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Tucker Carlson is Correct. Animal Cruelty Should be an Execution-Worthy Offense
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | December 29, 2010 | David Swindle

Posted on 12/29/2010 4:36:24 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson

That's Maura, the third member of the Swindle-Bey household. She brings nothing to the table except unconditional love and affection. That's what dogs do. We take care of them, and they take care of us. They are the most innocent, pure, selfless spirits to emerge since the Dawn of Time.

What kind of person would want to brutally torture to death such embodiments of goodness?

Michael Vick.

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1 posted on 12/29/2010 4:36:28 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

I have to disagree...


2 posted on 12/29/2010 4:37:56 PM PST by Talkradio03 (Talkradio03)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
What kind of person would want to brutally torture to death such embodiments of goodness?

ANSWER: The same ones that would discard a human....


3 posted on 12/29/2010 4:40:40 PM PST by cbkaty (Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy---W Churchill)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Completely disagree...man has dominion over the lower created order...

This is not license to ravage the creation but “animal cruelty” is not just limited to dog fighting. Look at the high protein alternatives offered at your local grocery store. A lot of animals were systematically slaughtered to provide it.

Give me a break.


4 posted on 12/29/2010 4:40:58 PM PST by Tribemike1
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

My Dad always told me that the most reliable indicator of a man’s character is how he treats a dog.


5 posted on 12/29/2010 4:41:21 PM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
Ain't buying it. In the order of things someone that intentionally hurts an animal is a very bad person, but should not be put to death.
6 posted on 12/29/2010 4:41:24 PM PST by Jolla
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To: Arm_Bears
One of my favorite quotes in the book Lincoln by Gore Vidal is a line from Ward Leman Lincolns guy that “got things done” mentioned this man that had all the qualities of a dog except loyalty!
7 posted on 12/29/2010 4:43:50 PM PST by Jolla
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

“Completely disagree...man has dominion over the lower created order...”

Amen, Amen, Amen

Man and animals are not on the same level!


8 posted on 12/29/2010 4:47:14 PM PST by born2bfree
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

I wonder if David has eaten a pork chop recently?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_vqIGTKuQE


9 posted on 12/29/2010 4:48:01 PM PST by Catphish
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

That’s gonna raise PeTA accusations to potentially Capital Offenses. We can end up with entire Perdue plant employees facing the DP.


10 posted on 12/29/2010 4:49:05 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: born2bfree

I might agree that men and animals are not on the same level, but that does not prevent me from concluding that I prefer the company of dogs over most humans.


11 posted on 12/29/2010 4:52:03 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Do you know what will happen if you die in your home and Fido and Tabby get hungry? Hmmmm?

I’m an animal lover. Hell on a nice, cool Fall evening I still miss my Sampson sitting beside me on the front porch. He was my 135 lb. Bullmastiff lapdog! That dog protected me twice from coyotes. What is disgusting about the Vick case for me is that nobody has mentioned how many babies are stabbed in the head, dismembered, and then vacuumed from the wombs of the women that are supposed to protect them with their lives. Also disturbing is that if these thugs are capable of doing such things to animals, what are they capable of doing (or have they already done) to humans. He paid his debt to society and I truly pray that he is a reformed man.


12 posted on 12/29/2010 4:56:08 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: OldPossum

Here is an example of someone who deserves the death penalty.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/29/missouri-man-allegedly-admits-instances-child-rape-molestation/?test=latestnews


13 posted on 12/29/2010 4:56:45 PM PST by born2bfree
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
You go down this path, that animals are anything other than property, and someday you will be surprised to find that raising animals for food is illegal, and keeping animals as pets is illegal.

It's not a slippery slope. It's a fascist freight train that soft hearts-and-heads will never see coming until it is too late.

14 posted on 12/29/2010 4:59:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
Vick does not deserve execution, but he DOES deserve contempt. Facilitating dogfighting is a reprehensible act.

I have had the pleasure of living with working dogs, house pets, and show dogs. Each has a purpose, specifically designed by our "higher order".

By all means, lets argue the point, but I rescued a Pyrenees who had his f***ing jaw broken and an eye removed as a bait dog. Any person who thinks that is acceptable is just a bad person.

Some perspective: baby seals get clubbed, but not for fun. Livestock are killed, but not for fun. Even the whalers aren't doing it for sport, and if you hunt without considering your role for the greater (or in the case of your personal nourishment) good, you're troubled.

15 posted on 12/29/2010 5:01:25 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: goodwithagun
"He paid his debt to society and I truly pray that he is a reformed man."

Do you really believe that? I think that the only regret that Vick has is that he got caught.

16 posted on 12/29/2010 5:06:24 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
What kind of person would want to brutally torture to death such embodiments of goodness?

I'll tell you exactly, its

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17 posted on 12/29/2010 5:09:21 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

The Vikings came close to executing Vick last night.


