Skip to comments.Why conservatives should want to bail out California
Posted on 12/27/2010 5:21:08 PM PST by Nachum
Its looking increasingly likely that California will get bailed out by the federal government. The Golden State is $70 billion in the hole. Analysts expect that figure to reach $150 billion within four years and thats not including the states $500 billion unfunded pension liability. Spending needs to be cut dramatically, but it wont be; the state is too politically dysfunctional to do that. And the election of big-spender Jerry Brown will only make things worse. (Incidentally, Governor-elect Brown recently described his states budget problems this way: It is much worse than I thought. I am shocked.)
Most conservatives are adamantly opposed to bailing out any state, especially California. They argue that Californians in particular dont deserve a bail out, that a bailout would set a bad example for other states, and that it would cost too much.
But these arguments assume that a bailout of California would come with no strings attached. That may be what ends up happening, but it doesnt have to. Its possible to make the bailout contingent on Sacramento making drastic budget cuts and passing constitutional amendments that radically reform the states political system.
And the states political system is certainly in need of reform. Some ideas: Scaling back the states maze of regulations; eliminating some of its hundreds of unnecessary boards and commissions; imposing a real spending cap (the current one is too high to make a difference); laying off state employees; and reducing future pension obligations.
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California is like a drunk - we need to hit rock bottom before we start to rehabilitate.
They'll just take it as a green light to spend some more.
There won’t be any belt tightening or other reforms. Like every other government do-good project, it will just become another black hole into which politicians will throw taxpayers’ dollars.
And another thing: Most other states are hurting too. Will anyone come and bail out my state when it sinks into bankruptcy? Probably not.
As my mother said, the way you make your bed is the way you lay in it. In other words, you created the situation; you get out of it yourself.
I bet this guy believes in Tinkerbell, too.
I don’t want my own state of Michigan getting bailed out let alone California.
You just need to read the headline to realize this article was written by a moron.
If the GOP bails out California, there is going to be a conservative revolt like never before. Make them increase the taxes on Carl Reiner and the other Hollywood elite. They got them into this mess. Make them dig their way out.
I would bail them out under the following conditions.
1. Eliminate any regulations and agencies created after Ronald Reagan left the governorship.
2. Return tax rates to 1974 levels.
3. Decertify all public employees unions.
4. Arrest or close all companies and businesses that hire illegal aliens.
5. Return the California school system to the exact way it way it was in 1974.
This would be start before I would give them a penny.
“Its possible to make the bailout contingent on Sacramento making drastic budget cuts and passing constitutional amendments that radically reform the states political system.”
Put all of the California politicians in jail with Madoff, and then we can talk.
The liberals in Kaulifornia would probably opt for mass suicide before accepting one of those conditions. Fine by me. They weren’t important people anyway.
I'm opposed to any bailouts of governmental entities, even if it's Northfield Township here, or nearby Ann Arbor close to home.
I cannot think of a single reason why we would want to bail out that bunch of big-government, elitist, socialists. I'm referring to the leadership, I realize there are some conservatives marooned in CA.
I say let them crash, badly. The harder the better. I want their utter failure to be an object lesson to the rest of the Country.
And we can end drug addiction by give junkies their fixes.
And we can end alcoholism by offering drunks free booze.
You left out a couple of things.
1. All publicly funded pensions must be halted. No pension contributions to any public employee by the state of California.
2. All public employees must earn wages that are equal or less than the private sector. Wages must be adjusted BEFORE any contributions are made to the California budget by the federal government.
“Learn to swim, I’ll see you down in Arizona bay.”
To continue with your metaphor, the GOP is like a great enabling abused spouse. They will vote to bail out Califa just to be able to go on TV, wag their fingers and announce they have imposed new controls. Any doubts after the lame duck compromise?
Bail out California or wipe the First Lady’s a** with my bare hand.
Gee, that’s a tough one. I’ll have to think about it...
A better article would be titled “Why liberals should not want to bail out California.”
