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SCOTUS denies re-hearing of Hollister vs. Soetoro, Obama
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Posted on 03/07/2011 9:28:25 AM PST by charlie72

March 7, SCOTUS denies re-hearing of Hollister vs Soetoro with no comment.


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KEYWORDS: certifigate; hollister; naturalborncitizen; obama; supremecourt
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1 posted on 03/07/2011 9:28:28 AM PST by charlie72
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To: charlie72

The problem is that any halfway serious investigation into Obama will lead to questions, and these questions will be _very_ embarrassing and [criminally] incriminating of a LOT of people who are in the politically-elite class.


2 posted on 03/07/2011 9:42:47 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: charlie72

Wimps....I’ve lost all respect.


3 posted on 03/07/2011 9:43:09 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: charlie72

From the link:

REHEARINGS DENIED

10-678 HOLLISTER, GREGORY S. V. SOETORO, BARRY, ET AL


4 posted on 03/07/2011 9:45:13 AM PST by frog in a pot (We need a working definition of "domestic enemies" if the oath of office is to have meaning.)
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To: charlie72

Both Congress and the Supreme Court have abdicated their responsibility to insure we have an eligible President.
We don’t know if Sotomeyer and Kagan recused themselves, and if they did not they should be impeached for a conflict of interest.

Our dollar is being destroyed by Bernanke and Quantitative Easing to save the elite bankers and corrupt politicians.

How much more can we withstand before this stops? How do we stop it?


5 posted on 03/07/2011 9:48:32 AM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: rolling_stone

“How much more can we withstand before this stops? How do we stop it?”

The leftist freaks would have us believe the answer is to ramp up the hate against Republicans.


6 posted on 03/07/2011 9:53:59 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: rolling_stone

Even if the House and Senate agreed on impeachment (not likely), we can’t count on SCOTUS. However, when Dems realize they are going to lose badly in the next election, some may revolt. His failure to enforce DOMA and punishment of Black Panthers, along with high fuel and food prices may help convince some.

Obama knows he is going to lose and is getting bolder and more reckless. In September 2010 he renewed the national emergency powers given to Bush in 2001. When he shuts down the government, the dollar may crash, as well as our economy. The resulting riots and demonstrations or another manufactured crisis may result in declaring martial law.

Northcom and other military units are “fusing” with local police and ready to enforce his proclamations. He will be a military dictator. I don’t know whether this nation can keep its cool, when most realize we were betrayed, until 2012 elections (if allowed). What the world bankers foretold in the Mar. 12, 2008 secret meeting of Congress is coming to pass because of the treachery of the Democrat Party with aid from Republicans.


7 posted on 03/07/2011 10:12:57 AM PST by charlie72
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To: charlie72

i guess from this point forward we are a country of the lawless...no one has to follow the law!


8 posted on 03/07/2011 10:13:51 AM PST by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: charlie72

Bought and paid for cowards. What have they done but add fuel to the fire that will inevitably come if an usurper is allowed to sit in authority?


9 posted on 03/07/2011 10:13:53 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: All; Admin Moderator; jabber; butterdezillion

What happened to “’Birther’ Bill Is Fringe Of The Fringe”


10 posted on 03/07/2011 10:16:16 AM PST by bvw
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To: charlie72

if we had the electon today nobama would win...if it were 2012...he would win...we have become a country where half of the voters (notice i didn’t say citizens) are idiots and gladhanders...and are dependent on the fed and state doles!


11 posted on 03/07/2011 10:18:26 AM PST by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: rolling_stone
Both Congress and the Supreme Court have abdicated their responsibility to insure we have an eligible President

Congress exercised its responsibility on January 8, 2009 when they certified the vote - without objection - and when the certification was signed by Richard Cheney of Wyoming.

The Supreme Court has NOTHING TO DO with elections or with the conduct of Congress' mandated responsibilities - and God forbid they ever claim any such power.

12 posted on 03/07/2011 10:22:21 AM PST by Jim Noble (I'd crawl over broken glass for her. Alea iacta est.)
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To: charlie72

It seems lately that all of FreeRepublic has now become a “birther” site.


13 posted on 03/07/2011 10:29:44 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: charlie72

It seems lately that all of FreeRepublic has now become a “birther” site.


14 posted on 03/07/2011 10:30:00 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: tirednvirginia

Apologies for the double post.


15 posted on 03/07/2011 10:31:58 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: tirednvirginia

“It seems lately that all of FreeRepublic has now become a “birther” site”.

