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25 OF THE BIGGEST PROPAGANDA LIES FROM THE LEFT
EMAIL | noguff

Posted on 01/28/2011 11:01:28 AM PST by mainestategop

The following was emailed to me from a friend on youtube named noguff He is an excellent activist promoting libertarianism and always has something excellent to say. He emailed for example this...

25 OF THE BIGGEST PROPAGANDA LIES FROM THE LEFT

1. OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were rich racist White men only interested in their own wealth & status, and were non-religious Liberals.

2. THE CONSTITUTION is outdated and has nothing to do with a modern society. It was made to be constantly changed to serve the changing needs of society. Politicians no longer need to abide by it because we should make our own laws for our own society. Government can do whatever it wants so long as it makes the law or policy official. The Constitution guarantees the right to free healthcare, homosexual marriage, abortion, and the separation of Church and State. And it says nothing about a Presidential candidate having to show proof of where he was born.

3. THE GOVERNMENT is oppressive, tyrannical, bent on warfare & oppression, and run by special interests -- if a Republican is President. The government is benevolent, righteous, and only interested in making your life better -- if a Democrat is President.

4. THE SECOND AMENDMENT has been misinterpreted and only pertains to a state-run militia (i.e. the National Guard), not personal firearms ownership & use. Guns are bad and evil and should be banned. Gun owners are violent, and are usually racist Whites who are uneducated "red state" rednecks. If gun laws are relaxed or repealed the USA will become like the Old West, and millions of children will die as a result.

5. OUR ECONOMIC SYSTEM is broken. Capitalism is wrong & evil, was designed to oppress the poor and minorities, and doesn't work. The Constitution allows for a Socialist economy and state, and it is the best system for an advanced society, only uneducated morons who worship money are against Socialism. The redistribution of wealth is justified under our Constitution, and by Christian beliefs. Jobs are a direct result of the functions of government.

6. COMMUNISM no longer exists, and anyone who say differently is living in the 1950s and is a narrow-minded, hate-filled, bigoted "McCarthy-ite." There aren't any Communists subverting our nation from inside our outside our nation. There are no "Marxists." Anyone who calls someone a "Marxist" is a narrow-minded, hate-filled, lying, bigoted "McCarthy-ite." Marxism is good for the country because it's all about helping the poor and the Middle Class against money-worshipping rich White racists.

7. HOMOSEXUALS are anywhere from 10%-20% of the population, and are not afforded the same rights under law as everyone else. The rights they are asking for are the same ones the rest of us have, but which they are denied, and is a civil rights issue. Anyone who speaks ill of homosexuals or homosexuality is guilty of being a hate-filled bigoted homophobe, anyone who treats homosexuals improperly is guilty of a civil rights violation, and anyone who harms a homosexual is guilty of a "hate crime."

8. "HATE CRIMES" (by Whites only) are an especially heinous offense and deserve special penalties. "Hate speech" (by Whites only, which can be defined in any way desirable) is not free speech, and should be a prosecutable offense. "Right-wing" talk radio is "hate speech."

9. WE POLLUTE our world at a greater rate than ever before, and our world will not be able to sustain Human life in roughly one or two generations. Man-made Global Warming is an immediate threat to our planet's ability to sustain life, making it also the No.1 national security threat. It is just another manifestation of the oppression of the poor and minorities by Whites, the West, and the rich.

10. THE EARTH cannot sustain our current Human population, and we (Whites) must take drastic measures to reduce our numbers. (White) Couples who marry (not that it's a good idea, unless you're homosexuals) shouldn't have children. If you do, you should only have one. Two children is really pushing it. Any (White) couple with more than two children should be shunned for their selfish, excessive, and brazen contribution to Global Warming. (White heterosexual) Couples should get voluntary sterlization to avoid spreading Human-kind any further. (White) Women shoulnd't have children anyway because it's a form of oppression by (White) men, and it's potentially dangerous to their health.

11. LIFE BEGINS at birth. A baby is not a Human Being until it reaches roughly two years old and gained self-awareness. Those against abortion are crazy, racist, misogynist, violent Nazis who only want to take women's rights away. Every woman has the right to an abortion at any point, up to and including natural child birth, upon request, for whatever reason she provides.