18 posted on 12/29/2010 5:09:37 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: Arm_Bears

TRUE, TRUE, TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact I knew I really loved my now husband when I saw how he treated animals; he loves them and waitresses; he is kind & sweet.


19 posted on 12/29/2010 5:11:15 PM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: born2bfree

Don’t you think you’re off-topic there? I was merely observing that I prefer the company of dogs. I had nothing to say about the recommendation that Mr. Vick be executed.


20 posted on 12/29/2010 5:12:30 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Not too sure about Vick but it might be worthwhile to consider the death penalty for anyone who wears a bow-tie.


21 posted on 12/29/2010 5:14:05 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Liberals are drooling buffoons backed by satanic goons.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

When I was a child dogs ran free and every now and then a real doggie brawl would take place. Hundreds would gather, men, women and children bets would fly even the local police would watch. I tend to think dog fights should be legalized. George Washington was an avid fan of cockfights so throw them in the mix. Dewussify the masses.


22 posted on 12/29/2010 5:18:14 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: goodwithagun
Also disturbing is that if these thugs are capable of doing such things to animals, what are they capable of doing (or have they already done) to humans.

You might also ask that of your local butcher.

I think you will find they are rarely cannibals.

23 posted on 12/29/2010 5:21:56 PM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
Carlson is Correct. Animal Cruelty Should be an Execution-Worthy Offense

He said as he ate his Chicken McNuggets.

24 posted on 12/29/2010 5:22:21 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Add me to those who think this line of thinking—that execution is warranted for animal cruelty—is morally abohorent. As others have pointed out, its not excusing animal cruelty charges and Vick should have gone to jail and paid a fine (as he did) but—let’s repeat this again and again—animals are NOT HUMANS. You may love your dog but I hope to God you realize its just a dog. A dog is not a human. A dog has no soul. Dogs are nice and give you comfort—so does a warm glass of milk. I love animals and have had dogs my whole life. I would never hurt one and I spoil them just like other dog owners do. But it is not a “member of the family”. It is a dog.


25 posted on 12/29/2010 5:26:59 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: OldPossum

I claimed that I pray he is reformed, not that he is reformed. The only person that knows if he is or not is him. I’m not qualified to judge what is in a man’s heart. Now, if he does it again I can call him a liar.


26 posted on 12/29/2010 5:31:32 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Tribemike1
Ever thought about how many tens of thousands of creatures are killed and maimed for every cup of green tea you drink? There is not one tablespoon of any food product whatsoever that doesn't come at that cost. Nothing.

Slaughtering animals for food is in no way comparable to needless neglect and intentional torture inflicted on animals out of stupidity, greed or pleasure.

27 posted on 12/29/2010 5:33:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: born2bfree

“Completely disagree...man has dominion over the lower created order...”

Amen, Amen, Amen

Man and animals are not on the same level!

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Just curious, in the scheme of things which level would you consider yours? To the truly aware you present yourself to be the lowest of the low.


28 posted on 12/29/2010 5:34:36 PM PST by DefeatCorruption
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To: seowulf

Are you comparing my local butcher to an animal torturer? Are you a PETA member? You know that some sociopaths start with animals, right?


29 posted on 12/29/2010 5:36:43 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: TigersEye

Greed, Pleasure...is the reason we slaughter animals so we can get Rib-eye at $6.99/lb


30 posted on 12/29/2010 5:48:51 PM PST by Tribemike1
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To: Tribemike1

While it is quite true that man *does* have dominion over animals, anyone who can’t discern the difference between “humane” and “inhumane” is, in my opinion, a risk to society.

Compare the tendencies of violent felons and in their violent history you are likely to find animal abuse. Once someone reveals a proclivity towards animal *abuse*, I don’t see how they can ever be trusted again - and I won’t trust them. You can roll the dice with them if you like.

I am NOT referring to humane processing of livestock. I am referring to the inhumane handling of livestock; the likes of Vick who would use cats or smaller dogs to bait their fighting dogs; a kid who likes to torture pets, etc.

I consider them violent time-bombs just ticking away.

Opinions may vary.


31 posted on 12/29/2010 5:56:19 PM PST by jaydee770
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To: Tribemike1
Greed, Pleasure...is the reason we slaughter animals so we can get Rib-eye at $6.99/lb

If you think you can survive without eating anything then you have a point. As I said; the same applies to every single thing you eat as it does to your Rib Eye steak example. No exceptions.

32 posted on 12/29/2010 6:01:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Talkradio03

I’ll disagree too. The Bible gives death penalty for deliberate murder, forcible kidnapping, and forcible rape.

Of people.

If God does not give a death penalty, I would not advocate for one.


33 posted on 12/29/2010 6:02:08 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Hell, they don’t even execute people that kill humans, for Christ’s sake...


