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“I would be honored to have her as my Commander in Chief” (WOW! Bobby, US ARMY ret on Palin)
conservatives4palin ^ | Tuesday March 15, 2011

Posted on 03/15/2011 8:49:35 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

Jonathan Martin stirred up a hornet’s nest with his regular hit piece on Sarah Palin. But an answer from the heart came from “Bobby, US ARMY ret” in the comments section at The Right Scoop:

"She is “divisive” because the conservative movement is full of cowards who bend over because they are afraid of the left and the media. Why not fight against the smears? Why not fight for the truth? Instead conservatives run and hide and then wonder why even after 8 years of BUSH the country moved to the left!!!!!!!

While Governor, her state was one of 2 out of 50 that created net jobs. I COULD WRITE FOR HOURS ABOUT HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS, but it would not do a damn thing for people like Krauthammer and other fraud cowardly so called conservatives. How come the other intellectual governors that Krauthammer praises could not eke out some job gains? Odd huh?

WAKE UP!!!! Do you want to know why the jobs are gone? Do you want to to know why your nation is turning into a S*** hole? IT IS BECAUSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. We let it happen. WE CONSERVATIVES LET IT HAPPEN BECAUSE WE SAT ON OUR F****** ASSES AND REFUSED TO FIGHT the left for the last 20+ years.

Now Sarah is ready to fight, and most of us just let her go out there with no backup, no nothing. She is used as a human shield for LESSER MEN. She is fighting multibillion dollar left wing media companies and two hack political parties every F****** day of her life, and we cannot even muster a defense with the exception of a few websites and the OCCASIONAL defense on talk radio. PATHETIC.

I served in Korea and Vietnam in combat. When I say combat, I mean COMBAT. After that, I worked for the government “unofficially” (use your imagination.) I killed with my bare hands for this country and it makes me sick that even most of my fellow conservatives will not lift a finger to help her. If I was younger and still serving I would be honored to have her as my commander in chief. You can keep the phony tough guy men that get trotted out as candidates. I saw REAL leadership up close and I know what it looks like. Sarah Palin has “IT.”

I saw men blown to pieces and other men who still ran forward with the entrails of their best friends still on them. My oh my, how far we have fallen. Those boys had integrity and valor. Today’s conservative movement by and large is not fit to shine their F****** shoes.”

The state of our conservative movement today sickens me. It is full of frauds and cowards. We cower in fear because the media is too mean and unfair to Sarah Palin, so we should just throw her over the f****** side because ITS TOO HARD to fight back. AWWWW, poor babies. It would be so much easier to just nominate another fraud republican who can sell us down the river for a few pieces of silver as the country continues to move left as we descend into European Socialism.

As far as coward Charles Krauthammer goes….The day I take advice on conservatism from a guy who worked for Mondale and Carter is the day I put a loaded .357 in my mouth and pull the f****** trigger! That clear enough or should I use more big words to be on the same “intellectual stage” as the media elites?

These cowards remind of the guys in battle who said “we can’t win,” and then NEVER LIFTED A FINGER TO HELP US when the battle began. Well yeah no thanks to you! Please commence the flogging of me. Call me every name in the book. When you have been through what I have, there is nothing anyone can ever do to harm me. I pray you young people wake up because the cold hard truth is that you have more than likely already lost your nation to a secular decline that is irreversible. There is a chance for you to save it, but from the looks of it, you don’t have the mental fortitude to make it happen.

Cut all the bulls*it and ask yourself this honest question. DO YOU REALLY THINK THIS NATION WILL BE SAVED AND PUT BACK ON THE COURSE OF TRUTH, JUSTICE, and OPPORTUNITY by electing the same tired old political hacks that our media betters APPROVE OF? DO YOU REALLY?

How has that worked out for you these past 20 years or so? More debt, more joblessness, more danger. WOW SIGN ME UP! SIGH. But yeah, let’s not even fight for a true conservative. It’s too hard.

Bobby, US ARMY ret


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Well said bobby on the state of conservatism.
1 posted on 03/15/2011 8:49:42 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: johncocktoasten; Maine Mariner; Candor7; FlashBack; athelass; Tina Grazier; exit82; ...
(((((PING)))))
2 posted on 03/15/2011 8:53:38 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Bobby shouldn’t have sugar coated it.


3 posted on 03/15/2011 8:58:45 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Bigtigermike

RESPECT!


4 posted on 03/15/2011 9:00:24 AM PDT by ABQHispConservative (Fire all the damn rino!)
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To: Bigtigermike

So respect the way Bobby expesses his opinion.


