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Strunk v Paterson (Obama): Judge has opined BHO not Natural Born
BirtherReport.com ^ | January 18, 2011 | Chris Strunk

Posted on 01/30/2011 2:30:08 PM PST by The Comedian

Full headline:

Strunk v Paterson (Obama): First time in the USA since 1824; Judge has opined on what Natural Born citizen is; Concludes Obama is not a NBC.

Via Chris Strunk; The first time anywhere in the USA since 1824, that any Judge has opined on what Natural Born citizen is and concluding that BHO Jr. is not NBC.

This affidavit will be notarized tomorrow and duly served by two days mail upon Justice Schmidt and the State in regards to the appearance on a personal and confidential basis with the intent that Plaintiffs understanding of the record of the hearing be entered into the court record enabling further action by Plaintiff when the Order shown as Exhibit C is entered and forwarded by the State to Plaintiff.

That I am producing a duplicate for Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. so that she may forward it to the SCOTUS in her action presently there. -snip- UPDATE: New comment by Chris Strunk here.

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: barry; birth; birther; certifigate; fraud; ineligible; kriskobach; missouri; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obummer; soetoro; usurper
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This is hugh.

Go to the original site for a chronicle of what happened in the court, and to see the affidavit.


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

1 posted on 01/30/2011 2:30:16 PM PST by The Comedian
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To: The Comedian

bump


2 posted on 01/30/2011 2:33:55 PM PST by opentalk
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To: pissant; ExTexasRedhead; Sparko; trlambsr; True Republican Patriot; 3IDVET; Lumper20; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 01/30/2011 2:34:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: The Comedian

‘Stanley’ Anne liked her some chocolate


4 posted on 01/30/2011 2:35:04 PM PST by Mr. K (Empty, Stupid Happy Talk is NOT 'Reaganesque'!)
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To: The Comedian
I am producing a duplicate for Dr. Orly Taitz Esq.

If this were serious nobody would have involved a clown.

5 posted on 01/30/2011 2:35:23 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: LucyT; pissant; butterdezillion; Hotlanta Mike; 2ndDivisionVet; RobinMasters; Red Steel; ...
This-might-be-important ping.

"Usual Weirdos" ping.

Erratic volume ping list tracking stuff that's just weird, or is of interest to the usual bunch of weirdos (especially SunkenCiv).

FReepmail me if you want on or off
The Comedian's "Usual Weirdos" ping list...


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

6 posted on 01/30/2011 2:40:17 PM PST by The Comedian (It's 3am all over the planet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
0bambi takes time out from National Security meeting on Egypt to flip coin to decide if he should release his long form BC:

Heads.....don't release it

Tails.....0bambi UNDER THE BUS.

7 posted on 01/30/2011 2:41:28 PM PST by spokeshave (WTF....the only thing 0bambi's investments will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy.)
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To: The Comedian

>This is hugh.<

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No it ain’t, and it’s not huge either. Too many politicians would be hurt and end up in jail if they stopped supporting Obama’s non-eligibility.

Just imagine Pelosi and others behind iron bars. Wouldn’t it be a kick in the ass?


8 posted on 01/30/2011 2:43:33 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: humblegunner

If this were serious nobody would have involved a clown.

I didnt see anyone ping you...


9 posted on 01/30/2011 2:45:57 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: humblegunner

“I am producing a duplicate for Dr. Orly Taitz Esq.”


If this were serious nobody would have involved a clown.
________

Uh oh — they’re doomed.... Seriously? I haven’t heard a word about this in 2 weeks? No it’s being notarized tomorrow — and it will take TWO days by mail to get to — whomever it’s being sent to?? Really?!


10 posted on 01/30/2011 2:46:09 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: The Comedian; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33

11 posted on 01/30/2011 2:49:20 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: The Comedian
link

HI is playing games on new law to open Obama/Soetoro records

This effort must be for show-only, because it sounds like they hope to "craft something" that won't make 'it really legal' when/if Hawaii claims the bogus record is true. Note: Hawaii vital records regulations state that authentic 'certified copies' shall bear the "raised seal of the issuing office" not the raised "state seal."

