Skip to comments.Abercrombie Admits There Are No Obama Birth Records In Hawaii
Posted on 01/26/2011 10:21:06 AM PST by iontheball
Neil Abercrombie admitted to close friend and reporter Mike Evans - there is no records of Obama's birth in Hawaii.
“The argument of many birthers goes like this: the documents that would establish Obama’s natural born citizenship do not exist; therefore Obama is not eligible for the presidency; therefore honor and right and the Constitution require that we take steps to remove him from the presidency.
This, as I have said, is terribly premature. It is premature for the simple reason that most people have not kept up with this issue and are not aware of the facts. They are not aware that the documents that would establish Obama’s natural born status do not exist. Therefore what must be done at this stage is not to aim at the activist, disruptive, insanely divisive goal of removing a sitting president, but rather to inform and persuade people of the FACTS that have come to light.
And here is what has come to light. As a result of Gov. Abercrombie’s lurching behavior and statements, we now know with virtually absolute certainty that Obama’s birth certificate (the long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate) does not exist in the state of Hawaii records. How do we know this? We know it because in December Abercrombie noisily announced his intention of finding and releasing Obama’s birth certificate. Then he immediately went silent on the issue for several weeks. Then, at the end of a newspaper interview on political matters, a reporter asked him how the search for the birth certificate was going, and the governor mentioned some “recording” he had found “written down” in the state records. He didn’t mention the birth certificate. If he had found the birth certificate, he would have said so. Then a day or two later the governor announced that he was terminating his search for the birth certificate because Obama had not given his consent for the birth certificate to be released. Obviously that last announcement—that the birth certificate could not be released—contradicted the governor’s inadvertent confession to the reporter that the birth certificate could not be found.
If the governor of Hawaii, with all the apparatus of the state government at his fingertips, cannot find Obama’s birth certificate in the records of the state of which he is the governor, then we can take it as an established FACT that the birth certificate does not exist. Or, if it ever did exist, that it has been removed and hidden. Either way, there is no official record showing the truth about Obama’s birth.
This is the new information that most people are not aware of, and that we birthers need to spread. What we need to spread is not a call for Obama to be removed from office, a call which immediately results in birthers being dismissed as mere enemies of Obama, but the FACT that Obama’s birth certificate does not exist in the files of the state of Hawaii, that there is no official record of the time and place of Obama’s birth.
The ascertainment of that fact leads to certain conclusions:
1. The people who have been doubting the official story all along, the rational birthers (I do not speak here of the irrational birthers), have been right.
2. The people who have been mocking and dismissing the birthers have been wrong.
3. Barack Obama has been misstating and concealing the truth of the circumstances of his birth.
4. Everyone who has contemptuously dismissed all questions about Obama’s birth have been, willingly or not, Obama’s accessories in this concealment.
We don’t need to go to the next step, that Obama is therefore ineligible for the presidency and should be removed. Shifting the discussion to those extremely controversial assertions will distract attention from the facts which have been established. Let other people draw those conclusions. All we need to do is get people to see the FACT that contrary to what the entire media and official world have been telling us, there is no official record of Obama’s birth in Hawaii. Once that fact sinks into the public consciousness, then the discussion will be ready to move on to the next stage. But to try to move to the next stage when most people have not absorbed that fact, is premature and counterproductive.”
This interview is stunning. You can hear the shock in the voices of the two DJs.
I thought the former governor, Republican Lisa Lingle, had seen and vouched for the existence of the birth certificate.
If the actual birth certificate can’t be obtained, this has got to present a rather prickly situation for 0bama and the dems, even if they’re not admitting it yet.
How can that COLB be considered valid if there’s no base document from which to draw the information?
HONOLULU NEWS CONFERENCE THURSDAY: Governor Linda Lingle lobs bombshell in Obama Birther Nation battle
By andy martin ny
Obama investigator Andy Martin charges Hawaii officials with fraud; Martin says Dr. Chiyome Fukino and Governor Linda Lingle deliberately deceived the American people during the 2008 election.
