Skip to comments.There’s Something Deeply Wrong with the Birth Certificate Narrative
Posted on 01/24/2011 11:09:07 AM PST by pissant
Something doesnt add up here:
Back in June 2008, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned short form of his Hawaii birth certificate. When people questioned the scanning, a few carefully chosen media types were invited to attest to the underlying long-form documents authenticity, including FactCheck.org:
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as supporting documents to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
FactCheck included pictures of a real document purporting to be a genuine long-form Hawaiian Barack Hussein Obama birth certificate.
Recently, the new Hawaii governor announced that hes now going to make publicly available to all Americans, not just a few media partisans, the original long form birth certificate. One problem: He says that he cant find the darn thing. Fortunately for Abercrombies abortive effort, the New York Times has reminded him of the same law Obama relied on in 2008 to keep his originalbirth certificate out of sight: only the birth child himself can release a Hawaiian birth certificate.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsrealblog.com ...
Yep, considering the tendency of people to flap their jaws and sell out to the highest bidder, a hell of a lot of energy is going in suppressing this thing.
My bet is there’s something on the official BC they don’t want the world to see, but not necessarily the place of birth. Maybe the race of the baby was states as “Caucausian” for example. If you were a white family with a kid that’s half and half in ‘62, which would you put down?
Father: Frank Marshall Davis
The Soetoro adoption was annulled in 1971 when Obama Sr. complained he, the paternal parent, was not properly notified of adoption proceeding.
A Hawaii family ruled the Soetoro adoption was annulled and a new birth certificate was to be created, i.e. the COLB shown by FactCheck.org.
So, when someone announces they’ve seen the original vital records for Barack Hussein Obama II, they are referring the the COLB created by court order in 1971.
P.S. Dear Obots ... yes, I have proof. And, no, you can’t see it.
..or Malcolm X.
The law doesn't care about biology, the law cares about legal paperwork.
Whoever’s name is on the BC for 0bama as his father is his “legal” father. No DNA relationship required.
Just ask a guy who found out that “his” children that he has been paying child support have no DNA relationship to him - the law cares not, he is still “legally” the father of those children.
Which source has the best lie?
for some, its locked up in a private vault
for others, it cant be located
for others, they have a copy and they have been able to find and verify what Abercrombie last week could not find
for others, he was born in Africa,
for others, in the Commonwealth , it is kept in a ledger in Great Britain
Why cant the one just produce it....
I would think that MI6 and / or the Mossad has the answer.
or “the omen” Damian—lol.. with his SS# showing him 139 years old, id say hes an illegal alien with stolen idenity
If I commit fraud, I’m not going to be able to play these stupid games to hide from prosecution. The FBI would have my records in a few hours. They’d have a probe up my posterior before that, with crystal clear pictures if they wanted to.
We’ve got a guy with his finger on the nuclear trigger, who is selling out this nation over and over again. The reaction, why we can’t demand proof. That would be unfair.
The death of reason...
That would be true if the Soetoro adoption took place in Hawaii. Why would an Indonesian national adopt a child in a U.S. court?
If they touched it, they committed a crime. Hawaii says you must have a tangible interest. Even the abercommie cant get the certificate to “touch” it.
Never heard that theory before.
I suspect it’s the parentage that is the embarassment, although I would not be surprised if it was the birth place. Either way, Obama is not giving the straight goods. Amazing how a relatively young, “brilliant” man was able to get all those degrees without many people who would have been his classmates having any recollection of him.
The damn dog ate it, OK? Maybe it fell behind a filing cabinet? It was in his pocket and got washed? Did he look on the hall table? Here's what we'll do to satify you right wing fanatics. We'll just make a new one from the facts on that COLB that's on the internet. It will be an official Hawaii document.
And anyway, a 1960's Hawaii Birth certificate is nowhere near as reliable as a 1960's Honolulu Dog License, or Hawaii Car Title.
There's one other thing here: It's Aunt Zeituni. Her health is shaky and this kind of inquiry is very upsetting to her. So stop. OK?
“If you were a white family with a kid thats half and half in 62, which would you put down?”
Hey! You’re back!
What was that? About two months?
Good to see you again.
That may be true for child support payments. It is not true, however, for citizenship claims. There must be a blood relationship in order to claim U.S. citizenship. See the U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs manual for details.
Ok? So...these guys the ‘official’ documenter of eligibility?
I mean who would say, ‘Hey you know that guy we just put in charge of the CIA/NSA/FBI? Yeah, you know that guy? Well, FactCheck.org said he is vetted. So we gave him the job.’
Am I in some alternate universe? Or something. It just seems that all of ‘reality’ has suddenly gone crazy.
The Obama campaign didn’t release the COLB image. DailyKos released it.
I’ve been around. I’ve just been so busy. I’ve posted here and there on the eligbility threads just to keep ‘em honest. ;p
if he is using a fraud SS#, that means he stole someones idenity- ever think of him being someone completely differ. than he say he is.. maybe he is using a deceased name—mabe check death records—lol just thinking outloud..the dude is hiding something for sure
The claim is not verified by the U.S. as to their being an actual DNA relationship.
A DNA relationship is not necessary for one to be the “legal father”.
If Barrack 0bama Sr. is listed on 0bama’s BC; he is 0bama’s “legal father”.
