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Scientist: Earth Could Have "New Sun" Within a Year
Pundit Press ^ | 1/22/11 | Aurelius

Posted on 01/22/2011 10:06:34 AM PST by therightliveswithus

People love to hype 2012 as the end of the world. It's BS, but hey, when it gets into the public consciousness, things stick.

Anywho, a scientist named Brad Carter is predicting that the star Betelgeuse is expected to go super-nova very soon. If this happens, the sky that we look at could have two stars in it, even though Betelgeuse is 1,300 light years away. On the bright side, Carter assures us that we won't all die

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; Weird Stuff
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I don't buy it
1 posted on 01/22/2011 10:06:36 AM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: therightliveswithus

The year is young, but I think this is the dumbest thing I’ve heard all year.


2 posted on 01/22/2011 10:07:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: therightliveswithus

Betelgeuse, Betelgeuse, Betelgeuse ...


3 posted on 01/22/2011 10:08:36 AM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: therightliveswithus
Betelgeuse is expected to go super-nova very soon. If this happens, the sky that we look at could have two stars in it, even though Betelgeuse is 1,300 light years away.

Which means it either went supernova 1,300 years ago OR we won't have a 'new sun' until 1,300 years from now.

4 posted on 01/22/2011 10:09:28 AM PST by mnehring
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To: jessduntno
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=384088935931&id=b4b013b4db8a961c115baa594e6b73d9&index=ch1

To show what we are dealing with.

5 posted on 01/22/2011 10:11:30 AM PST by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: therightliveswithus

“If this happens, the sky that we look at could have two stars in it”

Two stars? I thought we could see a few more than that...


6 posted on 01/22/2011 10:11:58 AM PST by linear (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: jessduntno

Dang, you beat me to it.


7 posted on 01/22/2011 10:13:05 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

saw this on a science channel, astronomy show about 6 months ago.

Betelgeuse is in a pre super nova state now for many years...if it blew 1500 years ago, we could be finding out about it any time now....


8 posted on 01/22/2011 10:13:09 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: therightliveswithus

9 posted on 01/22/2011 10:14:01 AM PST by massmike (DADT repeal: the Boy Scouts now have tougher membership requirements than the Army!)
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To: therightliveswithus

I think what he said was it could explode between now and a million tears from now.

Cr@ppy reporting.


10 posted on 01/22/2011 10:14:18 AM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"The year is young, but I think this is the dumbest thing I’ve heard all year."

Why would you think that? Do you not believe Super Nova happen?

11 posted on 01/22/2011 10:14:31 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: massmike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhMYgq-0cGI&feature=player_embedded#!


12 posted on 01/22/2011 10:15:31 AM PST by massmike (DADT repeal: the Boy Scouts now have tougher membership requirements than the Army!)
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To: therightliveswithus
On the bright side, Carter assures us that we won't all die

Ever?

13 posted on 01/22/2011 10:16:12 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: GreenHornet

“On the bright side, Carter assures us that we won’t all die
Ever?”

Some of us...


14 posted on 01/22/2011 10:19:03 AM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: mnehring

If a star goes supernova in the galaxy and no one sees it, does it emit light? I suppose he means, we may receive the light “any day now”. Not high on the list of things I’m going to worry about.


15 posted on 01/22/2011 10:19:13 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: therightliveswithus
Good, cuz this one is freezing my assets.
16 posted on 01/22/2011 10:20:21 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: massmike

THAT is a cool picture!!!


17 posted on 01/22/2011 10:21:53 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: therightliveswithus
...even though Betelgeuse is 1,300 light years away.

What an idiot. If Betelgeuse goes nova tomorrow we won't know it for 1300 years...

18 posted on 01/22/2011 10:23:45 AM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: KoRn
Super nova happen, sure.

Have we ever successfully predicted one, lined up all our telescopes and watched one begin to unfold? No. We haven't. This time might be the first time, but then again, how do we know?

A star's lifecycle takes billions of years. We think we know what will happen in the next 10 or 20? Seriously??

If it does go supernova, will it really appear as a second sun? Or as a bright star? Can you say "hype the story"?

