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My dogs ears, need so FReeper advice
Nachum ^ | 1/21/11 | Nachum

Posted on 01/21/2011 2:41:39 PM PST by Nachum

We have a black lab/golden retriever mix. We noticed that there was a smell coming from our dog's ears recently. After inspection, there was a lot of black ear-wax like discharge on the inside of her ear. She is not digging or scratching at her ears, but there is the discharge and smell.

After doing some research, the consensus seems to be that she may be suffering some kind of ear infection. Do the FReepers here have experience with ear issues? The site I linked to generally speaks of a remedy of apple cider vinegar and water in the ear.

After a long week of politicking and Obamanations, why not talk about something important- our pets. :)


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So, advice?
1 posted on 01/21/2011 2:41:43 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Get thee to the vet.


2 posted on 01/21/2011 2:43:29 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Nachum
Think we're gonna need lots of popcorn
 

 
 
for this one.
 
 


3 posted on 01/21/2011 2:43:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Nachum

What’s it taste like?


4 posted on 01/21/2011 2:43:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Nachum

No offense but don’t you think you should get the dog to a vet?


5 posted on 01/21/2011 2:44:44 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Must read...
 

Cleaning ear wax?

6 posted on 01/21/2011 2:45:03 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Nachum

Vet only. if she has something that has caused excoriation and you do vinegar it will burn her, and she may need immediate attention for something, besides the fact that this is her ears, you don’t know what that will do to her hearing


7 posted on 01/21/2011 2:46:01 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Responsibility2nd

Or maybe not.

(One of the hamsters is off today?)


8 posted on 01/21/2011 2:46:03 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Yep. We are going to take her in. Just asking people here their experience, if they have seen this before.


9 posted on 01/21/2011 2:46:24 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Some breeds of dogs, including ours, have a tendency to build up some black material in their ears. It needs to be cleaned every once in a while, and if you can get your dog to relax, they don’t mind it much, and seem to be a lot happier afterwards. There is a solution you can get that helps with the cleaning.


10 posted on 01/21/2011 2:47:03 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Nachum; vetvetdoug

Yes, similar thing with our Pug Jack, but I cannot recall the anti-fungal drops.

VetVetDoug will know.


11 posted on 01/21/2011 2:47:07 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Nachum

Go to the vet.


12 posted on 01/21/2011 2:47:33 PM PST by Mears
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To: cripplecreek

yes do get to the vet, they will make sure its not a parasite or massive infection and can give you drops to help brake up the wax. Get cotton balls or non-woven cotton that you can pinch off and a pair of hemostats to remove the gunk. your vet will help you determine how deep you can go, quite deep actually.


13 posted on 01/21/2011 2:49:02 PM PST by waynesa98
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To: Nachum
Typical of Labs. Vet will give you a cleaning agent and a antifungal.

BTW have them check for foxtails etc while there (which they will want to do anyway). BTW the cleaning ritual will be two or three times a week for the rest of the dogs life.

14 posted on 01/21/2011 2:49:46 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Nachum

I’d go to a reliable vet. It sounds as if the dog needs to have the ears cleaned out, first, and then needs to go on medication for a while, until the infection has been cleared up.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 2:49:51 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wideminded

I have taken a warm damp tissue to clean the outer ear. She doesn’t mind it at all. We will take her to the vet anyway. Bet he’ll say much the same as you recommended. Probably some anti-fungal drops.


16 posted on 01/21/2011 2:49:53 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Our black/lab great dane mutt gets yeast infections in the ears - especially after getting them wet. Black/brown, smelly, etc. My wife dries them off after out in the rain or water, and if bad has some ointment from the vet that she uses. With a rod disk-shaped makeup removal pad. Others have told her homemade treatments - but my wife doesn’t trust those. But I imagine trying a homemade version with an old rag isn’t going to hurt - and if it works, great! (And, isn’t vineager and water an old treatement for, uhm, women’s particulars? Similar thing I imagine in the dog’s ears)


17 posted on 01/21/2011 2:50:06 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Nachum

Likely a yeast infection - black, gookey and smelly. Daily routine until the ears are cleared up: Nolvascan Otic cleansing solution, squirted into ears, leave for a couple of minutes and clean out with a cotton ball. Also: Call your vet for a prescription for Otomax and follow the directions. I’ve got two Goldens with nice clean ears.


18 posted on 01/21/2011 2:50:06 PM PST by Ol' Sox
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To: Nachum
The vet is her friend.

Could have ear mites.

