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The Revenge of the “Worst Generation”
Conservative Hideout ^ | 3-5-11 | Matt

Posted on 03/05/2011 10:04:19 AM PST by Wanderer659

I have often said to my mother, who is a baby boomer and liberal, that my generation (Gen X), would have to clean up the mess that her generation left behind. As time wears on, that statement rings more and more true.

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The boomers do seem to have done more than their fair share of damage to our Republic.
1 posted on 03/05/2011 10:04:24 AM PST by Wanderer659
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To: Wanderer659
The boomers do seem to have done more than their fair share of damage to our Republic.

Most Freepers are Boomers..

2 posted on 03/05/2011 10:11:41 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: ExtremeUnction

“Most Freepers are Boomers..”

But, unfortunately....most Boomers are NOT Freepers....


3 posted on 03/05/2011 10:16:02 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: Wanderer659

I’m not sure there are enough of us to clean up the mess. X is the smallest generation, after all. What I think is likely is that the Boomers will pass, but X will be eclipsed quickly in influence by the much more numerous Millenials.


4 posted on 03/05/2011 10:16:39 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Wanderer659

Don’t blame all of us, please.


5 posted on 03/05/2011 10:16:42 AM PST by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a pit bull.)
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To: Wanderer659
The boomers do seem to have done more than their fair share of damage to our Republic.

Indeed--by forming groups such as Young Americans for Freedom, Youth for Goldwater, Youth for Reagan, and Young America's Foundation.

6 posted on 03/05/2011 10:17:47 AM PST by Rufii
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To: Wanderer659
But the question really is, “How did the greatest generation produce the worst generation.” While generation X grew up alone so we have an excuse. We don't have the same training that other generations had. We have an excuse. The Boomers had all the best that America can offer and they still managed to destroy America.

Did they do it because America wasn't perfect enough for them? Are they that pompous? Did they do just because they are jerks? What's the REAL reason?
7 posted on 03/05/2011 10:17:47 AM PST by grapeape (Blitzshield.com - making football safer)
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To: dainbramaged

I don’t, and I don’t think the author does either.

Look at the bottom of the post.


8 posted on 03/05/2011 10:18:53 AM PST by Wanderer659
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To: GenXteacher

As a fellow X’er, I don’t think there are enough of us to deal with the Boomers, let alone the echo folks. Even combined, there are less of us than Boomers put together.


9 posted on 03/05/2011 10:18:55 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: ExtremeUnction
I think I know what he is trying to say. I don't mean to interrupt, but I think he is trying to express how much damage was done by people referred to as baby boomers.

Of course not all baby boomers are guilty of this. That's what I got from the statement anyway.

10 posted on 03/05/2011 10:20:09 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Wanderer659
"The boomers do seem to have done more than their fair share of damage to our Republic."

Tell it to these boomers, youngun - as soon as your ears get dry.

11 posted on 03/05/2011 10:20:42 AM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: dainbramaged
Don’t blame all of us, please.

A segment, as it were.

12 posted on 03/05/2011 10:21:51 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: ExtremeUnction
Most Freepers are Boomers..

That's true. Here's the Disclaimer by the author of the piece:

"Disclaimer: Not every boomer was a petulant brat. Let’s just say that petulant brats are over-represented in that demographic."

13 posted on 03/05/2011 10:22:05 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Wanderer659

The Boomers were only the “First Worst” generation. Every generation after them has been bad too. They were the first generation of spoiled brats, but not the last. Just look at the current young adults: they whine about having to “fix the mess” while campaigning for a Marxist who hates America and the free market and actually promised to make energy costs skyrocket. How do they plan to fix the mess when they vote for people that want to destroy the mechanism that would actually have a chance at fixing things? Hopey Changitude?

Here’s a news flash for them: our economy runs on energy. When you restrict energy, you stop the machine. When you restrict energy to fight a boogeyman like Global Cooling/Warming/Climate Change, you are destroying the ability to “fix the mess” for the sake of a lie.