This is just crappy reporting of some guy's opinion about something that might happen. It's right up there with the recent "California superstorm" story about the storm that will last 40 days and deposit 10 feet of water on California. Uhhhhhhhh. Yeah. That could happen. I suppose.

19 posted on 01/22/2011 10:23:46 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: therightliveswithus

Orion would never be the same with his shoulder missing. I can’t get my grandson (6 next month) to stand still long enough to see him. I saw the Old Man in the Mountain only about a year before he fell apart. He’s still on NH license plates, though.


20 posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:56 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

“Dang, you beat me to it....”

You got to get up pretty early in the morning to beat us Beetlejuice fans.


21 posted on 01/22/2011 10:25:03 AM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: therightliveswithus
If this happens, the sky that we look at could have two stars in it, even though Betelgeuse is 1,300 light years away.

Most estimates I've seen have it around 600 LY away.

"When a star goes bang, the first we will observe of it is a rain of tiny particles called nuetrinos.

I have more confidence in someone who can spell "neutrinos" correctly. Would you trust a cardiologist who wanted to talk to you about haert surgery?

I don't know how Mr. Carter knows that the Earth is safe, but I'd like something a little more concrete.

Gamma ray bursts are the killers and they follow the poles of the supernova. Betelgeuse's pole isn't pointing at us.

In the year 1006 there was another supernova, SN 1006 that was visible on earth for two days. It was called a "guest star."

A lot longer than that. The original author was probably confused by the wikipedia entry "First appearing in the constellation of Lupus between April 30 and May 1 of that year," which simply tells the first night it showed up on, not its total duration of visibility. Later in the same article it states "There appear to have been two distinct phases in the early evolution of this supernova. There was first a three-month period at which it was at its brightest; after this period it diminished, then returned for a period of about eighteen months."

As for a "second sun", Betelgeuse's supernova would likely be about half as bright as the full moon. Impressive? Yes, very. But not a second sun.

22 posted on 01/22/2011 10:31:39 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Betelgeuse- Arabic-”The Armpit of the Giant”!


23 posted on 01/22/2011 10:36:04 AM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (Tag line under construction, please mind the gap!!)
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To: therightliveswithus

It’s Bush’s fault.

Womyn and minorities will be hardest hit.


24 posted on 01/22/2011 10:36:08 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: therightliveswithus

There’s no way to pin down when a star will go kablooey, it could be in 5 minutes, it could be thousands of years from now.

Even when it does, I find it hard to take those “second sun” claims seriously.


25 posted on 01/22/2011 10:40:44 AM PST by Ellendra (Profanity is the mark of a conversational cripple.)
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To: therightliveswithus
Carter assures us that we won't all die

Obamacare will take credit for that.

-PJ

26 posted on 01/22/2011 10:42:03 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Fido969
Cr@ppy reporting.

Sensationalized reporting - it grabs readership.

When we were house-hunting in a new town a few years ago I spotted a newspaper headline that blared: "Local Murders Up 100% Last Year." Alarmed, I immediately dropped money into the machine only to learn there had been one murder, 100% more than the previous year when there were none. But the sensational headline sold at least one paper.

27 posted on 01/22/2011 10:42:07 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: therightliveswithus

I would imagine by now, they’re all out of sunblock at the local drug store on Betelgeuse 3.


28 posted on 01/22/2011 10:42:11 AM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: jessduntno
It's show time!


29 posted on 01/22/2011 10:43:56 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: therightliveswithus

BTW, according to Wikipedia, the best current estimate of the distance to Betelgeuse is 643 ± 146 light years. 1300 light years is a very upper bound. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse

It is also fairly young, only about 12 million years old. Massive stars like Betelgeuse, at least 10 million times the sun’s mass, burn very quickly and die in Type II super nova events.


30 posted on 01/22/2011 10:45:41 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: therightliveswithus

I wouldn’t buy anything from someone named Carter. Even if he throws in a rabbit and a top hat.


