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Liberal Mind _ Genetic or Learned
My firtle mind | 2/28/2011 | Bill Ingram - AKA "JonGaltSr"

Posted on 02/28/2011 5:16:49 PM PST by jongaltsr

What makes the liberal mind?

It has bothered me for many years that there are some people which we refer to as Liberals, Leftist, and Communist, that don’t behave as individuals but can only exist as a group. The obvious fact that brings this to a place of importance is that this group just can not tolerate my way of life and that of most of society. I just can’t perceive why they think like they do? It just isn’t normal.

Why is their worldview so contrary to everything most of us have learne? What is different in their views of the workings of the world’s societies and more specifically, individuals within those societies?

Why do these people perceive our freedom as being to their very existence? Why do they think that it is the collective that their freedom comes from? Can’t they see that the collective eventually tells you what you can and can’t do - what you can think and say - as well as where and how you live. You are ultimately told what jobs you qualify for – what kind of cars you should drive - and on and on and on.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: abnormal; dementalillness; leftism; liberal; liberalism; mental; unions
What makes the liberal mind?

It has bothered me for many years that there are some people which we refer to as Liberals, Leftist, and Communist, that don’t behave as individuals but can only exist as a group. The obvious fact that brings this to a place of importance is that this group just can not tolerate my way of life and that of most of society. I just can’t perceive why they think like they do? It just isn’t normal.

Why is their worldview so contrary to everything most of us have learne? What is different in their views of the workings of the world’s societies and more specifically, individuals within those societies?

Why do these people perceive our freedom as being to their very existence? Why do they think that it is the collective that their freedom comes from? Can’t they see that the collective eventually tells you what you can and can’t do - what you can think and say - as well as where and how you live. You are ultimately told what jobs you qualify for – what kind of cars you should drive - and on and on and on.

This mental disease or confusion has to be something that has to be hard wired in most but not all of those so afflicted. Or at least that was my first Thesis. Now I don’t think this is true.

Could it be that there is something organic that makes these people perceives reality in such a contradictive manner as to what I, (possibly you) and most of the people in the world accept reality to be?

While my first thoughts were that it was genetic and that a certain combination of alleles on our chromosome could possibly cause such a distortion of reality. Later I began to realize that it was more an individual weakness that drove that these poor soles into duping themselves into an alternative reality.

There had to be an alternative state of reality that could never exist on its own. No individual would ever be able to get others to protect them from the realities of economics, long standing social norms, traditions and innate instincts. They seem to have “something” which makes them think that they are special. “Something” that tells them to ignore what others accept as reality.

My personal observations of such people ultimately led me to believe and understand that they basically are insecure and distrust most everyone about them. Therefore it was a learned insecurity that came from their early childhood or from some traumatic incident in their life.

Because they felt the way they do, they only feel secure when they are associating with others with the same insecurities. The trouble is that two, three or even a hundred such individuals banding together haven’t the ability to resolve issues and they only become more isolated and ultimately - worse off then when they were on their own. The only beneficial thing that the group has to offer them is that now they have like minded people that can empathize with their insecurities and that fact doesn’t resolve ANY problems about how they are going to survive.

So why do these people exist and maintain power in a practical, logical world of free enterprise and competition? I think it is because somewhere along the line they came together and understood that they had to organize amongst like-minded people to produce a system where they could all live equally and thrive doing so.

They knew that they couldn’t do it on their own because no person in their right mind would allow such an idea to take hold in their company or business. They had to have something that would shelter them long enough that they could become established and eventually powerful enough to make demands of others who did not agree with their choices.

They needed Government!

They needed a government that loved to help people with “Special Needs”.

They needed a place where else could they worm their way into society as a powerful and independent group.

They needed a specially constructed environment where “They” could not only isolate themselves from social norms, pressures, the rules of social behavior yet still be guaranteed the ability to prosper financially.

They needed a protected environment where they could artificially better themselves financially and eventually have social acceptance regardless of what society thought of them personally.

They needed an protected environment that gave them isolation from real world social constraints and economic pressures.

After coming to these conclusions, I realized that even if it was a chromosomal defect and had some effect, such individuals could not prosper in open competition with people in a free society.

It also had to be that there was some sort of internal justification that they were special and need (no – required) special consideration and protections from the outside. They had to be cohesive in a way that would guarantee that all members set aside both logic and any learned information that would prevent them from questioning their own beliefs.

They needed to no longer think scientifically while claiming to be all knowing.

In addition to their need to be isolated from free thinking individuals, they would require a groupthink mentality as well as an identity that would reinforce their newly learned behaviors from that day forward.

They need to see themselves as “Smarter” and “More Deserving” than the rest of the human race.