All “their guy” promises is more of the same empty thoughts that characterize the young adult boomers of the late 1960s. In fact, the people they vote for take their marching orders from elderly boomers. The generation that votes for Obama is just the boomers redux...minus the work ethic and morals that people born in the 1950s once had.


14 posted on 03/05/2011 10:23:00 AM PST by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: Wanderer659

I have to agree, the off-spring of the greatest generation has done a lot of damage.


15 posted on 03/05/2011 10:23:06 AM PST by Ballygrl
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; InShanghai; xrp; ...

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16 posted on 03/05/2011 10:23:25 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Add me if you would, please.


17 posted on 03/05/2011 10:24:35 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Wanderer659
Then, they created failed program after failed program, all paid for with trillions of borrowed dollars. And when the programs were clearly failures, and, in fact, made things worse, they plodded on. The kept following the leftist narrative

It's the lousy libtard ideas that are causing all the trouble, and any generation that has accepted those ideas is responsible for the consequences.

18 posted on 03/05/2011 10:27:41 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: JoeDetweiler

I’m a Gen X person myself (1966) .. well barely.


19 posted on 03/05/2011 10:28:19 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Wanderer659

Evidently Gen X and Gen Y put Obama in office.

How much damage do you think that has done to the Republic?

20 posted on 03/05/2011 10:28:36 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: grapeape
How did the greatest generation produce the worst generation

Remember, the "Greatest Generation" gave us a big dose of welfare state socialism--the Fair Deal, the New Frontier, the Great Society, and Dewey/Eisenhower/Rockefeller/Nixon's "Modern Republicanism," whose adherents are today known as RINO's. Perhaps they should be known as the Statist Generation.

21 posted on 03/05/2011 10:29:11 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: JoeDetweiler

I think that is the point.


22 posted on 03/05/2011 10:30:02 AM PST by Wanderer659
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To: GenXteacher

Good point. Scary, but good.


23 posted on 03/05/2011 10:31:43 AM PST by Wanderer659
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To: Wanderer659
Spare me the collectivist nonsense. Whatever unfairness one might perceive in self-identifying as a Generation-X'er or advantage misapplied to a "boomer," all such distinctions are interesting but essentially without much use or meaning.

None of us asked to be born in the first place, nor had we any say in where or when, and we're all in the deep end of the same gene pool.

It's weak argument, borderline bigotry and a dead end path with bedlam as the last house on the block.

If that's not persuasive enough, consider the command of God, which came with a promise: "Honor thy father and mother, that it may go well for you in the land."

24 posted on 03/05/2011 10:31:55 AM PST by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: Bryanw92

“whine about having to “fix the mess” while campaigning for a Marxist who hates America and the free market and actually promised to make energy costs skyrocket”

Let’s be fair.

The jobs market at present is the same as it was since 1998. That’s 13 years ago. The last time this happened was the Great Depression.

This is the heart of GenX’s working years. Are you surprised that they are upset with the policies put in place by the boomers?


25 posted on 03/05/2011 10:33:08 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: grapeape

They were spoiled. Same effect it has on children. It renders them into angry, useless brats.


26 posted on 03/05/2011 10:34:23 AM PST by riri
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To: BenKenobi

>> Are you surprised that they are upset with the policies put in place by the boomers?

Of course not. It is human nature to blame the previous generation for “stealing” your future when your future doesn’t turn out as good as you planned. Look at all the cases of patricide in the ancient world.

But when I see all the young people with pierced noses and tattoos on their faces or necks whining about the lack of career opportunities, I just want to laugh and hand them a mirror.

Most of the damage caused by the boomers was due to easy credit, yet an unemployeed young adult today has no problem signing a 2 year cell phone agreement to get the latest iPhone that will cost them a hundred bucks a month. When it comes to irresponsibility, we’re ALL boomers now.


27 posted on 03/05/2011 10:40:00 AM PST by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: Wanderer659
Lemme throw out something as a boomer. The Great Society was a Lyndon Johnson scheme. Social Security was an FDR scheme. Medicare was a Lyndon Johnson scheme. Title VII (EEOC) was passed in 1965, long before boomers had any influence in politics. Title IX was 1972. As a mid-boomer, I was in high school when this was passed.