California is one of the richest States in the union. Liberal Californians are always complaining that taxes are too low.
Well, stop whining and increase them in California to pay your debts. Increase taxes on the rich. You’ve got lots of rich to tax. Tax them til they scream. I don’t see any reason why poor people in Mississippi should be paying higher taxes to bail out a rich State like California. It’s not progressive. It’s immoral.
“Its looking increasingly likely that California will get bailed out by the federal government.”
Clear grounds for secession.
Let it die.
They'll accept them to get the money. They'll lie through their teeth about actually complying with them. There's no deal you can make with them they'll be able to hold up their end of. They don't know how.
I think we should sell California to the Chinese as a start in buying down our debt.
In general, they are both socialist commies and would get along okay.
As soon as they've got the money, kiss it goodbye along with whatever they promised in exchange.
Conservatives in Kalifornia are against all bailouts!
This state MUST learn it’s lessons the hard way!
That isn't a choice that is compatible with a society based upon personal freedoms.
That is a choosing of sentencing for hard core criminal actions.
Another thing to tack on for their acceptance would be the numerous buried neutron bombs throughout the state that will be set off accordingly when the terms of the bailout are violated.
As a marooned conservative in CA, I AGREE!!
The liberals need to be taught a lesson: MONEY DOES NOT GROW ON TREES!!!!
And let Brown sink with the state, the fools voted for him, they can reap the consequences.
They'd dig them up and give them to Al- Qaida.
Dear CA, we have received your request for funds to cover your indebtedness. DENIED.
Didn’t California boycott Arizona for SB1070? Why should we want to bail them out again? So we can force them to lie to us? I don’t think so.
Bailing out CA is GM-UAW bailout x 1000
Let CA go bankrupt.
If I was king of the world i would tell california if they even hint at asking for a bailout, they will lose their statehood and be made a territory and be charged ten billion dollars for the paperwork. non payment will result in the california territory being auctioned off to the highest bidder. I would consider trading straight up for Alberta if canada is interested.
BS. This conservative has not even the remotest desire to bail out California. They made their bed, now they can lie in it. As a taxpayer, I do not want a single taxpayer dollar to go towards rewarding the irresponsibility, malfeasance, and downright stupidity of California politicians and the idiot California voters who continue to elect them for office in light of their repeated failures.
Bail out California?
And just to let you know, I no longer purchase California produce. I will go out of my way to purchase Mexican tomatoes just so I don't put a dime into California. If they are stupid enough to re-elect Jerry Brown and Barbara Boxer, they don't deserve my business. Let them rot. And let their elitist liberal tax-avoiding bond holders rot as well. Screw 'em. Have I made my point?
As bad as it is here in Michigan, at least we elected a RINO governor and a Republican legislature.
That was really rude of me, sorry. I’m not feeling at all well. Signing off to put my head down.
This will happen anyway if they don't get bailed out.
Northern California is already owned by the Chinese!! Just go in to any Costco.
I am a conservative and a Californian. I do NOT want the federal government bailing this state out.
attaching strings to crack doesn’t end crack addictions - it just teaches junkies how to use scissors.
I may not be the brightest, but what would happen if all those pension funds weren’t able to pay those exorbitant figures and they said “Screw you, we can’t afford it” and they stopped paying them. What would they do, sue the State and if they did, where exactly would the money come from if it’s broke?
Put me out of my misery and tell me why it couldn’t happen.
6. California is immediately a “shall issue” state. No excuses.
I dont want the government’s money for CA - its like drugs for a junkie.
Bail out a state that spent 1/2 billion dollars to build a high school? Cold day in hell!
Bo NOT bail us out! How will our leaders LEARN? This is basic psychology.
Even IF we were able to come to terms, nobody would ever enforce them. CA would spend the money then look for more...with no intention of ever enacting the harsh medicine.
Not. One. Penny.
Being fiscally responsible means saying no...PERIOD.
If they bailout CA...watch TX ditch the union.
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