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Yep, Obama was Wrong on Egypt.
ConservativeAmerican.org ^ | 2/1/11 | Peter Andrew

Posted on 02/01/2011 11:44:14 AM PST by Peter Andrew Conservative

Standing with the dictator ally instead of freedom-seeking citizens was the wrong course for Obama. Fox News says Mubarak will not seek re-election, a huge victory for those protesting in the streets.

We asked earlier if Obama was really in a Pickle, sort of a darned if he does, darned if he doesn't kind of situation. We argued he was not and that he should have supported protesters. We were right.

Foxy Blondes News says Mubarak will not seek reelection.

Protesters quickly turned on Americans when they learned President Obama was pulling an Iran on them and telling them to be peaceful and sit down.

Obama's weak response may have cost us the friendship of whomever takes over Egypt now. And, we have no way of knowing if the "right" people are taking over! We need freedom-loving, democracy seekers in charge... not Iran-style Islamist Radicals!


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: egypt; mubarak; obama; policy

1 posted on 02/01/2011 11:44:17 AM PST by Peter Andrew Conservative
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

Backing the dictator is what we do...until we don’t back him anymore, of course.


2 posted on 02/01/2011 11:45:48 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Obama threw Mubarak under the bus.

Will Bibi be the next world leader to be thrown under Obama’s bus?


3 posted on 02/01/2011 11:50:40 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

Given his record in foreign affairs—this means something else I think in the Obama administration than it did in the Clinton administration—it’s not so surprising that he made another stupid mistake.


4 posted on 02/01/2011 11:52:48 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative
Wait a minute.

Obama turned on Mubarak immediately!

The smart move would have been to do NOTHING. Quietly backing Mubarak with food aid, which is what these riots were about. Instead, The Mombasa Moonbeam jumped in bed with the rioters. This will not lead to more democracy in Egypt. The jerk threw gasoline on a fundamentalist Muslim fire.

Mubarak falls and it will lead to a tyrannical Sharia Muslim Brotherhood government whose ideology is that of the Taliban. This is nothing more or less than a repeat of Jimmy Carter cutting the Shah loose and letting the Islamic fundamentalists take over an allied nation.

Obama has just begun the beginning of the de-Westernization of Egypt. What is the fool trying to do, recreate the Ottoman Empire?

5 posted on 02/01/2011 11:53:56 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America might survive Obama. It cannot survive those who vote for him)
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To: Ev Reeman
Obamster has thrown Bibi under the bus 3 times already. Israel just won't put up with Obamster’s BS.
6 posted on 02/01/2011 11:54:57 AM PST by hflynn
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative
btw, by promising not to run for re-election, Mubarak may be able to calm this thing down and keep Egypt out of the hands of the mullahs.

This maybe gives Obama an out. He screwed the pooch, but just maybe he won't get burned here if we can weather the transition to a non-Mubarak and non-Muslim government. chances? O, slim to almost none.

7 posted on 02/01/2011 11:57:30 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America might survive Obama. It cannot survive those who vote for him)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

Wrong. Standing by a dictator-ally who had safeguarded peace along the Egypt/Israel border and presided over a relatively stable moderate muslim country for 30 years instead of the radical Muslim Brotherhood was the right course.


8 posted on 02/01/2011 11:59:26 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

For yet another headline that deserves a “well, duh!”!

Wouldn’t it be far easier to make a list of things Obama is right on or has been)?

Let me begin - feel free to add to the list:

1. _____________ uh....hmmm.... I’m trying to think of something...

Ok, maybe someone else can start this list.


9 posted on 02/01/2011 12:01:35 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: TheBattman

The following is a list of Obama’s positive accomplishments:


10 posted on 02/01/2011 12:04:07 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: Kenny Bunk
Obama believes that we are just interfering with the Middle East affairs strictly for Oil. He must also think that if he severs that link, it will force us off of our addiction to Oil in order to implement his “Clean energy” agenda.

Of course there are countless reasons for why MaObama wants us out of there, one is to purposfully lower our economic standards. Few people also understand Obama’s impression of Islamn is because it is a direct reflection of his relationship he had with his Father, which also drives his support for the MB and Islam.

But it is his support and admiration for the MB and Islam that causes him to get the USA out of the region completely, seeing our presence there as a violation of their sovereignty. He also sees our presence there as why they hate us so much. (Which is odd because the knows the Koran quite well and understands his own contradiction.)

11 posted on 02/01/2011 12:14:11 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Here is what I predict - everybody get your pen and paper out (or just print this comment for future reference):

Obama will jerk around the whole region, driving oil (and resulting fuel) prices through the roof by the end of his term as POTUS. He will then swindle the stupid American voters (or at least attempt to) into believing that it is the evil oil-loving Republicans in charge of the House who brought the high prices on...

His degree of success will be directly related to how the Repubs in BOTH houses address this and other issues (not that our CONgress has any real power to do anything in Egypt - but they can shut down the Obama agenda and force good legislation/undo bad legislation and cram it down The One’s throats - and reminding the voters WHO held up REAL progress...


12 posted on 02/01/2011 12:17:58 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: skeeter

Mubarak may have been a dictator BUT HE WAS OUR DICTATOR.

Much like Obama.