12. THE PRESS is unbiased. They are smarter than everyone else and must not be questioned, they are concerned only with the public's interests, they are a higher class of people, and they must never be prosecuted for anything they do related to their profession. The Constitution guarantees that.

13. OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM is broken, Latinos coming here illegally only want to be American citizens and make a better life for themselves. Any immigration policiy which restricts or encumbers immigrants is racist by design. The huge wave of uneducated, unskilled, destitute Latino workers who come here illegally will only benefit our nation. The 14th Amendment means anyone born on U.S. soil is automatically a citizen, no other interpretation is valid. And illegal aliens who have children born here and are U.S. citizens must not be deported because that would break up the families.

14. OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS are woefully underfunded and the teachers are grossly underpaid. Our schools must teach children morals and the values of social justice, multiculturalism, sexual diversity, and the evils of gender bias & capitalism. They should also be shown why Barack Obama is the best President. Parents should have no say in school curriculum or faculty, unless they are trying to further those goals. Textbooks must be cleansed of age-old racism and American nationalist propaganda because, after all, America isn't the entire world and has been an oppressive force by rich White men to further their own greed for money & power.

15. MODERATE MUSLIMS are on our side in the War on Terror, and the War on Terror is a racist endeavor by American right-wing Evangelical Christians. We should compromise with the terrorists, as with all our other enemies, because we must show them they can trust us, and because America is also wrong about a lot of what we do. Conservatives want to wage a racist holy war against Muslims in the pursuit of their oil reserves, and because Conservatives are blood-thirsty, genocidal, selfish, uneducated murderers.

16. VOTER REGISTRATION requirements are racist and against poor people. It isn't free and openly available to everyone. And elections where the weather is poor should be done over again because bad weather disproportionately affects the poor and minorities.

17. BARACK OBAMA is our nation's Messiah. Only racists are against him and his policies. And questioning his eligibility to hold the office means you're a hateful, uneducated racist redneck who can't stand that a Black man is President.

18. CHRISTIANITY is the root of all the wars and evils of the past & present. Beliefs in gods, magic (aka "miracles"), and other such fairy tales are outdated beliefs reserved only for the ignorant. There is no place for religion in an advanced society.

19. CONSERVATIVES want to pollute the environment and don't care about anything but money. They are ignorant, Fascists, warmongers, racists, are against science and scientific truth, and want an uneducated & uninformed populace. They should be silenced and not allowed to vote because they can't be relied upon to vote for the correct candidate.

20. EVERYONE FROM THE SOUTH, the "red states," and rural areas are racist, uneducated, stupid, and ignorant, and therefore couldn't possibly have any valid opinion or plan to offer to any debate of public or scientific interest. All ignorant and uneducated people should not be allowed to vote unless they have completed a government sanctioned re-education program.

21. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY is only for rich Whites. If a Republican wins an election, its automatically a case of election fraud and voter intimidation, and means that the People want the Democrats to swing further to the Left. If a Democrat wins an election, it's automatically a fair & just election, and what the People really wanted.

22. THE WEALTHY only want to oppress the working class, and do so through the implementation of various techniques akin to slavery, such as money, property ownership, and the suppression of free speech. Food, shelter, clothing, utilities (including computers & internet service), transportation, higher education, and medical care should be free through government services, otherwise there is oppression. And all corporations should be owned by the government.

23. GEORGE W. BUSH was never legitimately elected President due to intimidation of minorities & the elderly, voter fraud, and ballot fixing especially by his brother Jeb Bush, then Governor of Florida, and by an unconstitutional act by the Supreme Court, who were all bought-and-paid-for by George H.W. Bush so his son could be President. George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Karl Rove are war criminals and war profiteers through the illegal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and should be prosecuted & imprisoned. But Colin Powell is not, since he denounced them and endorsed Barack Obama.

