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Been to the supermarket lately?
The Radio Patriot ^ | Feb. 14, 2011 | Andrea Shea King

Posted on 02/14/2011 9:06:08 AM PST by patriotgal1787

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Last night I sent out an email to all on my list about the rising price of food in our supermarkets.  It included a post by Director Blue. This morning, as I was hearing Glenn Beck -- in a lead in to a commercial spot for a food storage company -- give out some facts and figures about how much food prices have risen, I was reading the responses to my email.  (I've  included them at the end of this post).

Friends,

I went shopping for groceries last Friday -- green peppers were $1.24 each -- at Walmart!  No peppers for me this week.  Lucky to have onions...  Below explains why, and that's not even counting higher prices coming due to increased fuel costs at the pumps -- Andrea

Food Distributor Sysco: Prepare for Food Price Inflation as Freezing Temperatures and/or Global Warming Kill 80-100% of Mexico's Harvest

I forget: is the proper term global warming or climate change? Either way, the following memo from food giant Sysco appears rather dire (PDF).

All of our growers have invoked the act of god clause on our contracts (force majuere) due to the following release:

The extreme freezing temperatures hit a very broad section of major growing regions in Mexico, from Hermosillo in the north all the way south to Los Mochis and even south of Culiacan. The early reports are still coming in but most are showing losses of crops in the range of 80 to 100%.

Even shade house product was hit by the extremely cold temps. It will take 7-10 days to have a clearer picture from growers and field supervisors, but these growing regions haven’t had cold like this in over a half century.

This time of year, Mexico supplies a significant percent of North America’s row crop vegetables such as green beans, eggplant, cucumbers, squash, peppers, asparagus, and round and roma tomatoes.

Florida normally is a major supplier for these items as well but they have already been struck with severe freeze damage in December and January and up until now have had to purchase product out of Mexico to fill their commitments; that is no longer an option.

With the series of weather disasters that have occurred in both of these major growing areas, we will experience immediate volatile prices, expected limited availability, and mediocre quality at best.

This will not only have an immediate impact on supplies, but because of very strong blossom drops, this will also impact supplies 30 – 60 days from now. Some growers are meeting with their boards right now to determine whether they should immediately re-plant, hoping for a harvest by late-march-to-early-april, or whether they should disc the fields under and wait for another season.

We are doing everything we can with our growers to minimize the effect of this disaster on you. With the unprecedented magnitude of this event we wanted to immediately make you aware of the conditions. We will continue to send out communications as our people on the ground report back to us. We thank you and we appreciate your understanding during this time.

Tiffiny wrote: "I was in Walmart and they had this sign posted to say there were manufacturer shortages. Funny... well not so funny."

Susan: "I buy local produce from the green markets. So much cheaper AND it keeps the money local with the small biz!!!"

Vic: "Interesting release. I bought a 50lb bag of onions at work (Sam's) on Saturday. They come in 10's or 50's. I noted we were out of 50's but and the price of the ten's had gone up about 25%. I went in the back and an palate had just come in with bags of the 10's in 50lb sacks. So I got a bag of 5 and got the 50lb. price. 20 lbs. for free. Hey who said men weren't frugal shoppers. Our 6 pack of green peppers are still. $5.96. Glad we grow and freeze our own green beans. The victory gardens are going to have to make a comeback this year."

Bob: "Try this: http://www.survivalseedbank.com/"

TMH: "Hey - try $2.50 for a pepper here in Idaho. We got you beat. Not good..."

What is happening in your supermarkets? Are you cutting back and making your food dollars stretch? How?

At the checkout, I chatted with a woman in line who told me she's now making things "from scratch". It's cheaper that way, she said.

How you're coping with rising food prices? . . . . .


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Food; Gardening
KEYWORDS: food; inflation; obamanomics; risingprices; supermarket
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1 posted on 02/14/2011 9:06:16 AM PST by patriotgal1787
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To: patriotgal1787

We tilled up my garden this weekend to get ready for planting. I fear we are too late for peas, onions and cabbage. But, we will have tomatoes, cucumbers peppers and green beans.