34 posted on 12/29/2010 6:05:53 PM PST by jrg
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Love those eyes! Beautiful!


35 posted on 12/29/2010 6:06:39 PM PST by jrg
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

I think that dogs that are unfit or vicious biters should be slaughtered and used as . . . dog meat! Dog gone it, there are people around the world who have savored the chewy taste of dog that is a lot like lamb.


36 posted on 12/29/2010 6:10:06 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: born2bfree

“Man and animals are not on the same level!”

Can’t be said often enough, evidently.

This is an issue on which right and left seemingly can agree to be equally stupid. I read somewhere the other day, from a big right winger (sorry, don’t remember who) that Vick had “murdered” dogs.

Now, I think it would be possible to “murder” a dog, but I think it’s most likely that Vick only KILLED dogs. And while that is deplorable it isn’t murder. And even if one did in fact, “murder” a dog it still wouldn’t be murder.

This is a very slippery slope and we should stay far away from its edge.

A pig is not a dog is not a boy.


37 posted on 12/29/2010 6:20:25 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Talkradio03
animals are not humans....humans have the responsibility to be good stewards.....

pagans treated animals like humans or should I say they treated humans as animals....

38 posted on 12/29/2010 6:21:34 PM PST by cherry
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Hog Wash. And I am not for cruelty to animals either. So what happens when one human is cruel to another. Do we execute them too? Life is full of injustices. The penalties have to make sense. If you execute someone for being cruel then what do you do to them when they murder someone? This is just nonsense from over emotional people who are incapable of looking at the big picture.


39 posted on 12/29/2010 6:27:32 PM PST by Revel
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Hey Walt! Your lack of proportional logic strikes me as of less gravitas than something Gracie Allen might have said to George Burns in one of their thrilling radio schticks of yesteryear. Torturers of animals should be be executed; but abortion butchers are to be protected, even celebrated as great personages? I have no respect for the former; but I also take great comfort in the knowledge that the latter face the hottest regions of hell when they slip this mortal plane.

“What kind of person would want to brutally torture to death such embodiments of goodness?” Your question would have made orders of magnitude more sense if you’d had a photo of an infant child there instead of the dog! Why don’t you picket Chinatown in most big cities, where they EAT dogs? And what about horses? Horses are slaughtered and eaten all over the place!

Not to mention the fact that DOG FIGHTING is a way of life all over the South. Illegal.......but still widespread.


40 posted on 12/29/2010 6:28:13 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: OldPossum

Good for you. And I would probably prefer my dog over you or your dog. So stick that in your pipe.


41 posted on 12/29/2010 6:37:59 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Arm_Bears

Really? Some people just don’t like dogs and would never own one. So maybe you should take your dad’s advice with a grain of salt.


42 posted on 12/29/2010 6:39:43 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You go down this path, that animals are anything other than property, and someday you will be surprised to find that raising animals for food is illegal, and keeping animals as pets is illegal.

It’s not a slippery slope. It’s a fascist freight train that soft hearts-and-heads will never see coming until it is too late.
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exactly. Personally I’m really sick of the so called animal lovers running amok on this site.


43 posted on 12/29/2010 6:42:16 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Um, no. Not until we start executing child molesters, child abusers, child rapists, and child killers.


44 posted on 12/29/2010 6:57:57 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Tribemike1
Look at the high protein alternatives offered at your local grocery store. A lot of animals were systematically slaughtered to provide

The animals you are referring to are feeding you and your family and were slaughtered in the most humane way possible.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you're not eating dogs that were systematically beaten to enhance their viciousness prior to being thrown into a fight pit and forced to fight to the death and those unlucky enough to die were subsequently taken home and thrown back into their pens and left to die.

Such dogs were not destined for your dinner table but instead used to satisfy the ghoolish and demented mentality of individuals who took pleasure in watching the torture of helpless animals........

It's unfortunate that you can't distinguish between the two.........

45 posted on 12/29/2010 6:58:29 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Tucker is an idiot


46 posted on 12/29/2010 7:12:48 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: mamelukesabre

And I’m sick of the mere humans attempting to interfere with my work with my animals. Back off. We don’t take kindly to the interference of flatlanders or whatever you are.


47 posted on 12/29/2010 7:16:26 PM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: OldPossum

To truly pay his debt to society, he’d have to be missing a few more body parts.


48 posted on 12/29/2010 7:21:06 PM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: Hot Tabasco

slaughtered in the most humane way possible???? LOLOLOL

You can’t have it both ways my friend...


49 posted on 12/29/2010 7:23:40 PM PST by Tribemike1
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

To truly dewussify the masses, the masses must be involved in one-on-one conflict. Let’s see these people (men, women, children) tossed into pits and engage in conflict until what?


50 posted on 12/29/2010 7:25:58 PM PST by Silentgypsy
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