Skip to comments.Will Obama Silence Blundering Abercrombie?(Hawaii's 'Progressive' Gov./Certifigate)
Posted on 01/03/2011 2:35:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
For reasons clear to no one just yet, Hawaii's new Democrat governor, Neil Abercrombie, has gone public with his desire to silence the so-called "birthers" with proof of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth.
"Maybe I'm the only one in the country," Abercrombie told the Los Angeles Times just before Christmas, "that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, 'I was here when that baby was born.'"
A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn't exactly see Obama's parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he "remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events."
Although the major media have questioned why Abercrombie would raise an issue that, according to the Los Angeles Times, "most people see as resolved," they take Abercrombie at his word as to what he knows about the young Obama family.
They shouldn't. Abercrombie's boasts about his relationship with the president's presumed parents, Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham, have got to unnerve the president and his close advisors. They know something the media perversely choose not to know: Abercrombie is remembering a past that never happened.
A member of the House's progressive caucus before his election as governor, Abercrombie has been talking excitedly about the relationship for years, playing John the Baptist to Obama's Jesus.
"Little Barry, that's what we called him," Abercrombie told the Chicago Tribune while "recalling his days with Obama Sr. and his future wife, Ann Dunham, at the University of Hawaii." If Obama were born on August 4, 1961, however, there could not have been many such days.
As is thoroughly documented, Ann and little Barry were in Seattle two weeks later, where she enrolled at the University of Washington. By the time she returned to Hawaii in late summer or fall 1962, Barack Sr. had left for Harvard for good.
Citing Abercrombie as source, a 2007 Hawaii TV news report claimed that Ann "became estranged from her husband, Barack Obama[,] Sr., after his departure for Harvard." I don't know about Hawaii, but in Missouri, if you flee your husband with baby in tow two weeks after his birth, that qualifies as "estrangement."
According to divorce papers filed in 1964, Barack Sr. and Ann married in Wailuku, Maui on February 2, 1961. But one has to wonder whether it was a marriage in anything but name, or whether there was a marriage at all. Obama himself writes in Dreams, "In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore."
No one attended the wedding -- not Abercrombie, not Ann's parents. In fact, no one in Barack Sr.'s clique seemed to know there was a relationship, let alone a wedding. Neil's brother Hal never saw Ann and Barack Sr. together. Another clique member, Pake Zane, who had distinct memories of Barack Sr., could not recall Ann at all. When Neil Abercrombie and Zane visited their friend in Nairobi in 1968, Barack Sr. shocked them by never once inquiring about his putative wife and 6-year-old son.
The 17-year-old Ann had met the 24 year-old Barack Sr. in Russian class at the University of Hawaii. Why they were studying Russian (in 1960, people like Lee Harvey Oswald studied Russian) is a question for another day. In Dreams, Ann provides only the sketchiest detail of their first date -- Barack Sr. came an hour late and with friends -- and nothing more.
A high school friend of Ann's claims to have received a letter or two from Ann in which she spoke about Barack Sr., and there is no reason to doubt her. But beyond this, there is no evidence of a relationship, and the only evidence for the marriage are the divorce papers, which are real and have been posted online.
One reason people marry in a county other than their own -- Maui County, for instance -- is to keep the announcement of the marriage license out of the local paper. By claiming a Maui wedding, and perhaps even attaining a Maui license, the Dunhams could have assured the baby an identity without drawing attention to the relationship.
If Obama had, in fact, been born out of wedlock, or if his father had been someone other than Barack Sr., that would not have affected Obama's eligibility for higher office, but it would have surely de-glamorized him. "Barry Dunham" does not exactly tease the imagination.
Whatever his contribution, Obama Sr. lent young Barry a name, an identity, and a romantic storyline. Obama's mother and grandparents sustained this narrative throughout Obama's childhood.
Barack Obama repeated this story in his memoir Dreams from My Father, and to good effect. When Obama hooked up with campaign guru David Axelrod in his 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, his story crystallized into a marketing strategy. In the retelling, little Barry is always two years old when Barack Sr. reluctantly leaves wife and son for Harvard. This is a lie.
Guided by Axelrod, Obama held off in his breakthrough keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic convention for all of 46 words -- including "Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much" -- before sharing his story with the world.
