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Palin, Beck, Tea Party are not responsible for Giffords shooting
examiner.com ^ | 1/8/2011 | Joe Newby

Posted on 01/09/2011 6:06:17 AM PST by FredJake

Let's get one thing straight.

Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Party are not responsible for the shooting of Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

In fact, the only person responsible is the nut who allegedly pulled the trigger. "Alleged", because that person is now in police custody awaiting trial, and in this country a person is innocent until proven guilty.

Unless you happen to be a conservative who disagrees with Barack Obama.

Liberal media pundits are turning themselves inside out blaming everyone to the right of Joseph Stalin, just as they did after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

Keith Olbermann attacked everyone at Fox News, and demanded Beck apologize for his rhetoric.

A reporter at CNN laid the blame at Sarah Palin for rhetoric that "allowed this kind of thing to happen."

Ignoring the entire eight years of the Bush Presidency, Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post made the ludicrous claim that "violent" rhetoric comes exclusively from the right.

Paul Krugman tried to lay the blame on Sarah Palin and her use of a target graphic.

A CBS report furthers the lunatic idea that Palin is responsible for the shooting because of the image of a target.

The Associated Press did the same thing, according to a post at Newsbusters.

Instead of looking at the background of the alleged shooter, the Democrat-media complex is hell bent on demonizing any critic of any Democrat as being responsible somehow for the tragedy in Arizona. According to the left, anyone who watches Fox News had a hand in the shooting.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: falseblame; freepressforpalin; giffords; liberalmedia; shooting
Really getting tired of the "right is violent" rhetoric. This is exactly what led to the camps of Nazi Germany.
1 posted on 01/09/2011 6:06:20 AM PST by FredJake
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To: FredJake
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...

Why not just post it here?

2 posted on 01/09/2011 6:08:32 AM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: FredJake

We need to start demanding answers as to why the left can’t produce video of Beck, Palin and others calling for violence. And we need to demand answers as to why they don’t show the growing pile of videos of leftists openly calling for violence.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 6:10:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FredJake

4 posted on 01/09/2011 6:12:29 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: FredJake

I guess you always have to look at who benefits from an action if you want to take a guess at who may be responsible.


5 posted on 01/09/2011 6:12:58 AM PST by riri
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To: FredJake

The would NEVER have happened if we WERE ABLE TO SEE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!


6 posted on 01/09/2011 6:13:30 AM PST by Flintlock
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To: humblegunner

Let’s get one thing straight.

Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Party are not responsible for the shooting of Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

In fact, the only person responsible is the nut who allegedly pulled the trigger. “Alleged”, because that person is now in police custody awaiting trial, and in this country a person is innocent until proven guilty.

Unless you happen to be a conservative who disagrees with Barack Obama.

Liberal media pundits are turning themselves inside out blaming everyone to the right of Joseph Stalin, just as they did after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

Keith Olbermann attacked everyone at Fox News, and demanded Beck apologize for his rhetoric.

A reporter at CNN laid the blame at Sarah Palin for rhetoric that “allowed this kind of thing to happen.”

Ignoring the entire eight years of the Bush Presidency, Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post made the ludicrous claim that “violent” rhetoric comes exclusively from the right.

Paul Krugman tried to lay the blame on Sarah Palin and her use of a target graphic.

A CBS report furthers the lunatic idea that Palin is responsible for the shooting because of the image of a target.

The Associated Press did the same thing, according to a post at Newsbusters.

Instead of looking at the background of the alleged shooter, the Democrat-media complex is hell bent on demonizing any critic of any Democrat as being responsible somehow for the tragedy in Arizona. According to the left, anyone who watches Fox News had a hand in the shooting.

But what about the person arrested for the attack?

Tom Blumer of Newsbusters writes:

Never mind that the person who allegedly shot Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and murdered several others, Jared Loughner, is reportedly a marijuana-using loner who lists the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as among his favorite books, or that the most recent items which could bee seen as potential incitements to violence against Giffords have come from the left, in response to her refusal to back Nancy Pelosi for Minority Leader in the House just days ago.