No birth certificate...no run for prez.
Wait a minute ...his daddy wasn’t even an American! How the hell is he in office and how can he even be on a ballot for the highest office in the world?!
It’s in a file at the Rose Law Firm.
>>If you were a white family with a kid thats half and half in 62, which would you put down?<<
Wasn’t he born in 61?
Even the date is confusing.
Latino...as with all things corrupt.
I know, he isn’t from Italy.
Sure it makes a difference. He’ll be exposed as the sordid liar that he is.
They lived in Hawaii for a spell, did they not?
My own Research at the Livermore Laboratories of Meta-Proctology (Livermore Falls, Maine, not that scam outfit in California) have proven beyond a shadow of scientific doubt that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. hasn't a drop of Italian blood.*
It's French. Our POTUS, is, By the Grace of God
My research has been pierre-reviewed.
* That isn't to say he hasn't ingested some due to undercooked veal at Luigi's Place. Copies of my work are available on DVD that can be played on Amiga computers. Send $16,000 EU and a SASE to me at this address.
10% of people have the paternal DNA of someone other than their legal “father”.
Are they sordid liars?
Most are unaware of the situation, as the relevant act was some 9 months before they were born.
So while it may make his mother look like a sordid liar (and a slut), it wouldn’t do much to him; and it certainly wouldn’t be the grounds for any legal action.
Otherwise there are millions of birth certificates out there than need amending!
I agree with you. “The something embarrassing on the Birth Certificate” ruse is what the Obama legal team floated some time back. It’s BULLSH!T.
There is no long form, hospital generated Birth Certificate on file in Hawaii.
Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii.....most likely to the sound of witch doctor rattles in a Kenyan hut or some hippie commune in Washington state.
I really doubt that they do DNA to determine parentage.
USCIS, not the referenced manual determines eligibililty. The USCIS allows the naturalization of adopted children. Also, your referenced manual, for what it matters, states that an adopted child is defined as a child of the parent.
Maybe it is with the papers that hitlery found on the desk in the WH.
Uh, Obama claimed to have had an old copy of his birth certificate in his own book. If it says anyone other than Hussein Sr. is the father, then he’ll be shown as the sordid liar that he is.
Actually, Gibbs said in a presser that "we" put it on the internet, meaning him and Obamao.
Just an FYI.
You misspelled Barrack 0bama Sr.
He spelled his name Barak Hussein Obama.
By the way, whoever counterfeit Obama’s COLB did the same. They misspelled the name of Obama’s (alleged) father.
On the COLB, the (alleged) father’s name is spelled:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
The number of flaws in that document is staggering.
Why did it appear first on Kos? (Ron, I’m just curious. Obviously you know more about all this than I do. I just wonder why if Obama released it, Kos posted it first.)
“If you were a white family with a kid thats half and half in 62, which would you put down?”
I have an actual real life story for this. My stupid ass ex-sisterinlaw had a Half white/black kid. She told each and everyone of her many ex husbands and boyfriends that the kid was Puerto Rican.
Man, I was glad to get out of that family.
“A Hawaii family ruled the Soetoro adoption was annulled”
A family can do that? what family? That made it legal somehow?
Hey, now you guys are making fun of me. I was just trying to be helpful!
Why must you people always be so suspicious? After all, the BC could have been: left in a briefcase on the train? Burned up in a Haleakala eruption? Was reviewing them on the porch and they blew away? Could it be acid paper that dissolved? Shredded by accident for a ticker-tape parade?
Honest, I am just trying to get to the bottom of this issue once and for all.
I can only tell you what Gibbs said in that particular presser, I heard it my self.
It struck me at the time because he admitted that they had posted on the Internet what many of us to believe is a fraudulent document.
Like I posted, just an FYI so you are aware that he said it.
yeah, i mean if he has a fraud SS#, and no BC in hawaii- he is using someones elses idenity. his real name could be joe blow, and the rest fabricated. you know.. thats what it sounds like anyway
People already know all the fields on a 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate and the race of the baby isn't one of them. The races of the parents are listed. I'm not sure if any state has ever listed the race of the baby. It seems like that information would not really be needed if you knew the races of the parents.
The Obama campaign sent the COLB to the Daily Kos as an email attachment on June 12, 2008. Kos said in the comments that the copy originated with the Obama campaign.
Same day, the Obama campaign also sent an e-mail to PolitiFact with a copy of the senator’s “birth certificate” as an attachment.
On June 16th, 2008 FactCheck.org released its article on the “birth certificate.” The article states they received the “birth certificate” from the Obama campaign.
Plus there’s the video of Gibbs saying about the COLB, “I put it on the Internet.”
This is why I feel so close to our POTUS.
You see "Barak" means something rather like "Lucky," in Arabic. "Barak," was the name of Muhammed's horse, for whom Barak Hussein Obama, father and son, were apparently named.
When I was a ute, I had a splendid quarter horse named Lucky, who greatly resembled our POTUS when viewed from astern. However, unlike our POTUS, he was well behaved and a very useful animal.
This 'reflection' about a birth certificate in Ayres' Dreams from My Father is just Barry and Ayers trying to give him some legitimacy for future office aspirations....whether it be Mayor of Chicago or as it turned out Illinois State Senate--->U.S. Senate--->URSURPER in Chief.
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