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America Has No Voice At FOX: Refuse To Air Bachmann's Speech Tonight (CNN will)
Jan 25, 2011 | ERE

Posted on 01/25/2011 11:16:57 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall

We have to be honest folks, Fox news has been drifting further and further left over the past several years.

The natural instinct of most conservatives is to defend the channel that the far left attacks on a daily basis.

A similar occurrence came during the eight years of the Bush administration, where the left was viscous, conservatives defended as we witnessed a president advance a very liberal agenda.

My point is that the formula that who the left hates and goes after is not necessarily who they oppose (As in Palin) but a tactic to redefine what right wing news is, leaving a conservatives isolated, as out of the mainstream while in reality making up the majority.

Now at FOX we have people who claim the center and hear both sides of the issues in a sort of consensus building liberal manner.

There is no right or left in the truth, so a motto like" fair and balanced "seems more along the lines of the Hegelian dialectic (Marx) than a show determined to get down to the facts.

We are told to praise someone like Juan Williams, who has stated many times that the Tea Party is racist and that conservatives are extreme.

If you don't think the NPR comments were a set up to have conservatives embrace him at FOX then I think you need to open your eyes.

Beck is probably the only palatable show.

Hannity has become unwatchable; from time to time he has on a conservative like Bachmann, Palin or Demint but for the most part he has ex Bush elites who despise the Tea Party and mock the most conservative candidates while giving Obama a pass on his radical transformation of the country.

When Sean brings up the whole Newt conservative revolution, I want to hurl on myself.

Is Sean this naive, all you have to do is look up his voting record for the last 30 years?

So here we have Michelle Bachmann giving a speech tonight post state of the union and FOX does not have the common decency to air what most of its viewers want to see; an American patriot, not an inside the beltway hack, reminding us that we do have a voice in Washington.

The left has effectively made us think that Bush was a conservative and that Fox news reports the truth both are flat out lies.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bachmann; bhosotu; foxnews; obama; sotu; teaparty
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1 posted on 01/25/2011 11:16:58 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: USSR Didnt Fall
fox... and the repubic party are in league with the left... fox is in the enemy camp.

LLS

2 posted on 01/25/2011 11:23:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

I agree and I’m sick of the Palin bashing guests on Hannity the only show I watch anymore is Glen Beck. I think Hannity and O’Reilly and Fox have become arrogant.


3 posted on 01/25/2011 11:23:53 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

We’ll see if Sean has the guts to at least have Michele on his radio show so she can explain the alternative response, and why it is necessary. I’m interested to see if Paul Ryan will deliver a quivering-wimp speech similar to Bobby Jindal’s from two years ago. Bob


4 posted on 01/25/2011 11:24:20 AM PST by alstewartfan ("Only in the darkest places will she feel at home tonight." from Mixed Blessing by Al Stewart)
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To: LibLieSlayer

ALL of TV is cr*p and pro-Obama. Full on brainwashing in HD. The majority of idiots are addicted to TV. It keeps Obama popular and in power. Once he gets the Internet kill switch then it is over.


5 posted on 01/25/2011 11:25:14 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: FromLori

There’s this thing called the internet (for now)....her message will get out!


6 posted on 01/25/2011 11:25:48 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

I’m guessing it is as simple as Fox figures more people will want to watch their talking heads dissect the SOTU and the Republican response than watch a third speech which will have much of the same substance as the Republican response. It’s all about the Benjamins.


7 posted on 01/25/2011 11:25:50 AM PST by NC28203
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

Bachmann is GOP. They don’t need to air a 3rd address from a Tea Party self appointee. It’s bad for ratings and redundant.

If CNN does it, it’s because they know the GOP rebuttal isn’t going to offer them the chance to ridicule as much as Bachmann’s speech will.


8 posted on 01/25/2011 11:26:21 AM PST by harmonium
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To: USSR Didnt Fall
CNN and MSNBC will air Bachmann's speech because they think:

(1) She will make a fool of herself,

(2) She will give a sound bite that can be used against Sarah Palin or other Republicans,

(3) She will make it look like the Republicans are divided.

I suspect Bachmann will fool them in all three cases.

9 posted on 01/25/2011 11:26:38 AM PST by eCSMaster (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

“seems more along the lines of the Hegelian dialectic (Marx)”

This is an exceptionally confusing parethetical formulation.


10 posted on 01/25/2011 11:28:04 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

The mistake was thinking that Fox was ever “conservative” to start with. Their formula is for viewers, not partisans. Always has been.

Thing is, that was, and still is, good for conservatives because the other nets don’t give a shi’ite. They ARE trolling for partisans and pushing an agenda.


11 posted on 01/25/2011 11:28:24 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

FOX News is Roger Ailes. They are a part of the establishment elite so they have a certain amount of disdain for tea party Republicans.


