Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Arizona 'Birthers' See Tie to Birthright Citizenship(Prof Spiro hurl alert)
CNSNews ^ | March 23, 2011 | Paul Davenport, Associated Press

Posted on 03/25/2011 1:53:44 PM PDT by patlin

The candidate qualifications bill would authorize Arizona's secretary of state to keep a presidential candidate off the state's ballot if the candidate or party doesn't provide required information on the candidate's eligibility.

Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor, said there's an emerging thread in legislation on presidential candidates' qualifications "that somebody who is a dual citizen at birth is ineligible for the presidency."

However, Spiro said, "there's no evidence that an individual has to be born to U.S. citizens to be eligible for the presidency."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: certifigate; electionfraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; professor; spiro; templeuniversity
I would love to dabate this professor in front of his students! He is a thorn to the founders original intent and frequently testifies in Congress. Most recently regarding Rand Paul's erroneous attempt to amend the birthright citizenship laws.
1 posted on 03/25/2011 1:53:48 PM PDT by patlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: bushpilot1; STARWISE; rxsid; Red Steel; edge919; Spaulding; Danae; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; ...
"PING" Lib Prof. Spiro strikes again
2 posted on 03/25/2011 1:56:09 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: patlin
However, Spiro said, "there's no evidence that an individual has to be born to U.S. citizens to be eligible for the presidency."

Obviously, this guy hasn't read the constitution. If he has, then he most definitely doesn't have enough reading comprehension ability to be a professor.

Oh, but I forgot. . .in U.S. universities, the only requirement for professorship is flaming liberalism.

3 posted on 03/25/2011 2:16:38 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: patlin

Beyond Citizenship
American Identity After Globalization
Peter J. Spiro

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Law/ComparativeLawandNationalLegalSy/?view=usa&ci=9780195152180

Description
American identity has always been capacious as a concept but narrow in its application. Citizenship has mostly been about being here, either through birth or residence. The territorial premises for citizenship have worked to resolve the peculiar challenges of American identity. But globalization is detaching identity from location. What used to define American was rooted in American space. Now one can be anywhere and be an American, politically or culturally. Against that backdrop, it becomes difficult to draw the boundaries of human community in a meaningful way. Longstanding notions of democratic citizenship are becoming obsolete, even as we cling to them. Beyond Citizenship charts the trajectory of American citizenship and shows how American identity is unsustainable in the face of globalization.

Peter J. Spiro describes how citizenship law once reflected and shaped the American national character. Spiro explores the histories of birthright citizenship, naturalization, dual citizenship, and how those legal regimes helped reinforce an otherwise fragile national identity. But on a shifting global landscape, citizenship status has become increasingly divorced from any sense of actual community on the ground. As the bonds of citizenship dissipate, membership in the nation-state becomes less meaningful. The rights and obligations distinctive to citizenship are now trivial. Naturalization requirements have been relaxed, dual citizenship embraced, and territorial birthright citizenship entrenched—developments that are all irreversible. Loyalties, meanwhile, are moving to transnational communities defined in many different ways: by race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, and sexual orientation. These communities, Spiro boldly argues, are replacing bonds that once connected people to the nation-state, with profound implications for the future of governance.

Learned, incisive, and sweeping in scope, Beyond Citizenship offers a provocative look at how globalization is changing the very definition of who we are and where we belong.


4 posted on 03/25/2011 2:23:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: patlin
The proposed legislation on documentation requirements for candidates asks for information on the citizenship of a candidate's parents. Tea party backers said Wednesday they believe people are only natural-born citizens if their parents are citizens.

The Arizona legislature does not get to define what a natural-born citizen is.

5 posted on 03/25/2011 2:24:40 PM PDT by K-Stater
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fred Nerks
Spiro explores the histories of birthright citizenship, naturalization, dual citizenship, and how those legal regimes helped reinforce an otherwise fragile national identity

Spiro has fully embraced globalization. To say that dual citizenship helps to reinforce national identity is absolutely & utterly absurd. It is completely inconsistant with the fundamental priciples of our founding laws as well as the 14th Amendment which has been raped & abused since the erroneous WKA ruling.

6 posted on 03/25/2011 2:29:38 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: K-Stater
The Arizona legislature does not get to define what a natural-born citizen is

They don't have to, the US Government already has over 150 years ago:

NY Times:

THE NATURALIZATION QUESTION.; THE POSITION OF THE ADMINISTRATION DEFINED. Important Official Paper.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/...

THE NATURALIZATION QUESTION.; Attorney-General Black's Opinion upon Expatriation and Naturalization.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/...