Note: Minorities and those truly suppressed by others, always isolate themselves from their suppressers. They create their own cryptic language and code language. They then wait for their numbers to increase to the point that they can start striking out at those they consider their suppressers. At first they just slander them behind their backs but with time it become more open and ultimately they physically attack when they are strong enough to do so.

Have you ever noted the almost deranged way the Palestinians act whey they fight the Israelis? They act like mad men - completely disregarding or using anything that appears to be logical or even approaching sane battle tactics.

If they drooled and ran randomly into objects in their delirium we would not be surprised.

It is because they really don’t have a sense of self. They only utilize groupthink and their brain will not work effectively when outside inborn thought processes and behaviors that regulate the actions of civilized men.

It is when “We” ourselves, know and can think logically in our own best interest that we can have a coherent battle plan to use against our enemies.

Liberals can’t think logically in normal conflicts and that is why they rely upon “chants” developed by others.

That is why their “Chants” (etc) rarely change from one demonstration to another. The words seem to change at times but the beat is always “Aboriginal”. Their brains have to fall back on basic human instincts from their earlier evolutionary times.

That is why they rage. They are doing what they are told and expected to do - however their brains are not fully engaged. They just following orders with no guidelines other than groupthink.

Conclusion:

While it may partially involve genetic anomalies that separate us from them, it is probably only a superficial difference. It is most likely their isolation from the realities we have to face daily, which keeps them safe and secure – just as long as “We” don’t upset their apple cart.

When the situation requires something beyond orders from their master organizers, they revert to instinctive (but primitive) behaviors.

Once they had established their separateness by creating the “Union” which protected them, they were at best superficially immune from outside pressures, morals, and ideas. Consequently they became comfortable in what they now accepted as a safe environment where only “Their” ideas are allowed and where anything else is kept out.

Things are dangerous because at some time a new idea might make enough of them to think about, consider and possible realize that they might be wrong. As long as they have their “Leaders” (or Thugs) to prevent this from occurring, they remain forever in a safe place where they don’t have to have bad thoughts that might upset their view of themselves.

This is all about an enclosed society that feeds back on itself to keep it stable and secure.

That is why insane asylums were developed.

The insane are placed amongst others that are also insane. They receive their drugs to keep them happy and the staff never criticizes their behavior. There they are safe from the outside world and remain happy as long as nobody from the outside threatens their false sense of reality.

(This is what makes us different from them. We have the kind of reality that forces us to face and deal with every day realities and learn from our mistakes).

1 posted on 02/28/2011 5:16:57 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr
Articles that explain how modern liberals suffer from a mental disorder.


2 posted on 02/28/2011 5:21:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: jongaltsr

Liberalism is a mental disorder.


3 posted on 02/28/2011 5:24:11 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: jongaltsr

genetic, learned or diseased

I’m leaning toward diseased


4 posted on 02/28/2011 5:24:45 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: jongaltsr

Arrested development.


5 posted on 02/28/2011 5:27:54 PM PST by yuleeyahoo
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To: jongaltsr
IMHO the liberal/progressive/socialist/Democrat mind set is the combination of three learned responses.

The first learned response occurs about 5 years after birth when the child develops a massive list of “I want” with absolutely no possibility of “I can buy”. parent who don’[t want to hurt their child's emotions buy everything and replace it as fast as they get broken. The child learns that he controls his world.

The second learned response occurs about 8 years later when the child learns that he has “rights”. This learning takes place in the public school system and is taught by his teachers.

The third response occurs about the same time when the child is denied the learning experience of failure. Social promotions in school was just the start. Now we have junior level sports without scores, awards for just showing up (I expect this to disappear shortly), and no valedictorians.

These three learned responses have produced two generations of people who know, not think, that they are Gia’s gift to Gia and their every wish must be grated immediately. Definitely a liberal/progressive/socialist/Democrat view of life.

6 posted on 02/28/2011 5:31:27 PM PST by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: jongaltsr

Could be genetic, my parents are Liberals but me and my brother are Conservatives; Two negatives make a positive, take two lefts and you’re going right, two Librals make a Consrevative...


7 posted on 02/28/2011 5:33:35 PM PST by MissMack99 (Mitt Romney is a FRAUD, he RUINED Mass. Don't let him finish Obama's job.)
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To: TigersEye

Everyone is born liberal. Then parental spankings, lessons of life, instruction, experiences, and reality cause most people to lose much of their liberalism. It’s called maturing.

Those who missed out on the maturing process remain liberal.


8 posted on 02/28/2011 5:36:48 PM PST by lurk
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To: lurk

That confirms the mental disorder diagnosis.


9 posted on 02/28/2011 5:42:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: jongaltsr

“Liberal Mind” is an oxymoron.


