards decision to free him.
New sources, including an advisor to Gov. Mike Huckabee, have told the Arkansas Times that Huckabee and a senior member of his staff exerted behind-the-scenes influence to bring about the parole of rapist Wayne Dumond, who Missouri authorities say raped and killed a woman there shortly after his parole.
Huckabee has denied a role in Dumonds release, which has become an issue in his race for re-election against Democrat Jimmie Lou Fisher. Fisher says Huckabees advocacy of Dumonds freedom, plus other acts of executive clemency, exhibit poor judgment. In response, Huckabee has shifted responsibility for Dumonds release to others, claiming former Gov. Jim Guy Tucker made Dumond eligible for parole and saying the Post Prison Transfer Board made the decision on its own to free Dumond.
But the Times new reporting shows the extent to which Huckabee and a key aide were involved in the process to win Dumonds release. It was a process marked by deviation from accepted parole practice and direct personal lobbying by the governor, in an apparently illegal and unrecorded closed-door meeting with the parole board (the informal name by which the Post Prison Transfer Board is known).
After Huckabee told the board, in executive session, that he believed Dumond got a raw deal, according to a board member who was there, and supported his release, board chairman Leroy Brownlee personally paved the way for Dumonds release, according to board records and former members. During that time from December 1996 to January 1997 Brownlee regularly consulted with Butch Reeves, the governors prison liaison, on the status of his efforts, two state officials have told the Times.
Dumond was transferred to the Tucker unit in December 1996, after his request for rehearing. Had he stayed at Varner, he could not have been scheduled for a new hearing before Jan. 20, 1997, Huckabees deadline to act on his announcement that he was considering commuting Dumonds sentence. His transfer which the Department of Corrections has explained in conflicting ways allowed him to get on the Tucker hearing schedule, which let the board parole Dumond before Huckabees deadline and thus take the heat for his release.
When the board paroled Dumond in January 1997, he had been in prison since 1985 for the rape of Ashley Stevens, a Forrest City high school student. The board made Dumonds parole conditional upon his moving out of state, but initially authorities in Florida, Texas, and other states declined to allow him to move there. Dumond was finally released in October 1999, when he moved to DeWitt to live with his stepmother.
In August 2000, Dumond moved to Smithville, Mo., a rural community outside Kansas City. He had married a woman from the community who was active in a church group that had visited Dumond in prison and believed him to be innocent.
Only six weeks after Dumond moved to Missouri, Carol Sue Shields, of Parkville, Mo., was found murdered in a friends home. She had been sexually assaulted and suffocated.
In late June 2001, Missouri authorities charged Dumond with the first-degree murder of Shields. The Clay County, Mo., prosecutors office asserted that skin found under Shields fingernails, the result of an apparent struggle with her murderer, contained DNA that matched Dumonds.
Missouri authorities also say that Dumond is the leading suspect in the rape and murder of a second woman, Sara Andrasek, of Platte County, Mo., though he has not yet been charged with that crime.
Andrasek was 23. Like Shields, Andrasek had her brassiere cut from her body; Dumond cut Stevens bra off before he raped her.
Its as if he wanted to leave us his calling card, a Missouri law enforcement officer said.
Huckabee is a liar. He's a con man. He's responsible for the unnecessary deaths of many innocent people. He's scum. Why you insist on defending scum like Huckabee is a mystery.
The only controversy is that manufactured by the MSM and vomited up by every talking head and blog pimp.
Haley spoke of his PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND RECOLLECTIONS.
I recall when my school was integrated. A couple of knuckleheads wanted to cause problems for the black kids. A couple of dozen football players put a stop too. No violence; things worked out just fine. Sound familiar?
The Huckster?? Really?