Every time Andy Martin comes to Honolulu to investigate or litigate, birther bombshells explode. Martin, called the King of the Birthers by Barack Obamas media mujahidden, says Governor Linda Lingles confession Sunday in response to his threat to file a lawsuit last Friday, reported on KITV-TV News, has created a new bombshell that is going to reverberate through the 2010 and 2012 elections.
Honolulu TV station report triggers a major new Obama birth scandal
Obama truth warrior Andy Martin says KITV-TV News story on Friday, April 30th that he was preparing to sue Governor Linda Lingle forced her hand and made her confess to suborning election fraud in October, 2008
Factually Correct, Not Politically Correct
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
ATTENTION DAYBOOK/ASSIGNMENT EDITORS
ANNOUNCEMENT OF HONOLULU NEWS CONFERENCE THURSDAY, May 6TH
HONOLULU TV STATION REPORT TRIGGERS CONFESSION BY LINGLE IN BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE SCANDAL
PRESSURE BY KING OF THE BIRTHERS ANDY MARTIN FORCES GOVERNOR LINGLE TO DISCLOSE HER SECRET ROLE TRYING TO RIG THE 2008 ELECTION IN OBAMAS FAVOR
MARTIN SAYS HIS EFFORTS TO FORCE THE RELEASE OF OBAMAS HAWAII ARCHIVES HAVE BARACK OBAMA AND LINDA LINGLE SCARED
MARTIN SAYS THE DISCLOSURE OF LINGLES ROLE IN THE 2008 OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE CAPER IS TAKING ON THE DRAMATIC FLAIR OF A HAWAII FIVE-O EPISODE
(HONOLULU)(May 6, 2010) Andy Martin is rapidly becoming the new Alii nui of Honolulu media and politics. Martin, who has relentlessly pursued the public release of Barack Obamas original, typewritten 1961 birth certificate, will hold a Honolulu news conference today, May 6th, to explain how his news conference on April 30th triggered the disclosure two days later by Governor Linda Lingle that she was behind 2008 reports that Barack Obamas birth certificate was legitimate.
Martin plans to accuse both Lingle and Hawaii Department of Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino of deliberately deceiving the American people. Martin will hold his news conference outside the Governors office on the 5th floor of the Hawaii State Capitol.
It seems that every time I come to Honolulu and start investigating and litigating, some surprising new development takes place, Martin says. When I came to Honolulu in 2008, within hours Barack Obama suspended his campaign and followed me to Hawaii.
Was Obama possibly trying to stop me from interviewing his grandmother?
After a judge set a hearing on the release of Obamas birth certificate, in response to a lawsuit I had filed, Linda Lingle now admits that she secretly got Dr. Chiyome Fukino to falsely claim Fukino had acted alone in vouching for Obamas hidden birth certificate on the eve of the 2008 election.
Hawaii officials are making a farce out of their stewardship of Obamas original birth certificate, Martin charges. Last Friday I announced I would sue Lingle over her role in the Birther Nation controversy. My threat to sue was prominently reported by Hawaii media including MSNBC and the original source, the ABC affiliate in Honolulu:
Two days later, Lingle went on a friendly talk show and disclosed that it was Lingle, not Fukino, who had initiated a review of Obamas birth certificate in 2008.
Fukino had lied when she said No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed What was asking Fukino to go into the vault and check the certificate, if not special attention?
Does Lingle routinely check birth certificates?
Why did Lingle conceal her role in 2008, and is only now confessing that in 2008 that she put Fukino up to hide Lingles role on the eve of the presidential election? Cover-up? Fraud? Its all here.
Lingle has now thrown Fukino under the bus by exposing Fukino as a liar:
Why is Lingle in 2010 once again vouching for Obama, this time openly? She is now confirming Obamas alleged place of birth, while refusing to release any supporting documentation to back up her claims.
What are her motives? Does Obama Have something on Lingle?
Why is she covering for him?
It is clear that Obama & Co. have given conflicting explanations about where Obama was born and that only release of the actual document itself will end speculation:
Yesterday I started writing a favorable column on Lingle. I believe she is an extraordinary woman, for whom I have the highest respect. But she has been as ham-handed as a Chicago alderman with her behind-the-scenes manipulation of Fukino.
