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Should U.S. Troops Continue To Stay in Afghanistan, Iraq?
Amerisrael ^

Posted on 03/06/2011 5:17:22 PM PST by Amerisrael

General_MacArthur_armytimes_com There is something very repugnant and offensive about U.S. troops being put in harms way to help prop up an Afghan government that has a Constitution based on Sharia law, that imposes the death penalty for "leaving Islam"/ Apostacy.

And this is becoming an all too frequent occurance in the "new democratic" Afghan government that our U.S. troops made possible, and our own government helped set up. 

Not to mention how our own U.S. military authorities bowed the knee in appeasement, confiscated Bibles from a U.S. soldier, [Bibles in the native language], and had them burned.

A matter that no doubt would have infuriated the late General Douglas MacArthur. How so one might ask?

Not long after the surrender of Japanese forces was accomplished in WWII, and the occupation commenced, MacArthur reached out to U.S. churches and called for thousands of Christian missionaries and the importation of millions of Bibles. In English and Japanese. 

Only a handful of missionaries from U.S. churches responded. Not the thousands requested.

Even so, there is the question of "why" MacArthur would make such a request:

In regards to the occupation of Iraq, former President G.W. Bush has repeatedly made the analogy, [false analogy], of how after the surrender of Japanese forces, and the following U.S. occupation, Japan then went on to embrace "democracy" and has since become a stalwart ally of the U.S.

But there are a couple of important aspects pertaining to the accomplished surrender of Japanese forces and the U.S. occupation that President Bush omits in his analogy:

One,- the military and citizens of Japan at that time were very much into "Emperor worship", or "leader worship".

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; democracy; islam; shariah

1 posted on 03/06/2011 5:17:29 PM PST by Amerisrael
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To: Amerisrael

No——just level their toilet nations instead. You are dealing with cultural and religious limitations. Just give them the “Carthage” treatment and lets go home for beer and volleyball.


2 posted on 03/06/2011 5:20:18 PM PST by Tea Party Reveler
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To: Amerisrael

Considering how quickly the entire region is going to h3ll, I’d say getting our troops out of there is a great idea.


3 posted on 03/06/2011 5:22:04 PM PST by chickadee
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To: Amerisrael

Since oblunder has their hands so tied with the current rules of engagement LEAVE! Leave them with enough AK ammo so they can just kill themselves.

Let them do the job American soldiers can’t do.


4 posted on 03/06/2011 5:22:28 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: Amerisrael

Get them out.

Now.

I can’t understand how any soldier could stand to salute the Obamat*rd.


5 posted on 03/06/2011 5:23:51 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Our troops should not be border patrol agents in Afghanistan only to be picked off one by one, they need to be brought home Solders fight wars when politicians tie their hands its time to get them out, “Afghanistan” is unwinnable when Pakistan will always continue to have an influx of new “extremists” that end up in the tribal areas(funded by Saudi’s and others), IF you want to spend money on Border patrol spend it on US Border Patrol.


6 posted on 03/06/2011 5:28:35 PM PST by BobSimons
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To: Da Coyote

well their guarding the poppy plants and the oil fields. This is very important stuff u know


7 posted on 03/06/2011 5:28:46 PM PST by truthbetold11 (truthbetold11)
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To: Amerisrael

No.


8 posted on 03/06/2011 5:30:52 PM PST by Mears
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To: Amerisrael
Since we don't have anyone in the White House who knows the first damn thing about fighting wars (or achieving victory), and the rules of engagement our brave people have to live by are literally suicidal, I want to see them pulled out.

Fight, or don't fight. There is only death for our people in the middle ground.

Bring them home, and put them on our southern border to stop the invasion of our own country. That is a worthwhile mission for our military.

9 posted on 03/06/2011 5:31:55 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: truthbetold11

We are broke Jim, time to regroup, tell all countries to fend for themselves except for Israel, and just tell the world if you attack us we nuke you and mean it...
soldiers out everywhere, welcome home!!!


10 posted on 03/06/2011 5:31:55 PM PST by aces
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To: BobSimons
aprox. US troops killed in Afghanistan in 8 Years under Bush
630


aprox. US Troops killed in Afghanistan Since 2 years of the Obama regime..
863

11 posted on 03/06/2011 5:33:26 PM PST by BobSimons
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To: Amerisrael

Maybe a little force in Iraq; Cut Afghans loose. No hope there for any measurable result.


12 posted on 03/06/2011 5:34:23 PM PST by joelt
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To: aces
...time to regroup, tell all countries to fend for themselves except for Israel, and just tell the world if you attack us we nuke you and mean it...soldiers out everywhere, welcome home!!!

I'm with you, aces. Enough, already. Our people are dying for NO good reason. This fight ceased to be an honorable one, a long time ago.

13 posted on 03/06/2011 5:35:11 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BobSimons

Bloody hell.... Obama is getting our people slaughtered!

Where is the MSM with this news, and the daily body counts?

(crickets....)

Jeez, I’m really angry now.


14 posted on 03/06/2011 5:37:12 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CPT Clay

Ping to post 11.

I can’t say what I’m thinking.


15 posted on 03/06/2011 5:38:41 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: diverteach

“Since oblunder has their hands so tied with the current rules of engagement LEAVE!”

YES!!!!


16 posted on 03/06/2011 5:40:50 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Amerisrael

Our troops should be pulled out now, not left as cannon fodder for jihadists. We definitely need to capture bin Laden but that should be a job for the CIA not the military. During the Cold War the CIA repeatedly toppled democratically elected socialist leaders in Latin America and replaced them with our thugs. If they can do that, they can certainly infiltrate al Qaeda and eventually get one of their agents close enough to kill/ capture bin Laden.