People here believe in the Constitution, and we want it enforced. Good Luck, & I hope that helps.


16 posted on 03/07/2011 10:39:45 AM PST by stickywillie
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To: rolling_stone

Wasn’t the court required to respond to the petition/motion (I don’t know the legal language) for Kagan and Sotomayor to recuse themselves? Did they respond to that?


17 posted on 03/07/2011 10:42:19 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: OneWingedShark

Kagan the perv recused herself on some other cases but not on Hollister.

The SCOTUS is now irrelevant and useless.


18 posted on 03/07/2011 10:43:37 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: charlie72

One federal judge who ruled on an Obama eligibility lawsuit put it very succinctly: “Plaintiffs attempt to subvert this grant of power to Congress by convincing the Court that it should disregard the constitutional procedures in place for the removal of a sitting President. The process for removal of a sitting president-REMOVAL FOR ANY REASON— is within the province of Congress, not the Courts.”—US District Court Judge David O Carter, Barnett, et. al. v Obama, 10/29/09
Since that decision, no Court, in scores of attempts, including 13 attempts at the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled any differently from Judge Carter.


19 posted on 03/07/2011 10:45:03 AM PST by jamese777
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To: ldish
i guess from this point forward we are a country of the lawless...no one has to follow the law!

That's not true; you and I have to follow the law*... otherwise we will feel the full wrath of the government.
* Both _actual_ law and "because we say it is" law (which things like the BATFE are founded on).

20 posted on 03/07/2011 10:57:15 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: butterdezillion

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/10-678.htm

There is no update on the SCOTUS site. So I am not believing this post at all. SCOTUSBlog is a leftist site.

I also do not see anything on SCOTUSBlog that says that it has been denied. I have called SCOTUS twice today in an attempt to reach the Clerk’s office, but haven’t been able to get through. So until I hear confirmation of this, I am not taking it as 100% truth, though, I tend to believe that this will indeed be the case.

I have little faith in this court to take up this matter.
Thomas has already said they are avoiding it. The Bastards.


21 posted on 03/07/2011 11:01:35 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae

(ORDER LIST: 562 U.S.)
MONDAY, MARCH 7, 2011
REHEARINGS DENIED
10-678 HOLLISTER, GREGORY S. V. SOETORO, BARRY, ET AL.


22 posted on 03/07/2011 11:06:02 AM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: jamese777

On the statement by Judge Donald Carter: In all the hearings previous, he was really zipping along toward an airing of eligibility issues, granting standing to the petitioners. Then he suddenly reversed, and OBTW, had acquired a new law clerk from the defendant’s then counsel, Perkins Coie (Seattle.) And, if memory serves, this particular clerk had an unusual credential an African background perhaps Kenyan, not African-American, African.


23 posted on 03/07/2011 11:07:07 AM PST by masadaman
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To: rolling_stone

Yeah, I just got the update. http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/10-678.htm

There is no United States of America now. The Constitution is dead.


24 posted on 03/07/2011 11:09:52 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Jim Noble

Article III of the US Constitution says the judiciary is given the responsibility of deciding any cases resulting from the US Constitution or the law.

The US Constitution says that there are certain requirements for anybody who is even ELIGIBLE to be POTUS. If there is a case arising out of the Constitution’s requirements for eligibility, the correct mode for people to “petition the government for a redress of grievances” (a First Amendment right) to decide that CASE is the judiciary, which includes SCOTUS.

Congress has no power to decide legal cases. They are totally irrelevant to this discussion.


25 posted on 03/07/2011 11:16:17 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: tirednvirginia

You mean:

It seems lately that all of FreeRepublic has now become a site concerned with upholding the Constitution.


26 posted on 03/07/2011 11:22:39 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: jamese777

Corrections with apologies:
1. Judge is David not Donald Carter.

2. New clerk for the case, Sidhartha Valendra (sp.?) is not from Kenya.


27 posted on 03/07/2011 11:23:19 AM PST by masadaman
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To: rolling_stone

If SCOTUS did not properly respond to the plaintiff’s motion for Kagan and Sotomayor to recuse themselves, then doesn’t the case just remain in the same condition it was before? Until that motion gets a response, the case remains open, right?

Does anybody know about that? The whole reason to file for a re-hearing is because the motion didn’t get a response. SCOTUS has to respond to that motion, don’t they? They can answer other questions (like whether they will re-hear the case) as many times as they want but until they actually rule on the motion in question they’ve just wasted a bunch of time without ever resolving this case, I would think.