....By the way, why is State Registrar Alvin Onaka apparently unwilling to certify a copy of Obama's "vital records" for the "general public?"

12 posted on 01/30/2011 2:50:01 PM PST by opentalk
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To: The Comedian

Thanks for the PING!!!


13 posted on 01/30/2011 2:50:21 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Mr. K

were grandma, and grandpa,
and little barry obama,
spared that same dark rod.
we’d have to ask the mama:
stanley ann


14 posted on 01/30/2011 2:51:08 PM PST by stickywillie
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To: humblegunner

The only clowns are those who support the illegitimate clown in office.


15 posted on 01/30/2011 3:05:07 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: The Comedian; 2ndDivisionVet
Strunk v Paterson (Obama): Judge has opined BHO not Natural Born

Personally, I'll go two steps further.

I'm not sure the Wee Wee is either natural or born.

16 posted on 01/30/2011 3:08:19 PM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: taxesareforever

And Orly Taitz is just the powerful figure to bring down Obama.

Please.

It’s like Daffy Duck playing Halo.


17 posted on 01/30/2011 3:13:57 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Zakeet

Personally, I’ll go two steps further.

I’m not sure the Wee Wee is either natural or born.


Maybe he is Indonesian born?

More Proof Obama Ain’t Black

http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?p=12968


18 posted on 01/30/2011 3:28:07 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: 353FMG
Just imagine Pelosi and others behind iron bars. Wouldn’t it be a kick in the ass?

I consider pelosi to be a very high flight risk. On top of all this I'm surprised she didn't file the 100K of airplane perks (food and drinks) as income. There are enough IRS publications in regards to travel expenses that she cannot feign ignorance of the reporting requirements.
19 posted on 01/30/2011 3:34:02 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: The Comedian

I read the affidavit. Where in it (line and par.) does it say that the judged concluded BHO was not natural born?


20 posted on 01/30/2011 3:37:14 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: spokeshave

“Heads I win. Tails you lose.” Or is that “loose?” Anyway, it’s mute and irrevalunt!.


21 posted on 01/30/2011 3:38:59 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: humblegunner

Every American citizen has the right to demand confirmation of a president’s citizenship. That includes Orly. She is not sitting back and just letting it go like many of you are and only putting forth criticism of her for it. You ought to be ashamed but I certainly doubt whether you are.


22 posted on 01/30/2011 3:47:14 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: taxesareforever

Yeah.
You & Orly keep praying at the roaches.

Others of us will focus upon spraying them with insecticide.


23 posted on 01/30/2011 3:55:52 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Libloather

That is the bottom line.


24 posted on 01/30/2011 4:04:31 PM PST by jersey117
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To: rolling_stone
I didnt see anyone ping you...

Ha ha ha!

25 posted on 01/30/2011 4:26:17 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: The Comedian

Really Big! An entire Political Party LIED about their Candidate’s Eligibility! I fany of Us lie to a Federal Authority, we get 7 years in a Federal Prison! What about Obama, Axelrod, Pelosi, Hoyer, Frank, Reid, Kerry and the rest of the band of Communist Supporters and American Traitors? Do they go Free to continue to destroy America?


26 posted on 01/30/2011 4:36:27 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: The Comedian

I wouldn’t get to excited. Dr. Taitz is involved.


27 posted on 01/30/2011 4:37:34 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: True Republican Patriot

All right I am probably going to get flamed here but in my research on the birther issue it appears to me as long as he was born in the united states he is a US Citizen. The case that set this precedent was US vs Wong Kim Ark (1898)which dealt with a chinese couple who lived in california and had a son born there. They went back to China and when the son came back to the US he was denied entry for not being a US Citizen. The case went to the Supreme Court and in a 6-2 decision the court ruled the 14th amendment means that all persons born on US soil are considered natural born citizens. Here is an excerpt from the case;

“A child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States, by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution”

You can find the whole case on line and read it yourself. The decision is very long. And from every thing I have seen this decision has never been reversed and has actually been used as precedent in other cases. So if Obummer was born in Hawaii, no matter who his parents are, he is eligible for the presdincy. What I find funny is the two dissenting judges in this case pointed this possibility out. That someone could be born here and have both parents be loyal to another country but there child would be an American citizen. If I am missing something and some later case overruled this let me know.