[H]ere none but a native can be President…;A Native and a Naturalized American can go forth with equal security over every sea and through every land under heaven, including the country in which the latter was born…They are both of them American citizens, and their exclusive allegiance is due to the government of the United States…One of them never did owe fealty elsewhere, and the other, at the time of his naturalization, solemnly and rightfully, in pursuance of public law and municipal regulations, threw off, renounced and abjured forever all allegiance to every foreign prince, potentate, State and sovereignty whatever, and especially to that sovereign whose subject he had previously been. [end quote]

Allegiance to but one nation, either at birth or by naturalization. Period. Here endeth the history lesson

7 posted on 03/25/2011 2:37:00 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: patlin

That’s the sort of gibberish that rules amongst the elite. I imagine he would have the same attitude towards Israel having an arab muslim President.

And why not? The US has one, so what’s the problem, he seems to be saying.


8 posted on 03/25/2011 2:40:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Fred Nerks
I ordered a copy of a 1939 article from the NY Times regarding communism & muslim communist Kenyans associated with Hitler. I haven't gotten it yet. When I clicked the final order button, it redirected me to an article from 1980 & Reagan. I e-mailed them but as of yet, it has not been corrected. I wonder what is in that article they do not want us to see? Since Obama’s grandfather was associated with that Kenyan group, the lack of forthrightness of the NY Times in correcting the error is quite telling.
9 posted on 03/25/2011 3:10:26 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: patlin
Allegiance to but one nation, either at birth or by naturalization. Period. Here endeth the history lesson.

Of course it does.

10 posted on 03/25/2011 3:15:48 PM PDT by K-Stater
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: patlin
...I ordered a copy of a 1939 article from the NY Times regarding communism & muslim communist Kenyans associated with Hitler. I haven't gotten it yet...

I bet THAT article will be disappeared! Can you let me have the HEADLINE? There may be another source. I certainly would like to try and find it.

11 posted on 03/25/2011 3:18:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Fred Nerks

NAZIS CLAIM ALL OF GERMAN BLOOD; Citizens of Other Lands Must Be Won for Reich, Party’s Foreign Section Hears. VOICE OF BLOOD’ INVOKED Policy Means ‘Conflict,’ Kenya Leader Says, but There Will Be No Retreat From Goal.


12 posted on 03/25/2011 3:25:57 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: patlin

K-Stater is the recently banned long term troll NS.


13 posted on 03/25/2011 3:39:44 PM PDT by bushpilot1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: bushpilot1

thanks


14 posted on 03/25/2011 3:43:31 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: patlin

http://thebrandeishoot.com/articles/10063


15 posted on 03/25/2011 3:43:37 PM PDT by bushpilot1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: patlin

He obviously does not believe in “original intent.” In fact he appears to be asserting that he is more authoritative than
Chief Justice John Marshall, Justice Story, St. George Tucker and Chief Justice Waite, as well as the principal author of the Fourteenth Amendment. Such learning! Such wisdom! Aren’t we glad he’s teaching young minds? /s


16 posted on 03/25/2011 3:51:04 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: patlin
NAZIS CLAIM ALL OF GERMAN BLOOD; Citizens of Other Lands Must Be Won for Reich, Party’s Foreign Section Hears. VOICE OF BLOOD’

Can't find anything under specific titles, but it looks as if there are two seperate issues combined into one...the first relates to 1939.

INVOKED Policy Means ‘Conflict,’ Kenya Leader Says, but There Will Be No Retreat From Goal.

And the second item is something else entirely.

17 posted on 03/25/2011 3:59:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: patlin

Melody Barnes is delusional.

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/events/2010/0928_immigration/0928_barnes_remarks.pdf


18 posted on 03/25/2011 4:07:01 PM PDT by bushpilot1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: bushpilot1
Melody Barnes is delusional

she really lost me with this statement: Since President Obama walked into the White House . . . there are more boots on the ground near the Southwest border than at any time in our history


19 posted on 03/25/2011 4:44:02 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Fred Nerks
No, if you go to the NY Times you will see that they pertain to the same thing: “Of Blood”. Kenyan muslim communists were very much involved with Hitler and with his call for the claim of all of German blood, it would have a substantial affect on Kenyans. It was their goal to spread communism through the world. English history tells us that England & Germany were once one country under one regime. Kenya being a British colony would be greatly affected by Hitlers call for all of German blood descent to return to Germany. It would hinder the communist action in Kenya by possibly lowering the number of body's for their revolt in Kenya. But make no mistake, there was transcontinental Nazi/Marxist organization and that included both Germany & Kenyan citizens. And make no mistake, it was never disbanded & is still in force today.
20 posted on 03/25/2011 4:53:21 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: patlin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2512143/posts?page=339#339


21 posted on 03/25/2011 5:01:14 PM PDT by bushpilot1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: patlin

you all have to see this video ..

AMAZING .. simple enough for a kid to understand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCmpyQO6bbw&NR=1&feature=fvwp


22 posted on 03/26/2011 2:38:20 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson