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Obama And Simpsonís Paradox
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=3592 ^ | William M Briggs

Posted on 03/12/2011 7:15:17 AM PST by mattstat

Mr Obama, in his radio address of today (which your intrepid reporter caught a portion of) said, “Today, women still earn on average only about 75 cents for every dollar a man earns. That’s a huge discrepancy.” He called this “troubling.” He also told us that March is women’s month. Oops: it’s National Women’s Month. (Men don’t get a month.)

Mr Obama’s statistics are faulty. I have done the numbers myself and can report that, within a job and age-matched with men, women not only earn as much as men, but sometimes more (on average). Particularly, women entering the workforce now earn more than men on average in most career fields. Yes, even engineering. At the very top, where gray hair abounds, men still, on average, have an edge. But the wrinklies are old and getting older and will be replaced by higher-earning women.

Another reason for the supposed “discrepancy” is that women do not enter the job force in the same proportion as men, but they are increasing that proportion. Thus, some fields are seeing dramatic increases in women; and, since these women are new employees, they tend to earn less than the older employees, who are more likely to be male.

Thus, Mr Obama, while quoting a (more or less) accurate statistic gave it the wrong interpretation; and not just the wrong interpretation, but one that is exactly the opposite of the truth. But one well in line with his call for more taxing, spending, and regulation to “correct the balance.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wmbriggs.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; jobs; obama; pay

1 posted on 03/12/2011 7:15:24 AM PST by mattstat
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To: mattstat

BO failed to mention that under his punishing rule, women have stayed employed at a higher rate than men, who have borne the brunt of the unemployment caused by his lack of business experience. But the Marxist community organizer probably is gloating at sticking it to his betters since he is our Victim-in-Chief.


2 posted on 03/12/2011 7:20:59 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

The rate of women in college, women with degrees and special fields for ONLY WOMEN with the higher academics, belies the fact that it is men who are discriminated against. There is something like a 53% - 47% split with women the majority.


3 posted on 03/12/2011 7:23:58 AM PST by runninglips (government debt = slavery of the masses)
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To: mattstat

I have never worked in a place where women got a different hourly rate than men.

However, when a woman takes a quarter of the year off to have a baby, and take her medical leave, when she comes back she gets 3/4’s of the same rate of raise as a man.

If she has three kids, I can see where the math works against them.

HOWEVER, I could never understand why people (men and women) would think they should get a full raise based on the fact they were home for a quarter of the year. They shouldn’t lose their job, and I don’t have a problem with them having babies, but they are also not contributing to the success of the company when they are gone.

We always welcome them back and I love having someone fully trained and ready to go when they arrive back. But, in our case, they collected a partial salary when they were out.

As a man I cannot do that.

So, I vote to give them equal raises if I get to take 26 weeks off, with reduced pay, during the period from age 25 to 40.

Deal?


4 posted on 03/12/2011 7:25:41 AM PST by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: mattstat

This isn’t about statistics. The statistics have been debunked many times, and show objectively that for age, education, and experience adjusted equivalent jobs, there is no difference.

This is about appealing to a victim-based interest group, regardless of whether or not there is any valid issue. What bigger interest group can you get than 50% of the population? The problem is, the asshat can say these things using the bully pulpit of the Presidency and free air time. It’s all about the votes.


5 posted on 03/12/2011 7:27:43 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: mattstat

6 posted on 03/12/2011 7:28:30 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vermont Lt

“We always welcome them back and I love having someone fully trained and ready to go when...”

On the rotating-shift factory floor, we always cover for ‘em, with overtime, extra effort, and temps, and we also welcome ‘em back, but about a third don’t stay very long after coming back. Either they’re pregnant again, and often quite pleased with their condition, or they’re just plain gone.


7 posted on 03/12/2011 7:30:24 AM PST by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: mattstat

My wife works 24/7 as a stay-at-home-mom with our 2 young kids and gets paid 100% less than I do. I must be evil.


8 posted on 03/12/2011 7:30:43 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: mattstat
(Men don’t get a month.)

Straight, white, christian males don't get anything except all the blame.

9 posted on 03/12/2011 7:32:38 AM PST by CPOSharky (After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Agreed 100%... it is totally illegal these days to discriminate against chicks in the workplace. So what's this regime's beef? Of course we all know the answer to that.

This just illustrate the most hilarious irony about left-wing feminazism. These chicks like to claim they are 100% equal to men, and can do anything we guys can do. But yet, they insist that the government steps in and provide all these benefits that benefit these "independent" women. Men (especially us straight, whitey, Christian men) do not get any help from the government with anything... if chicks truly want to be "equal" then they can work the same way we have to.

But on top of that... I always get a chuckle when these chicks complain about "difficulties" in the workplace and how the government must force employers to adapt to their needs. If these chicks can do the same exact things as men, then no special accommodations are needed.

10 posted on 03/12/2011 7:39:42 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: mattstat; 50mm; Larry Lucido; humblegunner
From a thread you started on December 30, 2010:

"OK, thanks. I wasn’t aware of this when I ran into the 300-word limit. I assumed that it was for all blog content. So I apologize for my misunderstanding and it won’t happen again."