19 posted on 01/21/2011 2:50:08 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Nachum

Just to be clear, you can get a dog groomer to do this, or just do it yourself. It shouldn’t require a vet unless some sort of secondary problem has set it.


20 posted on 01/21/2011 2:50:17 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Nachum

I agree with getting the dog to the Vet...If the dog is in no discomfort as far as you can tell, I would get them to the Vet anyway...The colr and odor of the “buildup” is not as important as it is to find out why there is a buildup of some sort of substance...

It could eventually lead to a breeding ground for all sorts of other parasitic creatures that may eventually cause some discomfort to your pet...

Vets clean ears out all the time...And your dog may or may not like the attention of a good ear cleaning, but the after effects will be well received and you will feel better yourself when you get that taken care of for them...

Don’t wait too long though...

Let us know how it goes...

Good luck...


21 posted on 01/21/2011 2:51:03 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Nachum

Yes. Take your dog to the vet, asap.


22 posted on 01/21/2011 2:51:03 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Nachum
Our dog, Gypsy, got an ear infection last winter that two tubes of expensive antibiotic couldn't cure. We found a cure in Dr. Khalsa's Natural Dog: A Holistic Guide for Healthier Dogs that did the trick in a week.

Use a mixture of 50/50 hydrogen peroxide and warm water. Put the mixture in the ear with a dropper (about a teaspoon), massage the base of the ear to work the liquid into the ear. Let the dog shake his head to dislodge the debris, and clean out the rest with cotton balls. Use this twice a week.

Give your dog a hug from a fellow FReeper.

LSAggie (posting on hubby's account)

23 posted on 01/21/2011 2:52:53 PM PST by osagebowman
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To: Nachum
Our pooch has this problem.

We got some ear cleaner from the vet. You squirt it into the affected ear, and then clean it out with a paper towel.

Cheap and easy.

24 posted on 01/21/2011 2:53:43 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Nachum

You need to get the dog to the vet..


25 posted on 01/21/2011 2:53:50 PM PST by Dog
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To: Nachum

Could be ear mites. Does she shake her head often?

Go to the vet.


26 posted on 01/21/2011 2:53:50 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: Ol' Sox

Exactly what we do, right down to the brand names.


27 posted on 01/21/2011 2:54:40 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Nachum
There could very well be parasites in the ears, as well as the infection, so get the dog to the vet for treatment. Your dog could also have seasonal allergies that cause a reaction, but there would probably be scratching and odor coming from your dog's coat as well.

Please, for the sake of the animal, do not try the home remedies you are finding on the web. Take her to a doctor.

28 posted on 01/21/2011 2:55:22 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Nachum

We had this same problem with our natural eared dobermans. The long ears prevent good air flow to the ear and can allow bacteria or yeasts to grow in the moist environment of the inside of the ear.

You should see a vet on this one. They’ll give you a tube of ointment that will kill the bacteria and/or yeast that is causing the problem. You put a few drops in the ear, massage it in, and repeat everyday for a week or 2.

They also might recommend regular ear cleanings at home, using a product that is made just for that. It is a more watery substance, whereas the ointment is rather like vaseline in consistancy.

Good luck!


29 posted on 01/21/2011 2:56:36 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (President Sarah Louise Palin....Resistance is futile! Prepare to be liberated!)
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To: Nachum

Take her to the vet.
My dog gets ear infections every so often. We ended up buying a larger size of the drops from the vet so we could just use it when one starts.
Good luck, but go to the vet.


30 posted on 01/21/2011 2:57:29 PM PST by ozaukeemom (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like ear mites, go to vet.


31 posted on 01/21/2011 2:57:40 PM PST by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Nachum
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32 posted on 01/21/2011 2:57:52 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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33 posted on 01/21/2011 2:58:28 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Nachum

I had a dobie mix that had an ear infection that led to a blowout of the ear. Very painful for our girl. If I had caught it earlier and taken her to the vet for antibiotics, it probably wouldn’t have happened.

I hate going to the vet too. It costs me more to go to our vet than it costs me to go to our family doc for an exam.

Ears are tricky though, and painful.


34 posted on 01/21/2011 2:58:32 PM PST by OpusatFR
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35 posted on 01/21/2011 2:59:16 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Nachum

http://hubpages.com/hub/Smell-Dogs-Ears


36 posted on 01/21/2011 2:59:28 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: osagebowman
Use a mixture of 50/50 hydrogen peroxide and warm water.