28 posted on 01/30/2011 4:57:38 PM PST by armordog99
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for the ping! Prayers up!


29 posted on 01/30/2011 5:02:43 PM PST by thecodont
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To: The Comedian
"The motion for leave having come on to be heard, and the Court having heard plaintiff in support thereof, and the Attorney General's Office in opposition thereto, NOW, it is hereby ORDERED, that the motion is denied in entirety."

Yep, sure sounds like the judge is in awe of the plaintiff's argument to me. </sarcasm>

30 posted on 01/30/2011 5:05:07 PM PST by K-Stater
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To: armordog99

God, we are chasing our tails here.

How many times, thousands upon thousands have people posted here that there is a difference between being a citizen of the UNITED STATES BY BIRTH, AND A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN MEANING WITH AMERICAN PARENTS.

You can be a citizen but not natural born.

Obama we believe may indeed be a citizen, but we do not think he is natural born.

I guess this will all get sorted out, if he runs again?


31 posted on 01/30/2011 5:11:13 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: armordog99
Where have you been? Playing Nintendo? He MUST be born on American soil, which he hasn't proven. AND both of his parents MUST be American citizens for Obama to be a "Natural Born Citizen". We really do not need a BC to realize that OBAMA WAS NEVER ELIGIBLE!
32 posted on 01/30/2011 5:12:10 PM PST by chopperman
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To: nikos1121

If you read the decision the ruling talks about the history of the term natural born citizen and cites British common law. The court decided that when the 14th amendment speaks of citizen it means natural born citizen.

I am not a lawyer, but unless this case was ever overturned then anyone born on american soil is considered a natural born citizen, no matter who there parents where.
According to this case Bruce Lee could have run for president.

I do not like it anymore than anyone else, but the Supreme Court is tasked with interpreting the law.

I am still looking into if you are not born in America but one of your parents are American. I would assume from this ruling you would not be eligible but then how was McCain eligible?


33 posted on 01/30/2011 5:19:48 PM PST by armordog99
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To: armordog99

....it appears to me as long as he was born in the united states he is a US Citizen.....

So where is his proof of birth in the US? Gov Abercrombie from Hawaii can’t find it....


34 posted on 01/30/2011 5:21:34 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: armordog99

...I am not a lawyer..

yawn, keep reading, there are dozens of papers/articles on this one subject on both sides of the fence. Remember the same lawyer can usually argue both sides of a case depending on who is paying im.


35 posted on 01/30/2011 5:24:37 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: rolling_stone

You are right on that one. If he was not born in the US I am not sure. McCain was born in Panama and both his parents were US Citizens. However, he was eligible to run for president. Still researching why he was eligible.

Have you read US vs Wong Kim Ark? Perhaps I am misinterpreting the decision, but I don’t think so. Having someone else read the decision would be helpful.


36 posted on 01/30/2011 5:27:08 PM PST by armordog99
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To: armordog99

There have been amendments to this, and indeed some have stated here that the law at the time of Obama’s birth stated that both parents are citizens. The father was not a citizen, and there is some question because of the mother’s age at the time of his birth, not having citizenship.

We can argue this all day long, but I know one thing, just being born on this soil, when you’re parents are from Cuba does not convey natural born citizenship to you.

At the very least, there is question as to the man’s eligibility to run for office.

No one wishes to touch this whole issue.

We’re all nuts here for discussing. O’Reilly says, he’s seen the birth certificate, so we all need to stfu...about it.

Personally, I’m tired of it all.

We have finally arrived at Obama’s Jimmy Carter moment. He is clearly doing the same thing Carter did, pressuring Mubarik to step down.