Doing the work the lazy liberal media refuses to do, Blumer continues:

• Here’s a link (partial screen grab here for when it comes down; corroborated by Tyler Durden at Zero Hedge) to Laughner’s YouTube profile.
• Here’s a screen grab of a DailyKos post from Thursday entitled “My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi And is mow DEAD to Me!” Charming. Michelle Malkin notes that the post has been pulled. The post’s author has left a comment stating: “i now am FULL of guilt after writing this diary. i am a proud atheist, so pray for yourself, not me. i don’t need prayers, nor want them.”
• It didn’t take me long to find this comment at another “progressive” forum, where proprietor “Booman” travels into the realm of desiring thuggery: “Here’s a list of disloyal jerkoff Democrats who didn’t vote for Pelosi as Minority Leader ... I hope Pelosi crushes these idiots and makes their lives miserable. I’m not kidding.”

Can the media be trusted after this? Hardly.

If liberals like Olbermann and Krugman had their way, conservatives would be stripped of their citizenship and tossed in concentration camps. Their words and actions are eerily reminiscent of certain 20th century European tyrants.

But if they want to play this game, fine.

In September 2010, a Florida man was sentenced to more than two years in prison for threatening a Republican Congresswoman. He admitted to the judge he watched too much MSNBC.

By the media’s so-called “logic”, Olbermann, Schultz, Maddow and Matthews are all responsible for the threat, not the man who actually did it.

But since the target was a Republican, no outcry was heard from anyone in the media.

Michelle Malkin has a rundown of the hate liberals expressed over George W. Bush, including a movie about the assassination of the President.

Where was Olbermann’s outrage over that?

Conservatives need to stand strong and push back against the despicable, slanderous lies of the mainstream press.

Glenn Beck did not pull the trigger. Neither did Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, or the Tea Party.

Conservative rhetoric or political campaign ads did not kill a 9-year-old girl and a federal Judge.

If Olbermann and Company want reasonable dialog, they can start by toning down their own hateful rhetoric.


7 posted on 01/09/2011 6:13:46 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: FredJake

If they want to play that game, then we can lay 9/11 at the feet of the Cultural Marxists/Nazis.


8 posted on 01/09/2011 6:14:12 AM PST by Jim 0216
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To: FredJake

Well considering two of his “favorite” books are Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto, I think we all know which side of the aisle this nut identified wit.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4


9 posted on 01/09/2011 6:16:20 AM PST by uptoolate (Free at last, Free at last... (former Chicagoan, current Cowtown resident))
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To: FredJake
Yeah it IS their fault! I read it on CNN!

/sarc

10 posted on 01/09/2011 6:17:06 AM PST by Celtic Cross (FREEPING ONE YEAR +2!!!)
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To: FredJake
If they want to play that game, then we can lay 9/11 at the feet of the Cultural Marxists/Nazis.

Not to mention the the work of the Cultural Marxists/Nazis of the infanticide of 50 million slaughtered unborn.

11 posted on 01/09/2011 6:18:44 AM PST by Jim 0216
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To: FredJake

Im really hoping people start standing up here this insane. I want Krauthammer to come out, George Will, Rove and Dana Perino and say this has nothing to do with Sarah Palin or the Tea Party and I am serious.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 6:19:55 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: FredJake
Thank God for the Web. If anything, it makes it so easy to find out the truth when it comes to the BS put out by the Ministry of Information state-run media.
13 posted on 01/09/2011 6:21:28 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: FredJake
Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Party are not responsible for the shooting of Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

That needs to be coming from the mouth of the marxist in chief, not holding my breath though.

Now if Palin said it, that would be a landmark moment in American political discourse.

Lets not forget as well that the LEFTIST PSYCHO that did this is a self admitted homosexual who was denied entry into military service.

In short, he demonstrates that he is every thing other than a right wing Republican, and that its high time we start looking at homosexuals like Loughner, Pfc. Bradley Manning, and Barney Frank as threats to public safety and national security.

14 posted on 01/09/2011 6:21:58 AM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: GoCards

Already had to correct a lib friend.on facebook. He’s spreading SarahPACs targeting map as some sort of proof Palin is responsible.