24. SARAH PALIN is stupid, incompetent, racist, against scientific truth, a book-burner, and a dangerous radical fundamentalist Evangelical Christian bent on violence and hatred, who believes Man and dinosaurs walked the Earth at the same time and thought Africa was a country instead of a continent. She has never travelled, is against women & freedom of choice, she quit the office of Governor because she couldn't handle the job, was guilty of ethics violations, and her son Trig is actually Bristol's son through incest with her own father. She wants to bring back slavery, get rid of the First Amendment, force women into back alley abortions, take the teaching of evolution out of our schools and replace it with the Bible, make Evangelical Christianity American's official religion, lead a genocidal war against Muslims & Blacks, and bring about a Police State.

25. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS were the worst in history. Richard Nixon was simply a crook and only wanted to make war. Gerald Ford was stupid. Ronald Reagan was stupid, feeble-minded, physically unable to do his job, only wanted to make war & the rich richer, and didn't win the Cold War (Gorbachev did). George H.W. Bush was stupid and only wanted to make war to make his friends rich. George W. Bush was stupid, didn't win either election for President (what the SCOTUS did in 2000 was illegal, and Katherine Harris, Jeb Bush, and Karl Rove committed voter fraud and falsified election results) and only wanted to make war to make his friends rich and commit genocide against Muslims in the name of Christian fundamentalism, and is a racist. And all our Democrat Presidents were the smartest, best educated, most open-minded & thoughtful, most compassionate, and greatest Presidents this nation ever had.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: 1984; brownshirts; communism; hypocrisy; liberalfascism; liberals; lies; obama; obamunism; propaganda; redmenace; socialism

1 posted on 01/28/2011 11:01:35 AM PST by mainestategop
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To: mainestategop

Good post.


2 posted on 01/28/2011 11:07:38 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: mainestategop

A good one is that freedom of speech only applies to obscenity and perverts and does not apply to religious or political speech.


3 posted on 01/28/2011 11:07:54 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: mainestategop

Thanks, a very fun read.


4 posted on 01/28/2011 11:20:29 AM PST by Jvette
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To: mainestategop
Thought I'd reply to just the first one.

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were rich

True. Most of them were rich by the standards of the time.

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were ... racist

Absolutely, by today's standards. However, they did not write that racism into the founding documents of the country they established, except in peripheral ways.

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were... White men

Yup.

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were ... only interested in their own wealth & status

Nope. They had an opportunity to build their own dominance into the system and they turned away from it. All pledged, and many lost or spent, their fortunes in the cause of freedom.

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were ... non-religious

This is a tough one. Most had an attitude towards religion that doesn't fit well into today's "religious right" vs. "secularist" categories. Not many were "Bible-thumpers," but then probably also none were pure atheists. Strong public expression of religiosity was considered inappropriate for gentlemen at the time. Many were deists or theists.

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were ... Liberals.

You bet. But in the sense of the term as used at the time, which is nearly synomymous with today's mainstream American conservatism.

5 posted on 01/28/2011 11:23:26 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Strong public expression of religiosity was considered inappropriate for gentlemen at the time.

Source? Or did you just make that up?

6 posted on 01/28/2011 11:30:02 AM PST by Steve1789 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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To: mainestategop

Propaganda lie from the Left #26: The Left is brilliant and knows what’s best for you.


7 posted on 01/28/2011 11:45:21 AM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: mainestategop

Propaganda Lie from the Left #27:

George W. Bush is a retard.
Bush is from Texas
All Texans are retards.

A common view in Minnestoopid.

How’s that global warming working out for you, Minnestoopid?


8 posted on 01/28/2011 12:04:16 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: Steve0113

Sorry for the long link. This is something I’ve read about for a long time, but it’s surprisingly difficult to find a specific reference. See page 5.

The issue was more one of manners than anything else. Most of the Founders, or at least the more prominent ones, were quite secretive about their religious attitudes, to the point where scholars have had to delve into their personal letters for information.

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:dL4-CkDRaPQJ:www.gymnasiumbreda.nl/userfiles/appendixc18.doc+18th+century+religion+gentlemen+attitudes+%5C&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgRUXVr2un-HncOmGAmi5lcmlsAAZg6J3ZpjT9K1oaZGawrUpOk5A1zTfWtH8LeJ7AKoYrXmuai0b-vrea4f8mUw0KwhYuGAqyS_u65pSavdElY1mglv8Y2Sf24Fymt4esrVbve&sig=AHIEtbS9hR1V38qqPLGAWh6kwU-38E2vOw


9 posted on 01/28/2011 12:08:34 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: mainestategop

Propaganda Lie from the Left #28:
9-11 was a sinister plot by the evil triumvirat of Bush, Cheney, and Rove.