2 posted on 02/14/2011 9:11:18 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: patriotgal1787
Obama promised us that prices would "skyrocket" under him.

Count this as a promise kept.

3 posted on 02/14/2011 9:14:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: patriotgal1787

Been listening to Beck and stocked the freezer and pantry over the last 4 months. Not food storage company stuff - just kept putting extra regular food in the cart when I shopped. Will still probably buy tomatoes if they are available, but otherwise for fresh stuff will just watch prices and only buy if reasonable.

Something I am watching for is a price drop in meat or poultry. When the price of raising the animals is more than the farmer can get for it, they flood the market. Briefly, the supermarket price dives, i’ll buy then and freeze it.


4 posted on 02/14/2011 9:14:23 AM PST by freemama
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To: patriotgal1787
I remember my grandmother saying a long time ago, "if I didn't have to eat, I'd be rich." That's true the way things are going. B-P

I know there is an old guy in India who claims that he hasn't eaten a thing since the 1930's. The Indian Army sent one of their doctors to see why and he doesn't know how ho stays alive. Maybe it is time to find the secret.

I deliver auto parts for a living. I saw a pack of wild turkeys cut in front of me the other day and there was a temptation in me to run them over for food. I once hit a deer with my Explorer, no damage but the deer flew off into the woods. I know people who hunt deer with motor vehicles, if things get that bad, you might see that more. B-P
5 posted on 02/14/2011 9:15:18 AM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: patriotgal1787

I’m using my frozen, canned and dehydrated foods, stored from years past...I’m not paying those current prices. And won’t have to for years to come.

And I chuckle, just a little, at those people and the media who ridiculed ‘preppers’ and long term food storage.

Those on foodstamps won’t care about the prices. Those who are working and paying with their hard earned money (who are also paying for others’ foodstamps) do care!


6 posted on 02/14/2011 9:19:10 AM PST by Freddd
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To: patriotgal1787

Food prices are going to go up. I was at a lower priced restaurant and there a 60 something couple talking at the next table. They were furious and filled with despair. They said - “we worked all our lives and now it is like the rug is being out from our feet.”

Hope and Change. Get used to it because things are gonna get worse. Obama helped by ALL of TV which ALL support him including Fox.


7 posted on 02/14/2011 9:20:15 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Dudoight
We still have snow on the ground. Our planting can't start until the end of may. We start the seedlings in the green house about mid April.
I think I'll expand the garden a bit this year. We use heirloom seeds, so we always save more than we need. My guess is our extended families and neighbors might appreciate a few "Care Packages" this year.
8 posted on 02/14/2011 9:20:16 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: patriotgal1787

1) Coupons baby,Coupons

2) When an item is on special, LOAD up

3) Grocery shop on Saturday during lunch when ALL the free samples are available-—that takes care of one meal.

4) Dumpster dive—yes I admitt it.

5) Take a thermos to work and pour in all the leftover coffee at the end of the day... this is my weekend coffee

6) Shower at the gym...save on water and soap

7) Chew each bite of food 20 times...this tricks the body into thinking you’ve eaten more then you actually did

8) Eat 8 small meals as opposed to 3 normal ones—also tricks body

9) Lose the soda...and juice. Water and Coffee ONLY

10) buy less fresh tomatoes and more canned tomatoes...mix together

11) ground frozen turkey is a hell of a lot cheaper than ground beef and has less fat

12) buy in bulk, cook in large quantities and invest in Tupperware

13) get religion and hit the church dinner gatherings....


9 posted on 02/14/2011 9:24:19 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Nowhere Man

I was reading something about the people of Okinawa live very long because meat is a smaller portion in their food. The meat in there case is usually fish.