The key schemes of socialism were passed by FDR and LBJ when most Boomers either hadn't been born or were in elementary or high school. Educational "reforms" were passed and we were the first victims of it. The Supreme Court decision on Roe v. Wade was in 1973 and all the participants except for Norma McCorvey, who later changed her position and became pro life, were not boomers (Sarah Weddington was born in 1945, prior to the end of the war, so she might be considered one, although baby boomers are normally considered to be those born after the war ended.)

28 posted on 03/05/2011 10:40:00 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: BenKenobi
This is the heart of GenX’s working years. Are you surprised that they are upset with the policies put in place by the boomers?

They can whine all they want. It isn't going to help them. The Boomers are now the biggest voting block in the country. They will have no choice but to pay.

29 posted on 03/05/2011 10:42:08 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: grapeape

what was the world like for “Boomers” coming of age?

polio...we were saved by a vaccine we got as kids...but it didn’t help my neighbor in the iron lung. she got it years before the vaccine.

air raid siren tests. those were fun. 3rd Friday of the month. 11:00 am. at school, you get under your desk. and ponder nuclear war and death. wonderful developmental tool.

Communists....with a mission to take over the world. At home, politics dominated by terror. War everywhere it seems. Missile gap. Fear.

and then,

Vietnam.

So explain to me, if the Boomers messed everything up, why is it that it seems so much better now.


30 posted on 03/05/2011 10:45:06 AM PST by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: grapeape
But the question really is, “How did the greatest generation produce the worst generation.”

Most of the answers you seek are found in David Horowitz's excellent book "Destructive Generation." Unprecedented affluence, the civil rights struggle and a cadre of American Communist Red Diaper babies combined to turn American ideals and traditions on their head.

31 posted on 03/05/2011 10:45:52 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Bryanw92

“Most of the damage caused by the boomers was due to easy credit.”

What, that whole tune in, turn on, drop out nonsense? The massive rise in illegitimacy and in divorce? Sure, some Boomers did the right thing, but as said, most boomers are not FReepers.

The massive rise in entitlements is directly connected to boomers not taking care of their own families. And we have to try to pare these entitlements back.


32 posted on 03/05/2011 10:47:21 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Wanderer659
The boomers do seem to have done more than their fair share of damage to our Republic.

Who said they were the only ones?

The "Greatest Generation" "saved" the U.S. from fascism and national socialism, only to vote it in here at home while leaving it to flourish in Eastern and Central Europe.

Epic fail.

33 posted on 03/05/2011 10:47:56 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Fiji Hill
The last time Walter Williams subbed for Rush, he said sth very similar. He said it's high time to put part of the blame for our problems on the 'greatest generation.' Although they were brave on the battlefield and resourceful in the depression, they raised their children incompetently and lacked vigilance about the dangerous growth of government.
34 posted on 03/05/2011 10:50:29 AM PST by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: Richard Kimball

“all the participants except for Norma McCorvey”

That’s a pretty big ‘except’.

That’s 50 million children, sir. Are we to think of it as ‘odd’, that just as the oldest Boomers are reaching their mid to late twenties we see Roe?

It makes perfect sense to me. Kill your kids, so you aren’t punished by having a baby.


35 posted on 03/05/2011 10:50:43 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Wanderer659

I’m a “Boomer” and readily admit that we have pretty much screwed things up. Our parents, who were Depression Babies or the World’s Greatest generation wanted to give us all the things they didn’t have.

In our generation, divorces skyrocketed and births dropped (because of the “pill” and abortion). We have unrealistic demands and we didn’t produce enough offspring to cover the cost of it.


36 posted on 03/05/2011 10:51:55 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: Fiji Hill; Prospero
Remember, the "Greatest Generation" gave us a big dose of welfare state socialism--the Fair Deal, the New Frontier, the Great Society...

I made the same point recently on another whining GenX thread.