Is that right?

I’m off to work, but would appreciate the input of anybody who knows anything about that, and I’ll see it when I get back home.


28 posted on 03/07/2011 11:25:46 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Danae

Curtain closed in this Act.

There’s another Act in this play. A few, probably.


29 posted on 03/07/2011 11:33:17 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: butterdezillion
butterdezillion, I respect all of your work on this matter tremendously.

But the process to put someone in the Presidency is political from beginning to end, deliberately, by design.

You are correct that the USSC may decide "cases arising under this Constitution". But the USSC has never defined this question as a "case", and, in my opinion, they will not (and should not) do so.

The courts do not decide political questions. The whole elaborate ritual of opening and counting the sealed votes in front of the sitting VP and every Senator and Member of Congress was designed to emphasize the entirely political nature of the process.

And, lest you think I am defending "Obama" or his interests, I am not.

That a person such as the man who calls himself "Obama" could have been chosen to be President is a symptom of very, very deep-seated problems, problems which me may well not survive.

The Supreme Court, however, has already amassed (much) too much power. They should not be accorded the power to dismiss a President.

That's our job in the first instance (by not electing him) and Congress' job secondarily.

Should it be necessary to remove him by extraconstitutional or even extralegal means, the harm tha would be visited on this land would be, in my view, extreme. I pray that that will not become necessary.

It is my view that the USSC is correct is avoiding this, the ultimate political question. We have to resolve it ourselves, or live with the consequences.

30 posted on 03/07/2011 11:37:29 AM PST by Jim Noble (I'd crawl over broken glass for her. Alea iacta est.)
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To: masadaman
2. New clerk for the case, Sidhartha Valendra (sp.?) is not from Kenya.

But Obama may be from Kenya, we don't know for sure.

31 posted on 03/07/2011 11:43:27 AM PST by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: butterdezillion

.......these guys and gals on the Supreme Court are just plain ole human beings like the rest of us except, for the most part, they are more highly educated and experienced in the law, ergo, they are not idiots and know EXACTLY what they are doing.

So, the fact that they have turned down this case 13 times means ITS OVER! As Justice Thomas said, they are scared of this case. So are our legislators and if they became 100% Republican nothing would change. It’s almost to the point I think where some of us just hope the government does shut down completely because “our system” is broke and “nothing else” will FIX IT !!! Then, we can sort it all out from there. So, in my humble opinion, and I’m just one man, “to hell with the status quo, shut it down and then “pay U.S. bills by priority”..............like the rest of us!......and then when all the money is gone............so be it!


32 posted on 03/07/2011 11:44:37 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Jim Noble

So in other words, the king can do no wrong.

I don’t agree with your position.


33 posted on 03/07/2011 11:48:00 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: charlie72
The Supreme Court would be crazy to get involved in this kind of case. The justices know that if the GOP wanted to pursue these issues, the House of Representatives would subpoena the Hawaiian birth records. The justices know that if the Republicans don't want to pursue these issues and the Democrats don't want to pursue these issues, they might be impeached by both parties if they try to pursue these issues.

I have doubts about Obama's qualifications and I think the issues should be pursued, but it has become absolutely clear to me that the GOP feels that this matter is a dry well.

It's not the court's job to run this country, thankfully.

34 posted on 03/07/2011 11:57:47 AM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: butterdezillion
-- Is that right? --

For this case, hearing the case at all is discretionary on the part of SCOTUS (just as a general procedural matter, a case being heard by a District Court, then reviewed by a higher appellate court, has run its course - SCOTUS may take the case from the reviewing court, but that is a discretionary choice. Not so with the first appellate court, that court MUST take the case).

Anyway, at SCOTUS, a Motion for Rehearing is available as a matter of right; but SCOTUS can reject the Motion. This "Motion for Rehearing" activity also goes on after a reviewing court decides a case.

35 posted on 03/07/2011 11:58:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Walts Ice Pick

So evil leftists and compromised eunuchs run the country.

And both the judicial and legislative branches (what to speak of executive) s*** on the Constitution.


36 posted on 03/07/2011 12:05:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: butterdezillion
-- SCOTUS has to respond to that motion, don't they? --

Yes, and it did. It denied the motion. Not unusual, most cases presented to SCOTUS are disposed of in one line responses, "Cert. denied."

37 posted on 03/07/2011 12:06:55 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: little jeremiah
So evil leftists and compromised eunuchs run the country.