5 posted on 03/15/2011 9:00:50 AM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
"Please commence the flogging of me. Call me every name in the book."

Attack you? Honey, if it weren't for my hubby, I'd marry you.

6 posted on 03/15/2011 9:01:18 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Bigtigermike

tnx for posting this. Maybe JR will post it on the home page of FR....


7 posted on 03/15/2011 9:01:18 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: Bigtigermike

The man is 100% right, and he has earned the right to say it any way he pleases.


8 posted on 03/15/2011 9:06:06 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Can you ping Bobby to this thread? Do you know whether he’s already a FReeper?


9 posted on 03/15/2011 9:06:44 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Bigtigermike
We have Air Force, Navy including Special Forces in our family and they have all said they would serve with pride as Gov Palin as their commander.
My Air Force family has said they talk among themselves about what it would like to serve under her. They have told me there are hushed whispers against Obama. At first I didn't believe them but I am beginning to.
10 posted on 03/15/2011 9:07:08 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Bigtigermike

I like this guy.


11 posted on 03/15/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Wow ,nice Job from a real Warrior.


12 posted on 03/15/2011 9:08:07 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Excellent!!!!


13 posted on 03/15/2011 9:08:28 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: Bigtigermike; Springman
You're right on target Bobby. Rush, please read at least parts of this on the air.
14 posted on 03/15/2011 9:08:32 AM PDT by McGruff (Is it time to Drill Baby Drill yet?)
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To: Bigtigermike
Thank you for being so right. You have said much of what I have said in private in my old Navy language. F__K King Obama and his communists rotten bee hive of real shi!. Damn, I wish I could let go!!!!

Sarah Palin for President. Dump the old guard.

15 posted on 03/15/2011 9:09:17 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Bigtigermike

Well Said!!!!

Rush cannot understand why so many “conservative” men hate Sarah Palin they way they do and neither can I. The only thing I’ve ever been able to figure out is Sarah Palin really makes many of the so called conservative men look like foolish wimps.


17 posted on 03/15/2011 9:09:37 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: svcw

Why would you not believe them?


18 posted on 03/15/2011 9:17:34 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Bigtigermike
Standing clapping. Good job. I agree with you. Political correctness and so called social justice is gutting America of what made it great. Day by day and incrementally. God help us, we are yielding to socialism, communist, tyranny and corruption.

Sarah has guts. She is smart and she sees clearly. All Presidents have advisers, and cabinet members to inform them and advise them. She is willing to make the hard call. She is brave, she is unafraid to call it like it is. Thank God for sending Sarah Palin. Give us strength and bind the evil intended for America, in Jesus name amen. MO

19 posted on 03/15/2011 9:20:43 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s sad this guy doesn’t have any real conviction. /s


20 posted on 03/15/2011 9:23:23 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: editor-surveyor

May be not so much that, but that it is happening. I don’t know really. I do now. If its happening in the Air Force branch it must be happening in the other branches as well.


21 posted on 03/15/2011 9:24:48 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Bigtigermike

Wow! Well said, it is time to stand and deliver America.
Thank You sir!


22 posted on 03/15/2011 9:25:22 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (For government to give anyone a benefit they must first take it from someone else.)
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To: Bigtigermike
She is used as a human shield for LESSER MEN

True, and gut-wrenchingly embarrassing. The people of Booby's generation were raised differently than many of us were. Freedom extracts a price, and cowardice is no more than the unwillingness to pay that price. May God grant us new courage to roll up our sleeves and get into the fight and pay what ever price we have to for our freedom.

23 posted on 03/15/2011 9:25:34 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Great post - thanks.


24 posted on 03/15/2011 9:26:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: Springfield Reformer

/Bobby/ Argh! Just awful. Forgot to spell-check. Sorry ...


25 posted on 03/15/2011 9:26:54 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Bigtigermike

bttt


26 posted on 03/15/2011 9:29:02 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: Bigtigermike

couldn’t have said it better myself BUMP


27 posted on 03/15/2011 9:30:06 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (Happy New Year. As of 3/15/11, 601 days until regime change in America. (November 6 2012))
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To: Bigtigermike

She’s had my vote ever since she came out on stage at the Nutter Center and was announced as the VP pick. Too bad the Presidential candidate was McLame.


28 posted on 03/15/2011 9:34:19 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: Bigtigermike
I saw REAL leadership up close and I know what it looks like. Sarah Palin has “IT.”