People who want to take the intellectually lazy way out, and blame the Boomers for all of our current woes, are ignoring at least a half century of US history.

Our slide down into the morass we're in today, didn't start with the Boomer generation, nor even with their parents. It began much further back than that. The fact that we're even still standing as a nation, is a testament to the root strength of the American system, and our basic culture.

As Prospero said upthread: "Spare me the collectivist nonsense. Whatever unfairness one might perceive in self-identifying as a Generation-X'er or advantage misapplied to a "boomer," all such distinctions are interesting but essentially without much use or meaning."

We're all in this boat together, folks. We need to row together in one direction, and quit trying to foist blame for the current situation on just one generation of Americans.

37 posted on 03/05/2011 10:53:09 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ExtremeUnction

Rush had a fill in host monday who did not blame the boomers for screwing up the republic. He blamed their parents, the so called “greatest generation” for not instilling their values in their kids. They are the ones who have ruined this country.
While they saved us from hitler, stalin and the rising sun they sowed the seeds of our eventual defeat.


38 posted on 03/05/2011 10:53:53 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: Wanderer659
I've always wondered about the differences between people who were born on December 31 of the last year of one “generation” and those born on January 1 of the first year of the next “generation”. Hypothetically, there could be twins, one born at 11:57, an evil “Boomer”, the other born at 12:02, a noble “Gen-Xer”. Do they live their lives in perpetual hate and contempt for each other? Do the iron bonds of generational solidarity override their sibling love?

We're supposed to be divided; by economic status, by political beliefs, by conditions of employment, by region, by race, by our interests and hobbies, by whether we work for government or the private sector, even by what style clothes we wear and what sort of music we listen to. We're supposed to take these trivialities and use them to look at others by the standard of “us vs them”. We're supposed to magnify our differences and overlook our similarities. We're supposed to look for reasons to dislike others, rather than reasons to like others. I thought we were to view people as individuals and leave the group classifications to the Marxists.

Why should we really care about when a person is born? What matters is the individual qualities of that person, not his birthday.

39 posted on 03/05/2011 11:02:41 AM PST by Route797
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To: hillarys cankles

just my opinion, but all i see here is a buncha so-called, self-proclaimed “boomers,” generation-x, and ex-hippy generation badmouthing one another; actually, the damage was started and reinforced long before any of ya happened upon the scene and were later lead along by the marxist schools, hollyweird,the fourth estate, etc.

so there ya have it, plain and simple!

-an old fart
*****


40 posted on 03/05/2011 11:05:41 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: BenKenobi

You’ve got a point. The decline in middle class morals began in the 1960’s and 70’s. We set up a system to help the poor and it wound up destroying the poor family structure. Then, it bled over into the middle class. But the welfare programs of the 1930’s-60’s were written by The Greatests, not the boomers. The Greatests also took us to Vietnam, which gave the young boomers a reason to create a counter-culture and reject Christian morals.

Then, credit got easy and out of control materialism pumped up the economy for a while. The poor started seeing the good economy and demanding, “I want the same stuff that the middle class has”. The economy was good and the government could always borrow more, so no one had a reason to tell them no. The entitlements went from an emergency handout to get you back on your feet to a way of life for a sub-culture. Even today, the entitlements are never enough because someone always wants “mo stuff”.

Add to that the fact that automation and outsourcing has significantly reduced the need for workers, and you now throw a lot of the middle class into the entitlement class.

If you want to pare back entitlements now, you better be prepared for civil war. I’m not saying that we can’t do it. I agree with you that its essential to our survival, but we are all to blame for this and we’re all going to have to give up something to move forward. Blaming it all on the generation that is about to start dying off is the easy way out. The Greatests earned that title because of the sacrifices they made over a 4 year period. If we all face our current situation with honesty and a sense of shared sacrifice, we will be rememebered as the real Greatest Generation(s). If we don’t, there won’t be much of a nation left to curse us in the future.


41 posted on 03/05/2011 11:06:29 AM PST by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: Bryanw92

“The Greatests also took us to Vietnam, which gave the young boomers a reason to create a counter-culture and reject Christian morals.”