That post was from you, written to me, on the subject of excerpting your own work on FreeRepublic.

So, either you've got a really short memory, or you were being disingenuous and are really just a pimp at heart.

Which is it?
11 posted on 03/12/2011 7:41:37 AM PST by shibumi (I am The Nexus One - I want more life, Baby I aint done!)
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To: mattstat
“Today, women still earn on average only about 75 cents for every dollar a man earns. That’s a huge discrepancy.” He called this “troubling.”

What happened? Did I fall asleep and wake up 40 years ago?

12 posted on 03/12/2011 7:44:22 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: mattstat
Mr Obama said, “Today, women still earn on average only about 75 cents for every dollar a man earns. That’s a huge discrepancy.” He called this “troubling.”


"Uh-huh. You KNOW it."

13 posted on 03/12/2011 7:48:30 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: mattstat
Thus, Mr Obama, while quoting a (more or less) accurate statistic gave it the wrong interpretation; and not just the wrong interpretation, but one that is exactly the opposite of the truth.

That's the key to translating Obonics into English. Take whatever he says and reverse it a la Willy Wonka.

14 posted on 03/12/2011 7:50:13 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: mattstat
Facts do not matter to communist street agitators.

15 posted on 03/12/2011 7:51:47 AM PST by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: shibumi; mattstat

Single source thread posting is a dead giveaway.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:mattstat/index?tab=articles

Blogpimp.


16 posted on 03/12/2011 8:00:44 AM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: pnh102

Suggest that it would be better for the mom to stay home with the kids. I dare ya. I double dog date you!

They would crucify you, kill your family, and bulldoze your house. You would cease to exist!

//sarcasm.

My wife took ten years off to raise our two kids. As she says, “she lost her place in line” career wise. But our kids are great. Worth every penny we “lost.”

Of course, we are married and we plan to stay that way.


17 posted on 03/12/2011 8:01:16 AM PST by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: mattstat
“Today, women still earn on average only about 75 cents for every dollar a man earns. That’s a huge discrepancy.”

Is is just possible that 50% of the population is female and of those working perhaps up to 50% of the female work force goes in and out of pregnacy? Might that detract from their continuous earnings, say compared to a male who stays on the job everyday of the year, year in and year out for their lifetime?
18 posted on 03/12/2011 8:06:37 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: mattstat

This 75 cents on the dollar thing is a total lie.

Men work more hours. Men work more lucrative jobs. Men work more dangerous jobs.

Even in professions such as lawyer or doctor, women work fewer hours.

The shortage of doctors we have in the USSA is partly attributable to the increase in the number of women doctors.

They took a seat that would have gone to a man. Then when she gets the degree, she is more likely to work part time or quit to raise her kids.

More of the fallout from the marxist feminist revolution.


19 posted on 03/12/2011 8:18:19 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: Cheerio
say compared to a male who stays on the job everyday of the year, year in and year out for their lifetime?

Not to mention that salaried males are generally expected to work very long work weeks that females with children aren't, so men are compensated with larger salaries for more work done but the calculation is only done assuming a 40 hour work week so the comparison isn't fair to begin with.

20 posted on 03/12/2011 8:20:35 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: mattstat

“Thus, Mr Obama, while quoting a (more or less) accurate statistic”

Considering this same statistic has been offered by feminists, unchanged and without attribution, for decades, I’d say it’s definitely less than accurate.


21 posted on 03/12/2011 9:18:42 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: mattstat; shibumi
That post was from you, written to me, on the subject of excerpting your own work on FreeRepublic.

Looks like another blogpimp who can't be trusted. I'm shocked.

22 posted on 03/12/2011 9:20:26 AM PST by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: shibumi; 50mm; Larry Lucido; humblegunner

“shibumi”,

This post was the entire article and was not an excerpt. This post was solely about Mr Obama’s misused of wage statistics. It is true that I placed that post elsewhere, and not just on FreeRepublic, but why this should bother you puzzles me.

I am not a psychologist and so cannot intelligently comment on your compulsive behavior to count words in FreeRepublic posts. But if you have anything interesting or worthwhile to say about Mr Obama’s flagrantly incorrect statistics, I’d be happy to discuss them.


23 posted on 03/16/2011 6:55:05 AM PDT by mattstat
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To: mattstat
This post was the entire article and was not an excerpt.

Interesting.

(Excerpt) Read more at wmbriggs.com ...

24 posted on 03/16/2011 6:57:28 AM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: humblegunner

Yes, I must have (of old habit) clicked the “Excerpt” button. A mistake. I apologize for this.

However, if you are of a legal bent, and have plenty of time to waste on trivia, please compare the post here and the copy. You will find they are identical.


25 posted on 03/16/2011 7:02:28 AM PDT by mattstat
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To: mattstat; humblegunner
"I am not a psychologist and so cannot intelligently comment on your compulsive behavior to count words in FreeRepublic posts."

Nor can I comment on your praeturnatural ability to discern motives and behavior not born out by any text or comment on this thread.
26 posted on 03/16/2011 8:34:40 AM PDT by shibumi (Proudly and boldly posting without reading either the article or comments!)
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