10 posted on 02/28/2011 5:44:40 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Every knife in my back pushes me forward.)
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To: jongaltsr

BOTH -

Some people are born with dysfunctional brains that just don’t process facts clearly.

But many libs are the product of their environment (though I believe it takes certain mental weaknesses to fall for the Left agenda - because it defies logic).


11 posted on 02/28/2011 6:04:37 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: jongaltsr
They need to see themselves as “Smarter” and “More Deserving” than the rest of the human race.

Almost hit the nail...its smarter or more deserving.

Two symbiotic groups come together to form "Liberal". This comes before "socialist", "Fascist", or any other "isms" can be applied.

First are the "smarter" who believe that they know what's right and wrong, what you need and want, and (critical) that they themselves are immune from the implications of doing things their way. They could be on the right or left, functional or nonfunctional (nuts), or of any disposition. But, they believe that they should be in charge, and they believe that they themselves will rise to the top and never face any of the likely horrors of making things all better for the rest of us. They are elitists, but it is "for your own good".

Second are the "deserving", those who believe that they've been denied something, by someone else, and they believe that is due to nothing they've done or failed to do themselves. "Nothing they've done themselves" can mean that they've simply done nothing themselves, for themselves or for anyone else. Just as often it means they've tried to do lots for themselves but are unable to accept their inadequacy. These are the "entitled" or special interests (elitists in their own right) who make it possible for the enlightened to act.

They need each other and feed off of each other. I'd guess it's likely that the enlightened must be present before the entitled can form or take any action other than riot or rebellion.

All this begs the question - learned or inherited? From observation, I'd say that either or both can be responsible, but if pressed I'd go with learned.

I've underlined "believe" in this comment because, without actually believing all you have are con artists looking out for their own interests. (Reverend Al, Mr. Gore, Bubba and Barry...are you listening?)

12 posted on 02/28/2011 6:17:34 PM PST by norton
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To: jongaltsr

The liberal mind is formed in two ways, IMO:

1.) The “elite” liberal, accustomed to buying whatever he wants, forms a liberal mind because he never NEEDS anything.

2.) The liberal mind, conditioned by the previously mentioned style of liberal mind, assumes that he should never need anything.

One is self-delusion. The other is more pernicious.


13 posted on 02/28/2011 6:21:19 PM PST by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: jongaltsr

Liberalism is a mental disorder, YES it is. A mental disorder disallowing the ability to fully perceive in total life as it is about them without a spoon, and a jar of Gerbers.

The Socialist Democrat Party is the Political Party of Liberalism, and all the factions of Liberal paranoia, and selfishness their pathetic lives are comprised.

The Criminal Marxist faction of Liberalism as the more cunning of this impaired lot provides the recruitment, and organizational aspects that draws together the numbers that make the Democrat Party viable in spite of their dubious membership.

Impaired minds create useful idiots for the criminal leadership of the Marxist ideology. The CPUSA, and the Democrat Party are the organizational entities for the useful idiots, and misfits of America. The World Communist Party, and the UN are the World’s organizational entities for the useful idiots, and misfits of the World.

Islam and Marxism have remarkable similarities. Recognize them, and expose them. They work hand in hand, not just today, but historically as well.


14 posted on 02/28/2011 6:36:41 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: jongaltsr

Perhaps it could be a left brain/right brain thing?


15 posted on 02/28/2011 6:39:05 PM PST by rochester
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To: jongaltsr

I have recently thought that the President and any other
person in the government who makes decisions concerning
other people - should be required by law to have a
BRAIN SCAN. Can you imagine at this present time in
history what those results would look like??
I saw on an episode of House that it can show for instance:
where there should be brain activity like empathy and
some scans show nothing...


16 posted on 02/28/2011 6:57:33 PM PST by savage woman
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To: jongaltsr

I’d suggest a sizable portion of them are due to voluntary, chemically induced, brain damage.


17 posted on 02/28/2011 7:09:00 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: jongaltsr

It’s from brainwashing. That or lack of brain.


18 posted on 02/28/2011 7:15:01 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: jongaltsr
I would say there are two distinct subsets within the diseased leftist population. There are the intelligent elites who possess great mental faculty which is perverted by ego and there are useful idiots who 'feel' and are led to feel they too are elite rather than simply slobbering lapdogs of the elite. Their religion is self with a facade of selfless -their have no clothes yet claim "education" provide a wardrobe not to be questioned...

They are individually impotent jealous spoiled brats --only dangerous when they have power...

I could go on and on; HOWEVER, simply put "it" is a mental disorder...

19 posted on 02/28/2011 7:53:25 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: jongaltsr

Dewey and Fabian socialists designed our school system after the Prussian system and lowered the age so that the “plastic mind” would be taken away from those who love them and care about their future...Children were removed from their Christian parents and put into a programed secular humanism curricula.