Even without "Bobby's" awesome history, I do share and swear to this part.

29 posted on 03/15/2011 9:37:40 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Bigtigermike

Fun exercise for those who are horrified by Sarah Palin: Sarah Palin would make a poor President *because* ........... Fill in the blank, please. Thanks, Bob


30 posted on 03/15/2011 9:47:46 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("I don't wanna think. Just leave me here to drink, wrapped up in the warmth of New York City." Al S.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Bobby, may I suggest you take the same “anger management” pills regularly consumed by John Boehner and Eric Cantor? That’s MUUUU.....CCCH better. Bob


31 posted on 03/15/2011 9:51:01 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("I don't wanna think. Just leave me here to drink, wrapped up in the warmth of New York City." Al S.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Thank you for your service and sacrifices, Bobby, and thank you for your letter that lays the truth and reality out there with such force that even the complete idiots,liars and cowardly elite at the top of our party will have to recognize themselves and the disaster for which they are totally responsible.
32 posted on 03/15/2011 9:52:07 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (America is ailin' and the one and ONLY cure is Palin.)
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To: Bigtigermike

PING!


33 posted on 03/15/2011 10:07:20 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose
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To: Bigtigermike

Well said!


34 posted on 03/15/2011 10:17:31 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Bigtigermike

RESPECT.


35 posted on 03/15/2011 10:21:40 AM PDT by Gargantua (Palin ~ 2012... "Going Oval")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; pissant

I liked every word.

So pissant, is this just another Palin “cult” member?

Palin 2012.... period.


36 posted on 03/15/2011 10:28:23 AM PDT by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: heshtesh
So respect the way Bobby expresses his opinion.

Yeah, a real coalition-builder.

The question is whether conservatives want emotional gratification or political victory on the critical issues facing this country. Rants may make us feel good, but the reality is that they alienate some voters who otherwise might be persuadable. All the heartfelt outrage and anger won't matter one bit if we can't get a majority of electoral votes in the next election, and gain control of both houses of Congress.

That's not to say that we need to alter our positions on the issues, because electing someone who will enact RINO policies is no better than losing. But it should at least remind us that we need to elect the most conservative politicians who can also garner enough votes among non-conservatives to win. And sometimes, that's less a matter of what you say than how you say it.

37 posted on 03/15/2011 10:35:45 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Seems to me that Bobby is smacking the elites, who are not persuadable anyway. Again, I ask, who is more deserving of the nomination than Sarah, among those with a realistic shot? Bob


38 posted on 03/15/2011 11:27:22 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("I don't wanna think. Just leave me here to drink, wrapped up in the warmth of New York City." Al S.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I don’t think Bobby is “Ret” at all. Not ever retied.


39 posted on 03/15/2011 11:33:40 AM PDT by bvw
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Seems to me that Bobby is smacking the elites, who are not persuadable anyway.

Why do you say that he's smacking just "the elites"? If you're referring to the supposed conservative elites, then I'd say that we better be able to persuade them to vote for the eventual nominee or we're completely screwed. As much as we may not want to face it, staunch conservatives are not 50% of the electorate.

Again, I ask, who is more deserving of the nomination than Sarah, among those with a realistic shot?

Given that not even Palin has declared yet, I think it's far too early to say who else may be deserving of it. She may not even run at all.

I think there are a few candidates who probably should be disqualified, but for the most part, I think we need to let this thing play out a bit more and learn some more about the folks who actually do declare before saying who may be more or less deserving. For me, it will come down to the most conservative candidate whom I think has a good chance to get elected..

My point is that any candidate who plays only to his/her base is not likely to win in the general election. Our nominee must be someone who has crossover appeal as well. That's just the reality of counting votes.

40 posted on 03/15/2011 11:41:06 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Bruce, if we don’t get the Krauthammers and Noonans at the end of the day over the Punk, we have more slimeballs in America than even I have suspected. Moderates don’t exactly have 50% of the electorate either. What Palin has is the courage to fight for her positions, unlike the Boehners and Lugars of this world. Bob


41 posted on 03/15/2011 11:52:58 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("I don't wanna think. Just leave me here to drink, wrapped up in the warmth of New York City." Al S.)
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To: alstewartfan
Moderates don’t exactly have 50% of the electorate either.

True. But they do have enough to throw the election either way.

What Palin has is the courage to fight for her positions, unlike the Boehners and Lugars of this world. Bob

Well, let's see if she runs first. Lugar's a weasel. I'll wait on Boehner. As best as I can tell, there are some disagreements in terms of best tactics/strategy to get the result we want, and those are the type of honest disagreements with which I can live, at least for a little while.

