Skip to comments.Why Can't the US Army Unionize and Go on Strike?...They're Public Workers, Too
Posted on 02/23/2011 10:48:15 AM PST by xzins
Service Employees with a BULLET! Literally. And a cannon, too.
These folks put the Service in the word Service. Long hours, low pay, lousy conditions, dangerous occupation, and management that demands strict obedience.
What is there not to strike over?!
Walking the picket line? These guys invented it.
Taking broadsides from the opposition? I mean, really, is that 105 or 155?
Let me guess...you don't think they should be allowed to strike, because they are sworn to a grave, public duty. And such people in such serious roles affecting countless lives all around them shouldn't be allowed to just walk out because of money or hardship.
Hey! Why just the Army? What about us guys from the Navy?
shouldn’t I be able to claim all that back pay for all those overtime hours I put In? And how about extra pay for making us ride on those big iron boats?
Agreed to your post...
In Europe the military has a union. Not a good idea. Not a good idea that idiots voted for a muslim and he is letting our troops get picked off like penny aracade bears in Afghanistand and Iraq. But TV got him elected and the idiots love TV.
I love the navy. Worked on-board with them for a few months, once upon a time.
But, yeah. The broadside comment would fit them to a T (with bell botoom blue jeans).
In Europe the military is an ornament for old castles and famous battlefields of yore.
When fighting needs getting done, they whine for the US to step in.
“Europe” doesn’t have a military.
Britain, France, Germany - they have militaries. Some more impressive than others.
No kidding. Many western european countries have unionized military.
You are correct. Britain does not, but Germany, Belgium, Holland and others have 2 militaries. One is for those who volunteer as a full time career, and as far as I can remember it’s not unionized, but those who serve as required by law, usually for 1 year or so when they are about 18 years old or so, do have a union. I can tell you when I served, the Dutch drafted soldiers went on strike and staged a sit in for something or the other. We (the Brits and Americans) were amazed.
Thanks, Cid. Appreciate the support.
Ummm...if you look at the National Guard and Army Reserve, you will find that many of their full-time employees do, in fact, belong to a union. There are two kinds of full-time support Soldiers, technicians (General Schedule and Wage-Grade) and AGRs (Active Guard and Reserve). AGRs were formed because: the unionized technicians didn’t think they should wear uniforms; didn’t think they should have to go to weekend drills or the two week Annual Training; didn’t think they should deploy with their units to combat zones; didn’t think they should belong to the National Guard or Army Reserve.
That is not a new question, it has come up numerous times in the past. It is not a good idea and should not happen but the question is a valid one in relation to police and firefighters.
You are either a sworn in soldier — active, guard, or reserve — or you aren’t a soldier. There is no such thing as a soldier who is not sworn in.
Any soldier who has a civilian job, whether government or private, can belong to a union for THAT job. But not for his military unit of assignment/duty.
The same ones who argue for public worker unions see the danger when you bring up a unionized military.
I could see this in application, though. "Sorry, Sir, I don't load the howitzer, I aim the howitzer. If I I load the howitzer the shop steward will submit a grievance and we'll be buried in paperwork." Come to think of it, I did have a few guys who sort of acted that way...
I remember they always wanted the short guy to drive the tank. :>)
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