13 posted on 02/01/2011 12:18:26 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
OK, you scared me.

Now, do we go house to house, beating the living crap out of anyone who voted for The Mombasa Moonbeam? I mean so waddawedonow?

Commies to my Left. Wimps to my Right.
No end in sight
Whateva.
Ain't nobody said was gonna last foreva.

14 posted on 02/01/2011 12:22:34 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (America might survive Obama. It cannot survive those who vote for him)
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To: Ev Reeman

The difference being Mubarek is/was good for American interests.


15 posted on 02/01/2011 12:23:47 PM PST by skeeter
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
OK, you scared me.

Now, do we go house to house, beating the living crap out of anyone who voted for The Mombasa Moonbeam? I mean so waddawedonow?

Commies to my Left. Wimps to my Right.
No end in sight
Whateva.
Ain't nobody said was gonna last foreva.

16 posted on 02/01/2011 12:26:05 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (America might survive Obama. It cannot survive those who vote for him)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

True. When trying to figure out just what the h*ll Obama’s foreign policy is, its useful to remember that EVERYTHING he does is done with an eye to consolidating his own power and pursuing his personal domestic agenda.


17 posted on 02/01/2011 12:27:53 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

I’m still waiting for the ‘freedom loving citizens’(sounds like a phrase out of Pravda, btw).

Where are they at?


18 posted on 02/01/2011 12:34:54 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (WTF with Obama!!)
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To: skeeter

I think history shows and the future will verify that democracy and Islam are incompatible with one another. Egypt has a dictator because Egypt wants and needs a dictator. They don’t want a democracy and they won’t tolerate a democracy because democracy is seen as a western/zionist institution. One way or the other, this will result in an Islamic government that is hostile towards the west and, of course, Israel. Israel needs to prepare for the big one.


19 posted on 02/01/2011 12:38:47 PM PST by RC one (Come get some.)
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To: RC one
The founders knew that our form of government was incompatible with most other societies.

This idea that what we now call "democracy" is the passion of every nation on earth is madness and will ultimately put us in a far far worse situation than pursuing a foreign policy based upon our own practical interests will. Most muslims will welcome "democracy" with open arms as long as it takes to vote in a mullah who'll kill or run out all the non-muslims and implement Sharia.

20 posted on 02/01/2011 12:48:09 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

What needs to be thought of is what the protesters want anyways. As we all know, they threw out the Shah, they simply got themselves a new, more fundamentalist, more totalitarian regime. For all we know, the protesting Egyptians may want a more fundamentalist regime at the moment to replace Mubarak. There just needs to be more information.


21 posted on 02/01/2011 1:21:02 PM PST by Morpheus2009 ("God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

Barry,

if we protest you (again), will you promise not to run again?


22 posted on 02/01/2011 1:49:51 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

Frankly, once things reached this point in Egypt, there was no “right” move. Support the “democracy” protestors, who if they win will wittingly or unwittingly usher in an islamic theocracy? Or support a secular dictator? Lose-lose.

Where odummo screwed this up is in setting the stage for this to even happen by being consistently weak, appeasing, and feckless in foreign affairs.


23 posted on 02/01/2011 4:19:05 PM PST by piytar (Obastard is a use of the term "bastard" in the literal sense -- Obama is hiding his daddy's identity)
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To: Ev Reeman
Will Bibi be the next world leader to be thrown under Obama’s bus?

Bibi has nukes. I don't think he'll go quietly.

24 posted on 02/01/2011 6:27:26 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“...What is the fool trying to do, recreate the Ottoman Empire?”

Yes, well, sort of.

Obama hasn’t lost anything. As President of the U.S.A., we might say he has truly lost an ally. But Obama is a usurper and a Muslim who supports the concept of a world-wide Caliphate, so he hasn’t lost anything. In fact, quite the opposite.

He is not, however, trying to replicate the Ottoman Empire. It was a horribly poor example of Islamic rule. I believe he prefers a form of government along the lines of Iran’s repressive tyranny.

He is, no doubt, quite pleased with how things are moving along.


25 posted on 02/01/2011 7:47:04 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll
Department of Unpopular Prognostication:

I think the Mombasa Moonbeam is going to get lucky.

Of course, Mubarak is going to take the gloves off fairly soon, and sort the Gippos out. They'll return to their hovels as soon as they are too hungry to riot any further ... and after they get Napoleon's "whiff of grapeshot." Mubarak and the Egyptian military are too smart to get tough too soon. Take about another week.

Mubarak has resigned, i.e., promised not to "run" again in September, and will buy some time to restore order and what passes for a government in these parts.

All of this will be claimed as a Mombasa Moonbeam Moment, with our POTUS taking full credit for restoring calm and bringing "democracy" to Egypt. That means the MB will take over, but more slowly. The fact that Obama has nothing to do with it will not deter his handlers from declaring victory.

The Egyptian military is really not inclined to let the Islamists take over. IMHO, of course.

Where TF is King Farouk when we need him?

26 posted on 02/02/2011 7:17:09 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America might survive Obama. It cannot survive those who vote for him)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“Where TF is King Farouk when we need him?”

He’s in the Ile de France restaurant in Rome, sopping up the vittles. At least his ghost is.


27 posted on 02/02/2011 5:59:26 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, for the humorless life)
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