31 posted on 01/22/2011 10:46:42 AM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Bernard Marx

1/0 = Inf. If there had been one murder in the previous year and two this year, that would be a 100% increase. I do not think my town has ever had a recorded murder. The town next door, similar in demographics, had its last murder over 25 years ago, when some guy was having an affair with a woman in his church’s choir. When she broke it off, her lover killed her husband.


32 posted on 01/22/2011 10:49:48 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: therightliveswithus
If you're lucky you get to ride in a gold meteorite
If you're not, you get a mouth, a mouthful of red Kryptonite
You better move over
Here comes a Super-nova

Kryptonite- - -
Destination moon
If you're in outer space
Don't feel out of place
'cause there are thousands of others like you
Others like you
33 posted on 01/22/2011 10:52:47 AM PST by Allegra
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To: therightliveswithus
"On the bright side, Carter assures us that we won't all die."

I'm hoarding rice just in case.

34 posted on 01/22/2011 10:53:14 AM PST by blam
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I guess you’ll have to take that headline writer to Math Court.


35 posted on 01/22/2011 10:56:16 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: KarlInOhio

It is the Red Giant in Orion. It takes 1300 years for the light to reach Earth. It has already exploded if he is right. Over a thousand years ago.


36 posted on 01/22/2011 10:59:12 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: KarlInOhio
Betelgeuse's pole isn't pointing at us.

No. It was pointing at Winona Ryder. (rimshot)
37 posted on 01/22/2011 11:04:03 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: therightliveswithus

Of course it will have exploded in the past, that is obvious, but irrelevent.


38 posted on 01/22/2011 11:34:06 AM PST by 83Vet4Life
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I wonder why they didn’t shore up the “Old Man in the Mountain” with steel reinforcement or something. It’s sort of like Mt. Rushmore suddenly one day just collapsing. (We had a stone bridge in our hometown that just one day FELL into a pile of rubble in the river; destroyed one of the biggest tourist attractions in the town. They were doing road construction on the road beside it and didn’t to my knowledge shore up the bridge. It had escaped Sherman only to be leveled by neglect.)


39 posted on 01/22/2011 11:41:31 AM PST by Twinkie (LEFTIST FREE SPEECH GOOD. - CONSERVATIVE FREE SPEECH BAD.)
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To: raybbr

Yeah, but if it happened 1299 years ago, how would we know?


40 posted on 01/22/2011 11:44:26 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: therightliveswithus
a scientist named Brad Carter is predicting that the star Betelgeuse is expected to go super-nova very soon.

My condolences to Ford Prefect.

41 posted on 01/22/2011 11:45:45 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: therightliveswithus

They’ve been predicting this since I was in college 30 years ago. When they say “soon,” they mean in the next several million years.


42 posted on 01/22/2011 11:46:36 AM PST by Brilliant
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43 posted on 01/22/2011 12:05:10 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Yeah, but if it happened 1299 years ago, how would we know?

I guess this guy has been around longer than we can imagine. |^)

44 posted on 01/22/2011 12:18:19 PM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: therightliveswithus
The scale of things....

How big is Betelguese?

Interesting explaination of just how big and how small things are in this universe. Takes a second or two to download but then use the sliding bar to zoom in or out.

The Scale of Things

45 posted on 01/22/2011 12:30:17 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: The Comedian

The important thing is, one day, night will become day for several weeks on Earth.

“This is the final hurrah for the star,” says Dr Carter.

Satire is great, when you catch it before you get a chance to make a fool out of yourself.


46 posted on 01/22/2011 12:38:21 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: sjmjax

Cool site, thanx....think I just got the spins looking at it!


47 posted on 01/22/2011 12:40:17 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: Fido969
a million tears from now

OMG that's a long time!

"Leave Betelgeuse alone!"


48 posted on 01/22/2011 12:44:05 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: therightliveswithus

I can’t wait.


49 posted on 01/22/2011 12:56:05 PM PST by JRPerry
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To: therightliveswithus

“On the bright side, Carter assures us that we won’t all die”

So what use is he to Algore? He needs to be assuring us we are all dead unless we empty our wallets and throw the contents in gore’s direction.


50 posted on 01/22/2011 1:12:08 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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