A trusted ally, like the Shah, is going to get the axe here. Monday our citizens leave the country.

This is a powder keg....

I don’t care about this guy residency anymore.... It took two years for the rest of the world to figure out that Obama is weak, and will do nothing in the face of any confrontation.


37 posted on 01/30/2011 5:29:32 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: The Comedian; Jim Robinson; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; ...
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Strunk v Paterson (Obama): Judge has opined BHO not Natural Born

Thanks, The Comedian.

[SP are here, sitting on their fat a$$, drawing welfare checks while criticizing 0rly for actually using her own time, energy, and money to expose an usurper in the WH. She isn't perfect, but she has helped bring 0bama's lies to World attention. No one asked me, but imo, SP's are traitors to this Country.]

38 posted on 01/30/2011 5:35:34 PM PST by LucyT
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To: rolling_stone
I am sure there is. However the Supreme Court is the only court invested with the power to interpret the law. So any decision they make is the law of the land, whether we like it or not.

What I find very interesting is that in the dissenting opinion they foresaw the possibility of someone being born in the US to parents who are not citizens would be eligible for the presidency.

There are exceptions, based on English common law, to that though. Children of diplomats, clergy(from foreign countries on a mission to the US), and children born as part of a foreign army fighting on US Soil.

I do not like this interpretation of the 14th Amendment. But the only way to change it would be to get another case concerning this issue and have them overrule this decision, or base a constitutional amendment changing the citizenship rules.

39 posted on 01/30/2011 5:35:34 PM PST by armordog99
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To: nikos1121
According to this decision it does. Please read the decision and the dissenting decision. There have been no amendments to the constitution changing the 14th amendment. And this decision has been cited as precedent as recently as 1982.

All I am saying is that, unless I am completely reading this decision wrong, that it doesn't matter who your parents are. As long as you are born on US Soil(and do not fall under those exceptions I posted earlier) you are considered a natural born citizen.

40 posted on 01/30/2011 5:44:13 PM PST by armordog99
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To: armordog99

I have read dozens of cases, andcame to the conclusion that what I think doesn’t amount to a hill of beans its all up to SCOTUS and now that there are two more libs on it(whose jobs are at stake) it may reach a different decision than it would without them.


41 posted on 01/30/2011 5:44:13 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: The Comedian

Nobody knows how to order a court reporter?


42 posted on 01/30/2011 5:49:25 PM PST by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: armordog99

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-maybe-citizen-of-united-states.html


43 posted on 01/30/2011 5:49:34 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: The Comedian

Please add me to your ping list! Thanks “muchly”!!!!!


44 posted on 01/30/2011 5:52:08 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: armordog99

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2275574/posts


45 posted on 01/30/2011 5:52:18 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: armordog99

do you know the difference between an immigrated alien(LAPR) and a non-immigrant alien, and which was Obama’s father? Which was Wong Kim Ark’s parents?


46 posted on 01/30/2011 5:58:22 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: armordog99

Is there case law that says children of illegal aliens born in the US are citizens or is that just “policy”

If illegal aliens or lawfully immigrated aliens or non-immigrant aliens leave the US are they still subject to its laws and jurisdiction?

Can a US citizen be prosecuted for sex with a minor in a foreign country even if it is not against the law in that country? Can an immigrated, non-immigrated or illegal alien who leaves the US to such a country be prosecuted under US law for same?


47 posted on 01/30/2011 6:19:09 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: humblegunner
If this were serious nobody would have involved a clown.

Oh, come on Humm, you know you like Orly. Hee.

48 posted on 01/30/2011 6:24:57 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: LucyT
What is an SP?

A man with honor would promptly prove with all the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and eligible to be president.

Obama is dishonorable. ( And..Maybe even a traitor or a foreign enemy out of uniform).

Those citizens who defend Obama are also dishonorable. They are despicable.

49 posted on 01/30/2011 6:27:59 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: The Comedian; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ...

Thanks The Comedian.


50 posted on 01/30/2011 6:48:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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