Lingle may have realized we were closing in on her Hawaii Five-0-style and she decided to confess before we exposed her.
The drama of her confessing 1-1/2 years later that it was Lingle, not Fukino, who initiated the birth certificate review and clandestinely directed Fukino to issue a statement supporting Obama.
>He’s in the Whitehouse and nobody is going to get him out.<
What about that saying that we are the home of the brave? Where are the brave in the House (of representatives)?
Are we to believe the word of a RINO?
I believe this is what is called a “blue dress” moment.
Besides, it wasn't his choice to be born in Nairobi...
Knowing the current state of US politics, probably everyone.
COLB#s aren’t valid anyway: they’re drawn from an over-the-counter piece of office-work that relies solely on the assertion of a putative relative. They are meaningless for B/C purposes.
Depends on what your definition of a RINO is...
This would put Nancy Pelosi on the spot! She produced documents certifying Obama as being eligible according to the Constitution to run for President!
50 copies of the document to the States!
How did she certify him with no BC?
Hasn’t our PINO stated for all the world to hear that his father was from Kenya - so on that basis alone, Barry is not a “natural born citizen” as required. What Barry will need to do now is prove that Obama Sr. is not the babydaddy so that his whole presidency is not declared null and void. Chaos is the name of the game and that’s what Soetoro wants for America.
In a subsequent interview, Mike Evans makes it clear he has not spoken to Neil Abercrombie since the CSPAN interview they did together immediately after the Obama inauguration. Mike Evans was basing his "no birth certificate" comment on a story he read elsewhere. He has no insider info. Evans is disputing his own words.
If this is true then the original story is very deceptive. Where did Mike Evans say that he hasn't spoken to him since the inauguration?
Barry is a fraud?....who knew?
That has to be a backtrack. That is not at all the context Evans was speaking in. It was pretty clear he was not reading an article aloud, because he was asking the Gov. Questions and getting answers. I think this is spin control. Mike went off the reservation and is trying to CYA.
The impression I got was that Evans had no idea what he was getting himself into. He’s over his head on the subject matter...he didn't know who Stanley Dunham was.
At first he tried to deny he ever said he spoke to Neil, but the host kept playing the recording, and Evans finally had to admit that his statement was misleading. He repeatedly emphasized that he has not spoken to Abercrombie since the Obama inauguration.
yes he admitted he hadnt spoked diretly to abercrumb but that he spoke to abercrumbs office. Where is the denial from Abercrumbie, how long before that comes out? Lying is poervasive in our nation now.
If you're running the democrat party and you can see where the eligibility issue is going, you're probably trying to come up with a way to distance yourself from obama and somehow save the party.
If, before the fan gets dirty, you can get out in front of the BC issue in such a way as to show that you were trying to do the right thing but were stopped by the WH, you almost look like a whistle-blower.
And, if you then officially learn that you were fooled by obama himself, along with everyone else...well, might be a way to make the best of a very bad situation, even save yourself and the party. While saving the Constitution and country. The game is afoot.
Er... ok... so if at first he was standing by his first original statement.... then why???
It would make MORE sense to say it right off the bat.... Why would Evans burn his friendship with Neil.... make a false statement, then back track and say the conversation didn’t happen?
This makes no sense.
It is going to a feeding frenzy. There is blood in the water now and the sharks will be striking at and eating anything that comes close to them, including their own kind.
Evans started the interview denying ever saying he spoke to Neil. The host played the recording of Evans saying "Neil said". After a couple more attempts by Evans, insisting he never said it...he finally had to acknowledge he said it, but that in truth, all he did was leave a message with office staff, and hasn't heard back from Neil or anyone else.
I personally think Evans is a Hollywood reporter who isn't used to having this level of scrutiny and is having to backtrack because, if he didn't in fact talk to Neil, it would eventually come out anyway.
I'm undecided as to what role Abercrombie is playing in this little drama.
Evans is now back tracking, claiming he never spoke to Abercrombie.
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