What is amazing to me is that poll after poll shows that there are fewer liberals than conservatives, yet they've managed to drag this country in their general direction for decades now. The only conclusion I can draw is that they've been fighting smarter than we have. They compromise, and back off when they must, but they never go in the opposite direction.

In my mind, we need a candidate who knows when to push in one place, and when to push in the other, because I think focused attacks, the "mass" principle of warfare, is more likely to succeed than attacks on a broad front. Divide and conquer, as it were. My concern with Palin is that tactically, she's more of a "hey diddle diddle, straight up the middle" tactician, and we used to tell our students that generally should be the approach only when nothing else is possible.

But whomever it is, Palin or someone else, it has to be someone who never gives up ground already won.

42 posted on 03/15/2011 12:23:32 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bigtigermike

Well said indeed!


43 posted on 03/15/2011 12:27:47 PM PDT by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Bigtigermike

Bobby, you said it better than I could ever say it.

You just obliterated any and all criticism of Palin by people who claim to be conservatives.


44 posted on 03/15/2011 12:29:04 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Sarah Palin is above taking the fake high road.)
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To: Bigtigermike

From the original article that Bobby commented on...

“This year, the conservative intelligentsia doesn’t just tend to dislike Palin — many fear that her rise would represent the triumph of an intellectually empty brand of populism and the death of ideas as an engine of the right.

“This is a problem for the movement,” said [George F. Will, the elder statesman of conservative columnists] about what Palin represents. “For conservatism, because it is a creedal movement, this is a disease to which it is susceptible.”

I can see why Bobby wrote what he did!!!

From Wikipedia:

Populism: ... It is defined by the Cambridge dictionary as “political ideas and activities that are intended to represent ordinary people’s needs and wishes”.[8] It can be understood as any political discourse that appeals to the general mass of the population, to the “people” as such, regardless of class distinctions and political partisanship—”a folksy appeal to the ‘average guy’ or some allegedly general will”.[9] This is in opposition to statism, which holds that a small group of professional politicians know better than the people and should make decisions on behalf of them.

So I take it that the criticism of Sarah from the right, in their own highly esteemed opinions (barf), is because conservatism is a “creedal” movement and should have only highly educated (read “elite”) representatives so their ideas don’t die?

I didn’t watch Rush’s commentary from the original article, but I couldn’t help but think they forget the part that you have to LIVE the ideas—the creed—not just talk about them. You have to STAND UP and DEFEND those ideas (thank Bobby for his service!!!) rather than roll over and wet on yourself when a conflict comes. You don’t have to be an “intellectual” to understand what our founding fathers meant and what they did (even the average farmer of their day understood). Even no-college-degree me understands that the founding fathers didn’t mean for government to be the solution to our problems. It’s also obvious they structured our republic so that the average American could and should be able to serve in government. All the public needs to expect is integrity, strength, common sense and citizenship. (With some humility...) Personally, I’d rather have Sarah leading our country than some elitists with their shining ideas but no fruit on their trees.


45 posted on 03/15/2011 12:31:08 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Mostly, we’re on the same page, Bruce. But I’m already thoroughly disgusted with the Speaker. He’s weak. Best, Bob


46 posted on 03/15/2011 12:36:37 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("I don't wanna think. Just leave me here to drink, wrapped up in the warmth of New York City." Al S.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
The question is whether conservatives want emotional gratification or political victory on the critical issues facing this country. Rants may make us feel good, but the reality is that they alienate some voters who otherwise might be persuadable.

BULL!!!! You advocate the problem that got us here -- SPINELESS leadership from the rear premised upon what others think...

How will you determine how to offend the least amount -polling? Is truth based upon majority rule?

Get a clue!

47 posted on 03/15/2011 12:37:19 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: foundedonpurpose

So, George Will, b/c conservatives are “creedal”, we are given to support candidates who offer “empty intellectualism? That is simply goofy, George, and you’re too smart to believe your own pabulum here. Bob


48 posted on 03/15/2011 12:45:37 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("I don't wanna think. Just leave me here to drink, wrapped up in the warmth of New York City." Al S.)
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To: DBeers

Bingo! If a few people are so weak that they will walk away from voting for our side because of a few rants that tells it like it is.....then we don’t need them and they are not principle people to begin with


49 posted on 03/15/2011 12:45:53 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Amen....LTC (ret), USA


50 posted on 03/15/2011 1:01:07 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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