Americans are going to have to make do with a LOT less. Thank the idiots who voted for Obama and ALL of TV which supports Obama plus teh idiots who watch TV.


10 posted on 02/14/2011 9:25:00 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Nowhere Man
I have three or four (store bought) turkeys in the freezer.

Cheap, relatively healthful meat.

Don't try to keep cooked turkey more than about a week to 10 days, though.

11 posted on 02/14/2011 9:26:02 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: freemama
Something I am watching for is a price drop in meat or poultry.

Our local feed store said they're not selling much feed these days. Farmers are getting rid of their animals because of the price of corn.
A relative sold off all his beef. He decided, for now, to just cut hay unless things change for the corn market.
We've got to stop wasting our food for the sake a of a few fringe voters. Ethanol does nothing for anyone (except increase the politicians campaign funds).

12 posted on 02/14/2011 9:29:39 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: patriotgal1787

Those prices are for the stupid....Leave it on the shelf...


13 posted on 02/14/2011 9:30:38 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Thanks for the suggestions. I like a lot of your suggestions. The coffee at the end of the weekend or even the end of the day makes sense.....we spill out a bunch of coffee through the week, BUT it never occurred to me to take the thermos and pour it in it and drink either during the night or morning or even over the weekend. Brilliant! However, I cannot dumpster dive...it is a psychological thing for me.....I just won’t do it even if I am about to die of starvation.


14 posted on 02/14/2011 9:34:33 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: freemama
Something I am watching for is a price drop in meat or poultry. When the price of raising the animals is more than the farmer can get for it, they flood the market. Briefly, the supermarket price dives, i’ll buy then and freeze it.

I was at Costco yesterday and noticed veal cutlets at $8.99, when the cheapest I ever see them has been $9.99. I'm guessing that a number of farmers have decided it's cheaper to butcher their calves now than feed them to beef-size.

15 posted on 02/14/2011 9:38:05 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
"Take a thermos to work and pour in all the leftover coffee at the end of the day... this is my weekend coffee."

Hmm...boiler compound. I believe by Sunday you could float a horseshoe on that stuff.
16 posted on 02/14/2011 9:40:59 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: knarf
I have three or four (store bought) turkeys in the freezer.

Remember to use the left over bones for broth. It makes good soups and stews. That's one meal most people toss out.

"Top of the Stove Bread" is cheap, fresh, and perfect for a turkey soup or stew meal. You don't even need an oven.

1.5 cups bread flour
3/4 cup water
about 3/4 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp yeast
Mix in small bowl,cover with damp cloth, let set until next day (about an hour or so before dinner).
Gently remove, and place in small, lightly greased cast iron fry pan. Cook over lowest heat possible about 1/2 hour. If firm enough, gently turn over and cook the other side another one half hour.
This bread is airy, warm, and tastes great.

17 posted on 02/14/2011 9:41:43 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: napscoordinator

Dumpster diving is difficult and you must know what to look for.

Even easier, watch the garbage bucket at work.

I see folks throw away bananas because they are a little brown. They are still good.

Someone will bring in donuts on a Friday. They toss the rest away at the end of the day and I dig them out of the garbage and that becomes my week end desert.


18 posted on 02/14/2011 9:43:37 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge
"6) Shower at the gym...save on water and soap"

So you pay for a gym membership to save on soap and water?

19 posted on 02/14/2011 9:50:56 AM PST by Trinity5
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To: patriotgal1787

To achieve their goal of Centralized World Government the Left must first rip down to the ground all Nations that are self sufficient, or have the ability to be.

Once they achieve that goal they start to rebuild in their centralized vision.

We are in the process of being destroyed, ripped down to the ground by Leftist design.


20 posted on 02/14/2011 9:53:17 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Well you do save a lot of money doing this.


21 posted on 02/14/2011 9:55:15 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: patriotgal1787

The worst part is that these stores think we shoppers are stupid or something.