Thanks! That is one of the cures I read about. The forum was sort of split between hydrogen peroxide and apple cider vinegar as being the best home remedies. AND, they said exactly the same thing. The expensive drugs, drops, etc. that were prescribed were largely ineffective and the only thing that worked were the washes with one of those options. I will probably take her into the vet anyway (Monday). As long as we water down the HP or ACV a great deal, it won't irritate but we want to be sure. I will give her a bunch of hugs for you. Thanks.

37 posted on 01/21/2011 2:59:28 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Ear mites...and a trip to the vet is in order.


38 posted on 01/21/2011 2:59:49 PM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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http://www.dog-health-guide.org/yeastinfectionindogear.html - some good information. Other possibilities include ear mites or some other insect activity. It’s unusual that no itching seems to be occurring, but perhaps your dog has a high discomfort tolerance. If it’s a yeast infection, it may require antibiotics (and a vet exam). A bad yeast infection can result in surgery. Golden retrievers around here seemed to be extremely susceptible to ear yeast infections and hot spots.


39 posted on 01/21/2011 3:00:29 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Nachum

Our vet has had us using “ChlorhexiDerm Flush” on our labbie’s ears for many years when they get stinky from too much swimming. It’s inexpensive and easy to use.


40 posted on 01/21/2011 3:00:35 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Nachum

Black earwax usually means ear mites. The “black” is the mites. The Vet needs to clean them.


41 posted on 01/21/2011 3:00:35 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Nachum
Sounds like ear wax mixed with malassezia, a type of yeast that grows in the ear and causes itching.

usually secondary to chronic moisture, like playing with or in water.

Can usually treat with an antifungal, like clotrimazole. However, you should really get a vet to look in there with a scope and be sure there are no foreign objects or debris or food allergies as an underlying problem.

Probably not a good idea to start treating without looking in there first, as some remedies will actually make the problem worse, much worse, like a ruptured drum and a middle or inner ear infection, which you really do not want your dog to have.

42 posted on 01/21/2011 3:01:44 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Doogle

Thanks for the link.

Yep. Bad smell. She doesn’t scratch though. I will be taking her to the vet for sure now. I can see it now. Ear infection. Ear cleanings. Pills drops.


43 posted on 01/21/2011 3:02:49 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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44 posted on 01/21/2011 3:03:16 PM PST by kanawa (Obama - "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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To: Nachum

My Rott/Chow mix Sandy suffered ear infections and yeast infections. Sometimes it got so bad she could barely lift her head. I always took her to the vet and she got the antibiotics and otimax drops. Plus cleaning. Her father also suffered from this. Please take your baby to the vet ASAP. I lost my baby because right after leaving the vet I overlooked something with her and she was gone the next day.
For that I will NEVER forgive myself. They can’t tell you what is wrong. Please don’t wait!.


45 posted on 01/21/2011 3:03:23 PM PST by MarineMom613 (RIP Sandra Sue, my fur baby 12/31/1999 ~ 7/2/2010 - See you on the other side!)
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To: Nachum

My dog (11 yr old lab mix) gets brownish/black stinky stuff in his ears. I gently clean the outer parts of his ears with Q-tips and sometimes dribble a bit of diluted apple cider vinegar in them and let him shake it out outside. My vet has not been concerned about the gunk, so neither am I.

Just be really, REALLY careful not to bend the dog’s ears or squeeze them...they can get hematomas, which are nasty. A hematoma is a massive inflammation of the ear skin flap. Jack (my dog) has had them 3 times and they are expensive and painful to fix. And no, not because I cleaned his ears or put in a bit of vinegar!

Of course, if you’re really concerned, if it gets worse, or think it may be something more serious, see your vet. Could be an ear infection or ear mites. Good luck!


46 posted on 01/21/2011 3:04:03 PM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: muir_redwoods
No offense but don’t you think you should get the dog to a vet?

Vets are way too expensive. Most people are now performing their own minor treatments for common aliments.

47 posted on 01/21/2011 3:08:58 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Nachum
Take your Lab to the Vet. Labs are notorious for ear infections especially if you take them swimming. We had a beloved lab that we ultimately lost due to an ear infection. This was after we almost lost him from encephalitis from an ear infection two years prior to his death. The guy was tough as nails and ruptured his ear drum without being symptomatic.

The eardrum needs to be visualized and deemed intact before you put anything into his ear.

48 posted on 01/21/2011 3:09:26 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Nachum

Ear mites?
My cat had this. Got some RX from vet. Cleared it up.


49 posted on 01/21/2011 3:10:33 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Nachum

My first thought was ear mites, but you should really take the dog to the vet.


50 posted on 01/21/2011 3:13:37 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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