Blaming moral laxity on Vietnam is an excuse.

“If you want to pare back entitlements now, you better be prepared for civil war.”

There’s simply no other option. There are not enough of us to pay for everything that is being given. This means that entitlements need to be pared back, starting with public employees. If you want to look at blame, start with abortion and contraception. The whole Ponzi scheme only works with perpetually increasing demand.

“I’m not saying that we can’t do it. I agree with you that its essential to our survival, but we are all to blame for this and we’re all going to have to give up something to move forward.”

Agreed. I have enough problems fighting with MY generation, let alone annoying Boomer hippy idiots. Makes my job a difficult and lonely one when I get undercut by them. I have no problems doing without entitlements. I agree that pension benefits need to be scaled back.

However, what we are seeing is the consistant response of cutting wages and benefits for new hires only. What does that tell me? The entitled boomers will do all they can to hang onto their benefits and damn everybody else.

Everybody has to give up something. Not just young folks. Boomers too.


44 posted on 03/05/2011 11:14:50 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: ExtremeUnction

The boomers may be the largest voting block at the moment and can force the electorate to their will. But that won’t always be the case and they are slowly losing their influence as we speak because they are getting older and dying.

If they don’t wish to be part of the solution, they will be seen to be as part of the problem and they will be made to be part of the solution.


45 posted on 03/05/2011 11:16:42 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Wanderer659

Not clear on what the charges are against me. What did I do wrong?


46 posted on 03/05/2011 11:18:45 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: mjp

Perhaps the worst characteristic of the Selfish Left is in how carefully they insulate themselves from the policies they force the rest of us to suffer. ‘I live in the city, so who needs a dirty, poluting car when you can get others to pay for our light rail?’ ‘I chop wood for my designer $25K stove, so why should anyone be allowed to burn oil or coal for heat?’ ‘I have a $3500 bike to commute two miles to and from my job, so why is anyone allowed to own a car?’ ‘I love watching pretty dolphins from the porch of my $1.2M summer home in Seattle, so we have to stop all commercial fishing that might injure one.’ ‘Only the insane and Southerners want guns. Take them away before they hurt someone. Besides, our wealthy community’s private police force will protect us.’ Yuch.


47 posted on 03/05/2011 11:24:07 AM PST by pabianice
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To: ExtremeUnction; BenKenobi
They can whine all they want. It isn't going to help them. The Boomers are now the biggest voting block in the country. They will have no choice but to pay.

I think BenKenobi's point was that GenX has been paying for the disastrous policies they had nothing to do with for the last 13 years. But that is evidently not long enough for you?
48 posted on 03/05/2011 11:39:46 AM PST by saltlick
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To: Bryanw92
Just one caveat..............

Those who created the "counter culture" and led the way in taking drugs, revolting against everything and anything, etc., were far older, for the most part, than any of the mewling morons, who followed them. The likes of David Horowitz, Abbey Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, and Timothy Leary were not even "WAR BABIES" ( those children born in 1942-45 ), but born in the mid 1930s; with Leary born even earlier. Though I'll grant you that a few, a VERY few ( Billy Ayers, Mark Rudd, and that lot ) are early BOOMERS......these folks, as well as the older lot, with the exception of Tom Hayden, were all RED DIAPER BABIES.

As spoiled as some/many BOOMERS were/are, their children were spoiled even more!

The whinging GenXers, here, make BOOMERS ( of which I am not one )look like stoic ascetics !

49 posted on 03/05/2011 11:41:03 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Wanderer659
My parent’s generation spent the wealth that was so painfully earned by their parents. Then, they created failed program after failed program, all paid for with trillions of borrowed dollars. And when the programs were clearly failures, and, in fact, made things worse, they plodded on.

That would describe the PRE-Boomers, and even the generation before them. The basics of Big Government, i.e., FDR's New Deal and LBJ's Great Society, were NOT the product of Boomers (those born 1946-64).

50 posted on 03/05/2011 11:41:50 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Born March 7, 1953)
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