12 posted on 01/25/2011 11:28:30 AM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

The last I heard, her speech was only going to shown on the internet. Is CNN really going to air it?


13 posted on 01/25/2011 11:28:31 AM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: eCSMaster

Probably, but they’ll insist all three reasons you mentioned are true, anyway. Truth didn’t stop them in other recent and past instances.


14 posted on 01/25/2011 11:29:08 AM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: Frantzie
If some of us didn't watch and report... you will have no idea when the SS is coming to take you to the Gulag. They will come for all of us... knowledge is our only hope and defense.

LLS

15 posted on 01/25/2011 11:29:22 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

I was floored by the news that Fox won’t carry Michelle Bachman’s response to the SOTU! If there was ever a clear sign that Fox has turned its back on the Teaparty, this has to be it.

I, for one, am going to e-mail Fox and let them know exactly how I feel about this. They at least deserve to know how their glaring omission is being received by many of their viewers.


16 posted on 01/25/2011 11:29:25 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Sparky1776

Exactly, if there’s any substance to it, it’ll be viral tomorrow.


17 posted on 01/25/2011 11:29:57 AM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

>>>We have to be honest folks, Fox news has been drifting further and further left over the past several years.

They were never “Right” to begin with.


18 posted on 01/25/2011 11:29:58 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

Well, it does show the Tea Party is authentic..

But we can still turn to Fox to learn the important things like who’ll be elected King and Queen of the SOTU Prom!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG! OMG!


19 posted on 01/25/2011 11:30:01 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

Excuse me, but what time is Bachmann going to give her reply? Same time as Ryan, or after Ryan?


20 posted on 01/25/2011 11:30:12 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Tublecane

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htm


21 posted on 01/25/2011 11:30:34 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: theDentist

after


22 posted on 01/25/2011 11:31:09 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: FromLori

About the only FOX show I watch is Greta and that depends on the guest she is interviewing. As for Glenn Beck, I don’t necessarily disagree with him but I can’t stand to watch him. His mannerisms are irritating as hell.


23 posted on 01/25/2011 11:31:36 AM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

There’s opening for a new conservative news channel

Free Republic TV News ???

Who’s with me - lets get some investors and do it


24 posted on 01/25/2011 11:32:43 AM PST by Mr. K (Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall
There is no right or left in the truth, so a motto like" fair and balanced "seems more along the lines of the Hegelian dialectic (Marx) than a show determined to get down to the facts.

You nailed it.

Now, Fox is leagues better than its competition, but I also get tired of the schtick, where they let idiots scream at one another and call it "fair and balanced".

And I tired long ago of O'Reilly's routine, where he presents himself as the sane alternative to two straw man arguments.

I would not call Ryan an "inside the beltway hack", in fact I like him a great deal. But I also like Bachmann a great deal and am more interested in what she has to say than either Ryan or Obama. Palin is almost certain to comment, and when she does I'll want to hear that too.

Fox (and CNN and the rest) are conditioning us to get our news from news collection sites like FR, and from places like you-tube. They may not realize they are undercutting themselvs by not showing Bachmann when she is precisely who we want to hear from. I'm glad GOP is promoting Ryan, but Bachmann is becoming a force in her own right.

25 posted on 01/25/2011 11:33:44 AM PST by marron
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To: theDentist

After.


26 posted on 01/25/2011 11:34:23 AM PST by SMM48
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To: harmonium
If CNN does it, it’s because they know the GOP rebuttal isn’t going to offer them the chance to ridicule as much as Bachmann’s speech will.

Are you worried about what CNN's take is on Bachmann's speech?

27 posted on 01/25/2011 11:35:29 AM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Well you miss the point then. The left attacks not only reveal who they fear as in Palin but in many cases redefine right wing as liberal- lite, in doing so isolate the majority as extreme.(subversion)


28 posted on 01/25/2011 11:36:48 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

I know who Hegel is, thanks. Just pointing out that referencing his system then sticking Marx’s name in there without explanation makes no sense.


29 posted on 01/25/2011 11:37:22 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

CNN needs the ratings.


30 posted on 01/25/2011 11:37:30 AM PST by smokingfrog (BORN free - taxed to DEATH)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

Can’t watch Sean-—Greta, I can watch...never would have thought it!


31 posted on 01/25/2011 11:38:47 AM PST by lonestar
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To: Tublecane

Obviously you didn’t know which is why I sent you the context of that line.


32 posted on 01/25/2011 11:39:51 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: Tublecane

“I know who Hegel is, thanks. Just pointing out that referencing his system then sticking Marx’s name in there without explanation makes no sense.”