I was in a Kroger store last night and just two weeks ago I purchased a gallon of milk for $2.68! I have been purchasing this milk for the last two years at this SAME Kroger and it has ALWAYS been $2.68!

Yesterday, they had a new “regular” price of $2.99. Then a yellow “sale” price of $2.88 (which was taped over another price tag that read $2.68)! I mean, dang at least ACT like you don’t think we are complete imbeciles! SAD!


22 posted on 02/14/2011 9:55:47 AM PST by ExTxMarine ("Convictions are more dangerous to truth than lies." ~ F. Nietzsche)
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To: patriotgal1787

Basements and garages the new green houses.


23 posted on 02/14/2011 10:00:18 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Trinity5

“So you pay for a gym membership to save on soap and water?”

No...I pay a membership at a gym to keep myself healthy thereby saving medical expenses that commonly occur when one is overweight. I am in phenomenal shape.

Showering at the gym is just another way to save money.


24 posted on 02/14/2011 10:03:18 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: PatriotGirl827

bookmark for an important thread


25 posted on 02/14/2011 10:05:16 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus, direct my mind, possess my heart, transform my life)
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To: concerned about politics

Thanks for the recipe, I’ll try that, never heard of it before.


26 posted on 02/14/2011 10:05:33 AM PST by Freddd
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To: Le Chien Rouge
13) get religion and hit the church dinner gatherings...

LOL, you're better off not "getting" religion and just keep visiting for each pot luck, spaghetti dinner, etc.

27 posted on 02/14/2011 10:13:04 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: PapaBear3625

I was also at Costco yesterday. Over the last year lamb roast has risen from $4lb to $5lb, and it’s just gone up again to $5.49lb. Bulk bratwurst/italian sausage up $2 a package over last 12 months, frozen 1lb ground beef chubs up $0.50lb, prepacked deli meat up $2 a package. Chicken is still staying cheap, for the time being....


28 posted on 02/14/2011 10:13:27 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: Freddd
Thanks for the recipe, I’ll try that, never heard of it before.

I think the long rise time might be why it tastes so good. It's so easy, you can whip up a bowl of dough after dinner one night and always have fresh bread for the next.
My husband loves it. When I don't have a "loaf" handy for dinner, he complains (what a whiner).

29 posted on 02/14/2011 10:16:18 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics
Remember to use the left over bones for broth. It makes good soups and stews.

I cruise the meat department for beef bones and turkey necks, make stocks, and can what I don't use immediately.

30 posted on 02/14/2011 10:23:54 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
I cruise the meat department for beef bones and turkey necks, make stocks, and can what I don't use immediately.

Most people forget about the broth, but it has more nutritional value than the meat. Soups and stews make a great lunch at very little expense.

31 posted on 02/14/2011 10:28:06 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: rockinqsranch

To achieve their goal of Centralized World Government the Left must first rip down to the ground all Nations that are self sufficient, or have the ability to be.

Once they achieve that goal they start to rebuild in their centralized vision.

We are in the process of being destroyed, ripped down to the ground by Leftist design.


First line from Rev.Wright’s a former Muslim, black liberation theology, TEAR DOWN THEIR GOD.


32 posted on 02/14/2011 10:29:43 AM PST by Freddd
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To: concerned about politics

I recently pressure canned ham I got on sale. And the broth. Made a soup/stew the other night, small amount of home canned ham, made with the broth, it was absolutely delicious.


33 posted on 02/14/2011 10:33:42 AM PST by Freddd
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To: ExTxMarine

I’ve been purchasing whole milk at Walmart recently...was running $0.99/gal and now $1.38/gal. (Yes, that’s one gallon, not 1/2 gallon.)(Walmart in Texas)


34 posted on 02/14/2011 10:37:53 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: concerned about politics

Does that recipe for bread come with an oven temperature and time? Oftentimes, I have a 350 oven going for something else, and could slip that bread in for a set period of time if you think it would work.


35 posted on 02/14/2011 10:48:36 AM PST by kiltie65
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

I know! I live too far away from a Wal-Mart to make regular visits. But in December I purchased four (4) gallons for $3.96!

And I froze them! It was awesome!


36 posted on 02/14/2011 10:51:10 AM PST by ExTxMarine ("Convictions are more dangerous to truth than lies." ~ F. Nietzsche)
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To: kiltie65
Does that recipe for bread come with an oven temperature and time?

No, it's a little different than regular bread. First, you'll need to double the recipe, use a covered cast iron stew pot, and increase the temperature to 475, then bake for 30 minutes. Then remove the lid and bake another 15 minutes.
This turns out like a round, rustic bread. If the bread isn't raised enough or the temperature is too low, the bread has a bit of a hard crust. This one will take a little practice. If you can master it, though, it's EXCELLENT.

37 posted on 02/14/2011 10:57:39 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

if you cook it on top of the stove, do you cover it?

Am I right in saying that if you put it in the oven you have to cover it?


38 posted on 02/14/2011 11:26:56 AM PST by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: patriotgal1787

I have done several things.

Instead of purchasing 10 pound bags of rice, I have been buying 25 pound bags of rice at stores like Costco or Cash and Carry. A 25 lb. bag of rice runs about $20 so it is not a big expenditure and not much difference in price. I also have been buying a lot of dry beans, and other long lasting foods, such as dehydrated onions, gravy mixes( just add water and you have a basis for a stew), salt and other seasonings that carry a longer shelf life.

Watching the grocery ads and stocking up on items we use when they are at loss leader prices. I have picked up 30 oz.jars of Mayo for $1.99, Spaghetti Sauce at less than $1 jar or can, dry pasta, canned meats and fish, and lots of other good deals. Canned goods go on sale frequently too, so stock up when the prices are low. Also look for discount grocery stores in your area. Grocery outlet, Winco, Dollar stores, and even pharmacies, often have loss leader prices on canned goods that are far less than your local grocery store.

I pick up meats when they are on sale too. London Broil, pork roasts, ham, and chicken breasts are often on sale for $1.99 lb. or less. Chicken and turkey is often even less than $1 per pound. I have made it a rule to never buy meat unless it is on sale and under $2 per lb. Think about buying large pieces of meat or family packs that you can break down into meal size portions to suit your family and store in zip lock bags in the freezer, or cook a larger piece of meat and then use the leftover meat for other dishes the rest of the week or freeze them to throw in a soup, stew or casserole at a later date.

Doubling up on coupons whenever possible using one store coupon and one manufacturer’s coupon for the maximum discount allowed. Using the store’s double coupons whenever they are offerred. You would be amazed at what you can save. As an example, Toothpaste was on sale for .99 with a store coupon. I had a .75 cent off manufacturer’s coupon, so I got a tube of toothpaste for .24. Since I started using the coupons in the Sunday paper with the store’s weekly ad coupons I have been saving about 30% off my grocery purchases. Plan your meals based on what you have in your freezer, refrigerator, and pantry, instead of going out and purchasing the items at regular prices for a meal.

I also have been stretching the food I cook for my family. I freeze all leftovers if I am not going to use them right away. I then can pull out leftover veggies, meat and rice to add to soups and stews at a later date. Any leftover pasta I usually stir fry with a few veggies for a side dish or make a pasta salad for another meal if there is a larger quantity leftover, or I eat for my own lunch the next day for smaller leftover pasta portions. Most sauces, gravies, etc. freeze well. I have freezer containers in pint, 1 1/2 pint, quart, and half gallon sizes that work well for this and stack easily in your freezer. Using more potatoes, rice, pasta, dry beans, and less meat per person each week can save a lot in your grocery budget. If a recipe calls for a pound of meat see if you can reduce it to 3/4 or even half a pound of meat by increasing the veggies, rice, or pasta in a dish. I also add mushrooms to a lot of dishes. It is a trick of the eye and the palate but they are hearty and the trick the eye and the stomach into thinking there is more meat in the dish than there really is.

Casseroles, soups and stews which enable me to stretch meat further are becoming frequent dinners at our house. I have gotten creative with leftovers so in addition leftover meat can be added with fresh or frozen vegetables to make stir frys, fajitas, used in casseroles, and stroganoff, etc.

Bones from meals such as a turkey or chicken carcass, a large ham, etc. are either boiled down right away to make stock for beans, soup, or stew, or thrown in a freezer bag so I can boil them down at a later date. Any meat that comes off the bones is also saved to throw in the soup or stew. I also save the stock when I fix a boiled cornbeef and cabbage dinner. The stock makes the best split pea soup or beans you have ever tasted.

I was a frugal shopper and cook before I started cutting the food budget and implementing cost containing strategies, but by buying larger quantities of staples, sticking to sale items and necessities at the grocery store, and gradually stocking up on items with a longer shelf life (many of which do not require the use of my freezer space so I can reserve it primarily for leftovers and meat) I have cut our family food budget by 50% despite the increases in prices at the grocery store and my freezer, and the freezers in both our refrigerators are fully stocked at all times now. Our pantry is also full and we emptied out a storage closet and installed shelves in it to use for additional longer term pantry storage. Think creatively when it comes to storage too. I know of people who store items under beds, in garages and attics, inside storage benches, etc. Even in a small apartment there are places you can store extra food stores.

Hope this helps anyone who wants to save on groceries.


39 posted on 02/14/2011 12:11:32 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: Flamenco Lady

Terrific suggestions, Flamenco Lady! Thank you!


40 posted on 02/14/2011 1:22:03 PM PST by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

14) With the money you save, enroll in French lessons.


41 posted on 02/14/2011 1:24:00 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Abbie Hoffman (remember him?) once published a book titled “Free” with instructions on how to survive without cash. (I think it was later incorporated into “Steal This Book”.) Your library might still have it, unless it’s been stolen.


42 posted on 02/14/2011 1:27:19 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: patriotgal1787

It’s not just food prices, but cleaning, grooming, and hair products have gone out of site.

Learn the art of using COUPONS, you can at least halve your grocery bill.

Coupon Whisperer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2671454/posts?page=30

You can grow bush green beans, and tomatoes if you grow noting else. I hide my green beans behind the flowers out front, which the Homeower’s A does not want but I don’t give a hoot, as they don’t know they are there. Buy the bush bean seeds at a co-op or farm store. CHEAPER.


43 posted on 02/14/2011 1:40:49 PM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: freemama

This is going to kill a lot of restaurant jobs. More unemployment on the way.


44 posted on 02/14/2011 1:43:36 PM PST by Loud Mime (No, my liberal friend; you are not modern; you are old-style foolish)
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To: GailA

Produce prices skyrocket with freeze in Mexico, Southwest
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2673430/posts


45 posted on 02/14/2011 1:43:55 PM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: Flamenco Lady

I want to eat at your house!


46 posted on 02/14/2011 1:57:10 PM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: concerned about politics

Why not just do the mixin’s in the fryin’ pan ?


47 posted on 02/14/2011 2:06:37 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: concerned about politics

You can get quite a bit of meat from a couple of turkey necks.


48 posted on 02/14/2011 6:20:28 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: concerned about politics

Essentially we are safe to set out seedlings after March 15th. I have grown some heirlooms in the past. haven’t started anything in flats in the house this year. There is still time...but I don’t know if I will do it.


49 posted on 02/14/2011 7:33:38 PM PST by Dudoight
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To: ExTxMarine

All these greedy SOBs are now having these sales event, but just before the sale, they’re jacking up the prices...The *sale* deal your getting is actually higher than ya paid last time at the regular price.

This is getting like what happened to the housing bubble 5 years ago...With prices going up daily...


50 posted on 02/14/2011 8:05:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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