17 posted on 03/06/2011 5:41:19 PM PST by SoCal SoCon (Former liberal. I no longer answer to "Comrade". I answer to "Miss SoCal SoCon")
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To: Da Coyote

A soldier salutes the flag, my FRiend. Obozo is just a representative of that flag.

Hoorah!


18 posted on 03/06/2011 5:43:01 PM PST by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: Amerisrael

Just leave a trillion dollars in lithium and other metals for the Chinese to exploit?


19 posted on 03/06/2011 5:54:54 PM PST by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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To: SoCal SoCon

Bin Laden’s been dead for 10 years now.

Lets get our troops out, save some money state side and pay down this national debt. It is a far greater risk to our security then 7th century AFghans


20 posted on 03/06/2011 6:01:01 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Amerisrael

Hell no. Both wars were mistakes.


21 posted on 03/06/2011 6:02:35 PM PST by Huck (Mrs. Palin = Christine O'Donnell)
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To: Windflier

“I can’t say what I’m thinking.”

Better say what you think while you still can. Freedom of speech is indeed a use-it-or-lose-it matter.


22 posted on 03/06/2011 7:00:19 PM PST by Bazooka (When Tolerance met Indifference, it was love at first sight.)
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To: Bazooka
Better say what you think while you still can. Freedom of speech is indeed a use-it-or-lose-it matter.

Oh, I speak a'plenty, but there are some thoughts best kept to oneself.

23 posted on 03/06/2011 7:05:29 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Amerisrael

NOTICE TO ALL FOREIGN CITIZENS and THEIR GOVERNMENTS!
(EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY)

1. As a sovereign nation, you have the same rights to govern your nation as we have. Whether freely elected or despotic tyranny, how you run your government and DOMESTIC affairs is between you and your leaders. If you people don’t like how your government is behaving, we suggest you read some American history for the period between, say, 1774 and 1789. The world is awash in various sorts of small arms and other weapons. Getting enough to turn out your tyrant-du-jour ought not be a problem. Yes, many people will die (just as they did HERE in the late 1700s). It’s the price of freedom. But — and this is important to us — our SOLDIERS will not be among the dead. And even MORE importantly, MY kids and grandkids won’t be there. And trust us when we tell you that the casualties of your revolution will pale compared to those you will suffer should we be forced to invoke Clause 3!

2. Please pay SPECIAL attention to the word “domestic” in number 1.

3. The MINUTE we become privy to firm, corroborated intelligence that you have plans to harm the United States or one of our recognized allies — or, worst case — DO, in fact carry out such an operation, the United States and any such allies who wish to assist will come to you and request that you cease and desist. If you refuse to do so, we will TURN MOST OF YOUR LAND INTO A SMOKING RUIN. If you’ve never seen RUBBLE BOUNCE, it’s quite a sight. Just as the Japanese saw that in 1945, we saw a good bit of that on 9/11 – and will never forget it. The Japanese never forgot it – and neither will those of you who survive! We include in this list of threats AIDING, ABETTING, HARBORING, TRAINING OR SUPPLYING THOSE WHO, ALTHOUGH NOT CITIZENS OF YOUR NATION, MAKE PLANS TO HARM US OR AN ALLY.

We wish to live and have peaceful, honest and fair trade with all peoples — BUT harm us or injure/kill American/allied citizens AND YOUR WORLD AS YOU HAVE KNOWN IT WILL SIMPLY GO AWAY — FOREVER. No more PC “Nation Building” crap. Our military will be employed ONLY for those tasks for which they have been traditionally trained throughout history: TO KILL ENEMY TROOPS AND DESTROY ENOUGH OF THE ENEMY’S “STUFF” TO CAUSE THEM TO QUIT THE FIGHT. If some of you think we need “Nation Builders,” send in the UN — from which America will have withdrawn and “off-shored” to somewhere in Europe. (and good luck with these clowns).

(If you have never seen it, slide on down to Blockbuster and rent “The Day the Earth Stood Still” with Arabic/Farsi subtitles, of course. REREAD 3 AND THINK “GORT.”)

And also remember that, since we have pulled our guys out of other nations and closed those bases – horribly costly activities with which we are no longer burdened — we have devoted those diverted resources to new, more effective human intelligence gathering methods using many of YOUR citizens as paid snitches (no more stupid Church Amendment!) so we WILL KNOW when you’re up to no good. And don’t forget that those freed up resources will allow development of more devastating weapons should we need them. Trust us when we tell you that they’re really cool.

4. And speaking of “cool,” once those smoking ruins have sufficiently cooled – and the radiation levels have fallen — we will put boots on the ground, clear any remaining resistance and seize your former property for the benefit of those who participated in the neutralization of the threat you posed. Casualties among our troops should be very limited because, as we think you have seen, the weapons possessed by the United States will leave very few to resist. REREAD 4 AND THINK 51st STATE!

Call us with any QUESTIONS. Or visit our web site at www.bendoverandkissyourassgoodbye.gov

Thank you for your support in this vital matter.
The SANE People of the United States of America (all 30 of us).

Until this becomes our policy, we continue to honor those who have paid the ultimate price for the freedoms so many of us now take for granted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WDrbbtaO0E
A photo was recently posted on the web showing a white board in a Marine barracks in Iraq on which one trooper had written the following:
“America is NOT at war. The United States military is at war. America is at the MALL!”

Indeed!

PS: Once we rid ourselves of Obama and his thugs, we’re going to tap our OWN natural resources so we won’t be needing all that petroleum from the Middle East. You folks over there might want to accelerate your program to convert sand and oil into something edible. Later, dudes!!


24 posted on 03/06/2011 8:29:06 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Amerisrael

No, they should withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan, via Tehran.


25 posted on 03/06/2011 10:28:34 PM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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