They designed curricula based on brainwashing/conditioning from the works of Pavlov and BF Skinner. It is large classrooms of one age to create group think and destroy “think out of the box” type thinking....those kids get ridiculed and humiliated and laughed at and get discouraged and feel “dumb”.

They make the kids raise their hand and ask for permission for bodily functions....to make them used to dependence and being told what to do—the opposite of what the Wright Bros., Edison, Franklin, had. Schools destroy independence, individualism and Christianity—they mock it and deride it. They teach cognitive dissonance—a marxist tactic to destroy logic and reason. It is when you teach young children opposing ideas....which can’t possibly be, so they have no logical base of thinking. Ex-KGB said many people will never be able to process information in a reasonable way with the brainwashing in the schools and in the media.

We need to destroy the textbooks that are used in the classrooms and not allow conditioned/brainwashed teachers from the programmed universities to get their clutches on vulnerable minds. We need to get control over the information children are getting from the media.

Mothers have to get back to guarding the emotional health and IQ of their children in the first 7 years of age. Finland, who score highest in science and math do not send their kids to school til 7. Lenin invented “daycare” to get children’s minds away from the fundamental ideas that made this country the best on earth and not easily led. Women (until the Feminist/commie movement always thought it evil to have strangers care for their young children....Evil—like orphanages....but the marxists put the name “school” into day care when all it does is create extreme stress and anxiety and insecurity in young children. It is what they want...no self-assured confident independent thinkers like those fine men of generations where their mothers and grandmothers were their in their formative years.


20 posted on 02/28/2011 8:00:38 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: jongaltsr; AnonymousConservative
You might find this interesting, and possibly reinforce, expand upon or whatever...

BTW, jongaltsr, you might check out AnonymousConservative's HOMEPAGE. He also has some very interesting theories about libtard's mental deficiencies.

21 posted on 02/28/2011 8:12:09 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: jongaltsr

It could be Bacterial or Viral - but it is an infection that effects the host.


22 posted on 02/28/2011 8:13:43 PM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: jongaltsr

Whatever it is, it has a built in suicide gene in the mix.


23 posted on 02/28/2011 8:36:11 PM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: rockinqsranch
Impaired minds create useful idiots for the criminal leadership of the Marxist ideology.

Agreed. To put a finer point on it, it's my observation that groupthink and victimology is a huge part of their M.O. First, create a group who can be cultivated into believing they are victims; women, minorities, union members, you name it. Nurture these dimwitted groups for a generation or two and voila! Instant and consistent votes for their Dim overlords saviors. BTW, whether they actually vote or not. Motor voter has done wonders for the downtrodden doncha know. Adding millions to voting rolls who NEVER make it to a polling place. Their saviors are kind enough to cast their votes for them. How good of 'em eh?

24 posted on 02/28/2011 8:56:11 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: jongaltsr

Liberalism is a character flaw or simply a lack of character.

I believe that for a person to be successful or at least well adjusted they must move from being dependent on others to being independent and self reliant. Liberals crave what they don’t have but won’t do what they should to achieve it. Preferring instead that their needs be filled by others.

A person must also become involved while avoiding becoming withdrawn. We have more and achieve more by giving ourselves away.

Perhaps selfish is the best description for a liberal yet true believers would say they are the selfless ones.

Helping a person become independent is more generous than giving them a handout. I never feel good about giving a beggar money; not because I’m selfish but because I truly believe I’m enabling his dependence on others.


25 posted on 02/28/2011 9:00:49 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Thank you for the ping, and sorry for the late reply, I’ve just gotten back to FR today, and gone through all the Pings I built up. I’ve been getting a more detailed website up for the last month, and ***I CAN NOT FREEP**** if I have anything I want to accomplish on the computer.

BTW, the first draft of the website is at www.anonymousconservative.com, if you want to check it out. Most of the supporting research is there, though I will probably rework the text in the future. I suspect it is guaranteed to drive any Liberals that read it batty, if they can even stand to assimilate any of the info.

Thanks again,


26 posted on 04/16/2011 1:25:12 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Click my Nick - see the evolutionary origin of Liberalism)
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To: TigersEye
I came across this article going over old pings.

I put up a website along the lines of the one's you have listed here, showing the defective natur eof Liberal psychology. It promotes a theory on the reason Liberalism evovled within our species. Lot of material on the site, if you're interested, and I think not only is it scientifically correct, it will drive Liberal's crazy.

Site's at : AnonymousConservative.com Freegards.

27 posted on 04/16/2011 1:35:10 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Click my Nick - see the evolutionary origin of Liberalism)
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To: AnonymousConservative

Thanks for the ping. That is a very interesting theory. I will add your book/website to my list.


28 posted on 04/16/2011 5:46:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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