10 posted on 01/28/2011 12:09:02 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: Steve0113

One big reason it’s hard to find decent information on this topic is because both “sides” to the issue are dishonest.

The religious right wants to portray the Founders as the 700 Club on steroids and the “bright” atheists wants to claim them as undercover atheists.

So it’s just tough to find information where the author is trying to lay out the facts rather than argue a case.


11 posted on 01/28/2011 12:23:18 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Steve0113

Found a neat site about the religious beliefs of the Founders.

Of the 8 prominent Founders covered in detail, including the five presidents, most were either clearly or probably deists. John Adams was definitely a Unitarian. Only one, Sam Adams, was without question a believer in the Trinity, the primary criterion I’ve seen tossed around on this site for being a “real” Christian.

http://www.earlyamericanhistory.net/founding_fathers.htm

Of course, “the Founders” is a much larger group than this, and if you have a non-polemical reference that lays out similar information on this larger group, I’d be glad to see it.


12 posted on 01/28/2011 12:36:10 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: mainestategop

I didn;t see this one; maybe I didn’t read carefully enough.

“Liberals care about the poor and the powerless, and want to help them. Conservatives are only interested in power and money and oppressing people of color.”


13 posted on 01/28/2011 12:46:07 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: Sherman Logan

My responses to yours...

First, let me thank you very much for reading & responding. And thanks to mainestategop for posting.

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were rich

“True. Most of them were rich by the standards of the time.”
—And they put all of that on the line, along with their lives. When I wrote “rich” it was according to the way Liberals feel about wealth, which equates to greed and selfishness (except for rich Liberals, of course). Many of these men lost their fortunes because of the revolution. Take, for example, John Adams, who left his profitable law practice to serve in the Conventions. Yes, he owned land, but ended up having to work his own land at an advanced age. Also, Benedict Arnold, who lost everything because of the revolution before he turned on our country. Or how about Jefferson, I think, who died in massive debt where his estate was in danger of forecolsure for many years. They were mostly successful men, a few were rich.
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OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were ... racist

“Absolutely, by today’s standards. However, they did not write that racism into the founding documents of the country they established, except in peripheral ways.”
—If that was the case the phrase “all Men are created equal” would never have been written down and agreed upon by them. Most of the Founders were abolitionists.
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OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were... White men

“Yup.”
-Most were, not all. Please check out this transcript:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,593727,00.html
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OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were ... only interested in their own wealth & status

“Nope. They had an opportunity to build their own dominance into the system and they turned away from it. All pledged, and many lost or spent, their fortunes in the cause of freedom.”
—More points for my “rich” argument.
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OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were ... non-religious

“This is a tough one. Most had an attitude towards religion that doesn’t fit well into today’s “religious right” vs. “secularist” categories. Not many were “Bible-thumpers,” but then probably also none were pure atheists. Strong public expression of religiosity was considered inappropriate for gentlemen at the time. Many were deists or theists.”
—I’m sorry to say you’ve fallen for a lot of the propaganda. The “many were Deists” is a prime example. So did I when I was a student and the years later while I was a Liberal. Then I started thinking for myself and found information myself. And for your “Bible-thumpers” reference, that’s what people say who don’t like religious people. I’d hate to think you felt the same way. At the suggestion of the Founders, the first book published by the U.S. Congress was a copy of the Bible to be used by schoolchildren. Please check out this page:
http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html
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OUR FOUNDING FATHERS were ... Liberals.

“You bet. But in the sense of the term as used at the time, which is nearly synomymous with today’s mainstream American conservatism.”
—When compared to a Monarchy, anyone and everyone who desires freedom from such could be considered a “Liberal.” Your’re right with your last point, because most of what the Founders believed aligns with the beliefs of today’s Conservatives.
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-NG

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14 posted on 02/20/2011 1:56:12 PM PST by NoGuff (.)
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