At the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver, Obama leaped into the story in the very first sentence. "Four years ago," he began, "I stood before you and told you my story -- of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to."
In between the two convention speeches, the story of Obama's birth was told more often than that of anyone's since Jesus. No one, of course, told it as convincingly as Obama himself, especially in his game-saving Philadelphia speech, immodestly titled "A More Perfect Union."
In this speech, delivered to negate the baleful impact of the Jeremiah Wright videos, Obama attributed his faith in the American people to his "own American story." He reminded those few registered voters who might somehow have forgotten that "I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas." Although the proto-hippie Ann spent her formative teen years in Seattle, the storyline always places her in Kansas.
Obama and his operatives would invest enormous political capital in what sympathetic biographer David Remnick calls his "signature appeal: the use of the details of his own life as a reflection of a kind of multicultural ideal." From the beginning, they worked hard to protect the investment and did what they had to do to keep the storytellers in line.
Abercrombie may not have gotten the memo. Although the president was likely born in the United States, he may not have been born in Hawaii, he may not have been born in August 1961, he may not have been the son of Barack Sr., or he may have simply been listed as "white" on his birth certificate.
The truth is that the storied little family never lived together. Any fact that blew the storyline could have derailed Obama's candidacy before it got going. Expect the Abercrombie fuss to just sort of fade away.
zero orchestrated this ... we’re still being played with.
“Gov. Abercrombie, have you ever knowingly bought and/or consumed illegal drugs?”
(question I’d love to see some journalist dare to ask)
And, we have no credible major news media to get to the bottom of it. Character matters and, eventually, Mother Nature will prove it.
First Clinton and now Obama. What is it about the Dems putting trailer trash into the White House?
Are you sure you could find a MSM journalist who could answer that question for himself/herself?
Cashill thinks AberCommie was hitting the blowhard bong one too many times.
One gets the impression that the number one thing on Stanley’s mind in August after giving birth...is to put as many miles between her, the parents, and this ‘husband’. I would also suspect that she checked out of the hospital as quickly as possible...probably not completing the certificate in the first place...and packed up to leave. You have to put yourself in her shoes...going to Hawaii was not plan number one (she was always planning a Chicago-area college), and this Kenyan guy probably didn’t turn out to be the dream guy that she’d imagined. And she sat out all of the second semester in Hawaii (Jan-Jun)...which put her way behind on getting finished with college.
I worked as a senior executive for a Hawaiian firm for a couple years, and (1) was "expected" to donate to this d=ckhead's campaign slush fund and (2) had to sit next to the a--hole at dinner one evening and listen to him bitch and moan about George Bush.
Abercrombie is a clown and a doofus. He wouldn't know his a-- from a hole in the ground. Unfortunately, Hawaii has to live with their choice for the next four years.
this may backfire on Abercrombie
this may backfire on Abercrombie
An earlier post of mine is very relevant to Cashill’s observatons. I speak as one who was a student present at the University of Hawaii in the years 1961-1966:
Hawaiis Leftist Governor Seeks Birther Revival
December 30, 2010 7:44:19 AM GMT+08:00 · 33 of 62
John Valentine to BenLurkin
I believe that Abercrombie may have confused two different sets of interracial couples with a child seen around the UH campus in the early sixties. The timeline of the Obama/Dunham saga would have allowed for precious few “social events” involving Obama Sr., Dunham, and the child.
Dunham was gone from Hawaii - off to Washington to attend UW - before the baby’s umbilical cord fell off, and Obama Sr. was off to Massachusetts before Dunham returned to Hawaii from Washington.
I don’t think there was ever any significant interaction between Obama and his son unless it took place via the postal system.
better it backfires on 0bambi
LOL....so Abercrombie and BO’s Communist parents were at the same parties....perhaps marching in May Day parades with their red kerchiefs on? Has Abercrombie been a supporter of Hillary? That would explain this bizarre turn of events.
Again no concept of the Natural Born Citizen clause. Either the reporter is a bald face liar or totally ignorant. There are plenty of possibilities that could have affected his eligibility if it was someone other than Barrack Sr.
Why hasn’t he shown the bc yet? That was last weeks news and they still have not produced even a sloppy piece of paper.
How does that connect with the lack of any evidence that they ever lived together in HI? There is proof of a divorce, but no mention of proof of a marriage.