15 posted on 01/09/2011 6:28:16 AM PST by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: FredJake
"Alleged", because that person is now in police custody awaiting trial, and in this country a person is innocent until proven guilty.


This presumption is a legal one for the jury. Not one for the court of public opinion.

Because there's no doubt as to the shooter's identity, it is nonsensical to use the word "alleged." A = A. Why pretend otherwise?

If one followed the author's rationale, one would have to say "alleged socialist" to describe B. Hussein Obama because he hasn't been adjudicated as such.

Ridiculous.



16 posted on 01/09/2011 6:28:25 AM PST by peyton randolph (There is no such thing as moderate Islam)
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To: rintense

Awesome! Ive already dropped some nuggets to my email list. I am not on facebook or twitter. Maybe the only one in the world now. It may be time?


17 posted on 01/09/2011 6:30:53 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: rintense

Oh forgot, that lib friend of yours is no friend. He has gone off the deep end and Im glad you called him out. How many friends have LOST friends on facebook I wonder????


18 posted on 01/09/2011 6:32:55 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: FredJake

If those of us on the right are so violent, then why is it that the left always seem to the be the violent trouble makers at rallies? Hypocrisy forms the very bedrock of the left. Do as I say, not as I do.


19 posted on 01/09/2011 6:34:56 AM PST by NWFLConservative
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To: FredJake
The leftist, pro-Obama terrorist (self admitted)
was undoubtedly programmed by ABC, CNN, KOS
and the very same LSM and MSM propaganda sites
that blame others.

Is there any wonder why the Obama administration wants
to shut down the Internet?




More recently, in a series of videos he posted on YouTube,
Mr. Loughner, now 22 years old, rages against the government
and the constitution and refers to himself as a "terrorist."



Click here for more info



"Is Daily Kos involved in Arizona Murders?"




"Jared Lee Loughner Burning the American Flag"




Loughner...... Confirmed Leftist by Friend on Twitter"

20 posted on 01/09/2011 6:35:40 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: FredJake
Palin, Beck, TEA Party are not responsible for Gifford's shooting

That is stating the obvious. There are two appropriate responses to the baseless, ridiculous charges of the left: Ignore 'em, or mock 'em. Responding with anger or frustration only encourages 'em. We have bigger fish to fry. In the meantime, just sit back and allow the barking moonbats to make complete asses of themselves.

21 posted on 01/09/2011 6:36:13 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Rome2000
Another example that liberalism is a mental disorder


22 posted on 01/09/2011 6:38:09 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: cripplecreek
To the left, this is NOT inciting violence:

To the left, THIS is inciting violence:

23 posted on 01/09/2011 6:39:24 AM PST by SERKIT (We need more of Barry's "Wet Diaper" news conferences. He gets smaller and smaller each time.....)
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To: FredJake; All
The shooter was a liberal/democrat.But the mainstream media lies and says that Conservatives like Palin and Beck made this liberal shoot these people. These are actions of pure evil by the democrat media. The democrat mainstream is lying. The media is lying to destroy Palin,conservatives, and freedom of speech by just shouting evil lies from a trillion media outlets.

As I've said before the democrat mainstream media is the center of evil in the world. Can anyone agree with me now as they see how they are lying now?This is no surprise as all marxist/democrats are evil.

24 posted on 01/09/2011 6:47:51 AM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: FredJake

It’s disgusting that these leftists are exploiting the victims of this communist to attempt to thwart the political success the tea party, Sarah Palin, etc., are having against them.


25 posted on 01/09/2011 6:53:10 AM PST by alnick
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To: uptoolate

Yes, but two of the other books in that list are Animal Farm and We the Living. I think this guy was just a nut, who likely didn’t identify with either side of the aisle.


26 posted on 01/09/2011 6:54:34 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Flintlock

That statement is as ridiculous as blaming Sarah Palin’s use of surveyor symbols on a map for these shootings.


27 posted on 01/09/2011 6:54:55 AM PST by alnick
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To: FredJake

Isn’t it time the victims of the msm start taking legal action against them?


28 posted on 01/09/2011 6:56:25 AM PST by Toespi
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To: pnh102

Amen.