It would be as if I were attempting a brief aside about Aristotle’s relation to Plato in a sentence otherwise having nothing to do with Aristotle by formulating it as, “Plato’s doctrine of the forms (Aristotle)”. no one who didn’t already know about Aristotle and Plato’s philosophies and the relation between the two would have any idea what that meant.


33 posted on 01/25/2011 11:39:59 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

FOX needs a serious boycott from the right, a little message that will remind them of how they got to where they are.


34 posted on 01/25/2011 11:40:20 AM PST by pallis
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

This is Bachman’s hour. If she hits a home run in her rebuttal (which I have a hard time believing will happen) she will add a great deal of credibility to the idea of Bachman 2012. If her rebuttal is unremarkable or poor then - as in the case of Jindal - her 2012 run is over before it starts. It’s a big gamble, lets see how it works out.


35 posted on 01/25/2011 11:40:48 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

“Obviously you didn’t know which is why I sent you the context of that line.”

Obviously you don’t know anything about reading comprehension, as it was clearly the “formulation” to which I objected, not the content. I said so in the original post.


36 posted on 01/25/2011 11:41:25 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

If it’s on CNN no one will see it.


37 posted on 01/25/2011 11:42:54 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Sparky1776

YEP....my first thought was....oh, I’ll watch it online....it’ll go viral.


38 posted on 01/25/2011 11:43:06 AM PST by goodnesswins (Socialism is organized stupidity. 2nd thought...I think DEMOCRATS are Organized Stupidity.)
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To: marron

Well I get concerned when the likes of Krauthammer and others praise Ryan.
Take a look at Michelle’s post today on Ryan’s voting debacles, this guy is not someone I look up to thats for sure.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/25/overdose-of-sotu-hype-on-the-left-and-right-plus-talk-like-a-republican-day/


39 posted on 01/25/2011 11:43:29 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: Sparky1776

Good thing we have to watch this though

Internet ‘kill switch’ bill will return

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html


40 posted on 01/25/2011 11:43:51 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

CNN may beat FNC in the ratings for the first time in a decade during that time slot.


41 posted on 01/25/2011 11:44:13 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: DGHoodini

LOL


42 posted on 01/25/2011 11:45:47 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

Yep, they’re marching to the tune of the old GOP. They will do all they can to get either Mitt or Jeb the 2012 nomination, just like they gave us John McOld.

So, guess we’ll all be switching to CNN to watch Bachman.


43 posted on 01/25/2011 11:45:50 AM PST by Reagan69 (I went to a shooting-victims' memorial service and all I got was a lousy T-shirt !)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall; SMM48

Thanks. They should broadcast it as well...


44 posted on 01/25/2011 11:50:04 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Yet_Again

“If her rebuttal is unremarkable or poor then - as in the case of Jindal - her 2012 run is over before it starts”

That’s an exaggeration. If Jindal’s out of the big picture, it’s because of Jindal as a whole. I don’t care how bad his reception at the time was, neither in the beltway nor the blogosphere. People forget, and regular people never cared, anyway.

Bill Clinton did one of those rebuttal things some year and in my opinion failed. By the time he won the Democratic nomination he came from the back of the pack, after surviving a series of scandals and surprising absolutely everyone. Someone or other after Jindal’s fizzle tried to present Clinton’s long-ago rebuttal as a star-making turn. But that was revisionist nonsense. Nobody cared then, nobody cared afterwards. He became the Bill Clinton we know in the ‘92 primary, not before.


45 posted on 01/25/2011 11:51:10 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

thanks


46 posted on 01/25/2011 11:51:53 AM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: Tublecane

VOTE WITH YOUR REMOTE !!!!


47 posted on 01/25/2011 11:51:55 AM PST by Reagan69 (I went to a shooting-victims' memorial service and all I got was a lousy T-shirt !)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

They’re just afraid of being called a “right-wing” network.
CNN doesn’t have that problem.

Cowards


48 posted on 01/25/2011 11:52:24 AM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Mr. K
There’s opening for a new conservative news channel Free Republic TV News ???

I agree with you. I don't watch TV news anymore, not even Fox. I watch Beck (I pre-record it) and thats it. I get my news primarily from the internet and primarily from FR and the news sites the stories come from.

I realize to do it well is a big job. Its one thing for me to write a little rant capping on someone else's article. Its another to do original reporting; I note that Beck has a rather large crew doing the research for his show, and you can tell the difference between what he does and what others do who don't have the staff for research.

But FR has the entire world, and thousands of people digging out stories and commenting on them. So in effect you have the combined talents of thousands. Weird how it works, but it works.

I suspect someone here at FR with a little talent and some streaming audio or video could leverage this up to another level. I'm not sure what it would take technically but its got to be a lot less than a traditional broadcaster.

49 posted on 01/25/2011 11:53:18 AM PST by marron
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bump


50 posted on 01/25/2011 11:54:21 AM PST by MinuteGal
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