Well, I don't know about that. Take Chairman Issa, for example. He's certainly no leftist. He has the power to subpoena all of the Hawaiian birth records anytime he wants. No court will deny that Issa has that power, if he chooses to use it.

So, why doesn't Issa subpoena these materials? Good question. Some people thinks Issa views us "birthers" at nutcases and he doesn't want to be associated with us. Other people think he's been compromised by events in his past and is being blackmailed.

I don't know the answer(s) to why the GOP has dropped the ball on this issue, but clearly it isn't going to pursue this matter. I know that, you know that, and the Court knows that.

38 posted on 03/07/2011 12:15:21 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: charlie72
Well, heck.
39 posted on 03/07/2011 12:22:37 PM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (The truth can indeed be a finger-down-the-throat for those unprepared to hear it.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

“Us”?

1. Eunuchs - scared little wabbits.

2. RINOs who agree with globailst socialism but are “lite”.

3. Compromised in some way.

There is no other alternative.


40 posted on 03/07/2011 12:37:39 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: masadaman

On the statement by Judge Donald Carter: In all the hearings previous, he was really zipping along toward an airing of eligibility issues, granting standing to the petitioners. Then he suddenly reversed, and OBTW, had acquired a new law clerk from the defendant’s then counsel, Perkins Coie (Seattle.) And, if memory serves, this particular clerk had an unusual credential an African background perhaps Kenyan, not African-American, African.


That might be significant if it weren’t for the fact that 90 other Courts have ruled the exact same way as Judge Carter including, now 13 denials at the Supreme Court.

Judge Carter’s ruling is still pending on appeal before the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals.


41 posted on 03/07/2011 12:48:22 PM PST by jamese777
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To: little jeremiah

I think you’ve arrived at an accurate view of this matter.


42 posted on 03/07/2011 12:51:58 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Walts Ice Pick
The Supreme Court would be crazy to get involved in this kind of case.

Who besides the SCOTUS has any jurisdiction in this eligibility question?

43 posted on 03/07/2011 12:57:23 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: charlie72
The Supreme Court will not accept any of these cases. They feel it is the states, claiming opponents, or Congress themselves who have the ultimate authority in quo warranto cases against a sitting usurper. Although many here will disagree with this, it is what it is and we must be prepared for their opinions.

That being said, they should have submitted the case for review by the Attorney General, considering it contained a criminal complaint with valid evidence a crime was and still is being committed.

This is where the courts are failing in their duties. Not surprising. It has been going on for decades.

44 posted on 03/07/2011 1:00:58 PM PST by devattel
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To: FatherofFive


Who besides the SCOTUS has any jurisdiction in this eligibility question?

Congress does. They will not act unless it is so obvious a 3 year old child knows the answer.

However, should one state pass an eligibility bill, the Supreme Court, or Congress, will be forced to act. Show your continued support for the Constitution by supporting your state representatives and senators on these initiatives.
45 posted on 03/07/2011 1:05:49 PM PST by devattel
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To: FatherofFive
Who besides the SCOTUS has any jurisdiction in this eligibility question?

"The House of Representatives . . . shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

A lack of constitntional qualifications is a basis for impeachment and upon conviction, removal from office.

There isn't any other constitutional way to remove a healthy and living president from office, for any reason. Period.

46 posted on 03/07/2011 1:27:10 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: jamese777
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47 posted on 03/07/2011 1:47:29 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Jim Noble

To be a “political question” in terms of the judiciary, the Constitution has to directly and specifically give the job to a different branch of the government. Where does the Constitution ever give any other branch the job of determining who is or isn’t eligible to be President? Specific reference, please.

If a political process (other than the political process of amending the Constitution) nullifies the Constitution then we are not a Constitutional republic.


48 posted on 03/07/2011 1:59:54 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: bushpilot1
Why does James777 get a personalized “Site Pest JPG” while I just get a generic one?

My feelings are hurt. I guess I'll have to try harder.

49 posted on 03/07/2011 2:00:02 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Cboldt

It denied the motion for Kagan and Sotomayor to recuse themselves? Can you show me where they responded specifically to that motion - as opposed to simply denying the request to re-consider the case?

The only reason the case could be re-filed was because the court never gave a legal response to the motion for Kagan and Sotomayor to recuse themselves. When was that motion specifically answered?


50 posted on 03/07/2011 2:27:37 PM PST by butterdezillion
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