29 posted on 01/09/2011 7:00:30 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: SERKIT

30 posted on 01/09/2011 7:08:42 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: FredJake

Two things come to mind, one Rahm Emanual said never let a good crisis go to waste and two TWA 800 in 1996. Now Congress is holding up Health Care Repeal.


31 posted on 01/09/2011 7:16:43 AM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: FredJake

Two things come to mind, one Rahm Emanual said never let a good crisis go to waste and two TWA 800 in 1996. Now Congress is holding up Health Care Repeal.


32 posted on 01/09/2011 7:17:49 AM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: central_va
If Olbermann and Company want reasonable dialog, they can start by toning down their own hateful rhetoric.

Olbermann and co. should have been yanked off the air in 2003, as soon as they started spouting Al Qaeda propaganda when our troops were in harm's way in Iraq.

There is historical precedent for doing just that: FDR and Truman did not tolerate dissemination of enemy propaganda during WW2 and Korea, and Lincoln threw congressman and reporters with Confederate sympathies in jail.

33 posted on 01/09/2011 7:53:15 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: FredJake
Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post made the ludicrous claim that “violent” rhetoric comes exclusively from the right.

I was trying to find a video of this on YouTube with no luck, but in 1998 on the Conan O'Brien show, Alec Baldwin said the following about those who voted to impeach slick willie clinton:

Baldwin: “...we would all, right now, all of us together…would go down to Washington and stone Henry Hyde (leader of the Clinton impeachment effort) to death! … We would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and children. We would kill their families.”

Not a lot of "nuance" there. But yet; they claim that those of us on the right have a monopoly on violent rhetoric. I guess holding our elected officials responsible for adhering to the constitution is considered "violent rhetoric".

34 posted on 01/09/2011 7:53:42 AM PST by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: uptoolate

And the left screams, “What’s so wrong about that?”


35 posted on 01/09/2011 8:00:52 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: FredJake

How is all of this not libel? Sarah should sue some of these liars and smear-factories.


36 posted on 01/09/2011 8:04:34 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: FredJake
Hmmmm let us review exactly who is the violent side:

Youtube video:

Are you paying attention now?

warning some profanity...

37 posted on 01/09/2011 8:07:19 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: FredJake

David Gregory on Meet the Press is already blaming it on the Tea Party and Palin. I couldn’t watch more than to minutes.


38 posted on 01/09/2011 8:13:08 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: American Infidel

Quotes such as these need more and more air time!
Thanks.


39 posted on 01/09/2011 8:16:37 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: GoCards

I agree—and this will demonstrate clearly what Krauthammer, Perriino and Will stand for. I hope we are not disappointed—again—for the 1000th time.


40 posted on 01/09/2011 8:18:48 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: cripplecreek
"We need to start demanding answers as to why the left can’t produce video of Beck, Palin and others calling for violence."

Well you know that they don't come right out and call for violence -- rather, they use rhetoric that is emotionally charged and although veiled, it is clear that they are calling for violence......

(sarcasm)

ps: the only audio anyone could produce of Beck discussing violence is his begging and pleading for people to avoid it at all costs.

41 posted on 01/09/2011 8:19:22 AM PST by wolf24
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To: FredJake

The Left has been seething since November.

This incident happens and all of their pent-up rage explodes all over the ‘net and TV.


42 posted on 01/09/2011 8:36:12 AM PST by radioone (Proud to be an enemy of Obama)
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To: FredJake

I fired off a “note” to the school board in North Carolina..
You may want to do the same..

http://lee.schoolfusion.us/modules/cms/pages.phtml?pageid=116607&sessionid=a05aa0a7752499c64f81c57b99df749c&sessionid=a05aa0a7752499c64f81c57b99df749c


43 posted on 01/09/2011 8:36:46 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: FredJake
Christiane I'mAPoorThinker on This Week said the shooter isn't connected to a Tea Party group, then went on in serious tones about all the various right-wing killers.

Just once I'd like someone to mention extreme left environmental Unabomber Ted Kaczynski.

44 posted on 01/09/2011 10:13:40 AM PST by SupplySider
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