Posted on 03/28/2011 5:59:59 PM PDT by curth
Donald Trump has released a copy of his original birth certificate…which is something every single Republican should do…and not just ones running for president.
But Trump does not understand the real issue here: Obama is hiding something written on the “name” line of the certificate.
Obama was indeed born in Hawaii in 1961…but he was adopted in Indonesia in the late-60s or early 70s.
At the time of his adoption, his name was legally changed to something like Soetorabakh Soetoro…because Indonesian naming convention is so unusual, there are many possibilities for how his adopted name could be spelled (like all the variants of Khadaffy).
Obama never petitioned to legally change his name back to Barack Hussein Obama upon his return to Hawaii.
When a child is adopted, a new birth certificate with the adopted name is issued…listing the adoptive parent as the father or mother.
So, Obama’s legal birth certificate not only shows Lolo Soetoro as his legal father…but records his legal name as Soetorobakh…NOT Barack Obama.
Because all of these names are so strange and Klingon-like to American ears, this has been a hard concept for many to grasp.
But Trump and others need to start asking what’s on the birth certificate that Obama is so desperate to hide.
Anyone out there with a way to contact Trump directly?
If he REALLY wants to stir the pot, then he needs to talk about the adoption and what name is really on Obama’s birth certificate.
THAT is what Obama has been hiding for 40 years now.
You’re right. It’s all about learning the facts about this fraud. Too much is hidden. His book is fiction, and also written by Bill Ayres.
Not a birther but I believe Zero is illegitimate and the secret he wants to keep is that there’s no father listed on the cert, as was customary back then.
If that's all this ends up being: how really stupid on his part.
I guess people are worried he’s not “Getting” the natural born part. I’m sure he’ll get up to speed on The One in no time.
It’s funny when you think about it- Trump is the only one who could get away with this!
Well, that's an intriguing new wrinkle.
Who really did give birth to Grandma's son?
Is that video still available? I’m sure the Boobtube has taking it down.
We can’t know until we see the real deal. How does anyone know for a fact that Barry was born in Hawaii? Maybe this is all about a name, or maybe it’s about Barry being born in Kenya. Barry is the only one who solve this, and he isn’t going to do it.
No he’s not. He is simply approaching the issue from a direction that won’t stake him out on any one point while raising doubts in the minds of Americans.
Well played!
It's easier to believe if you consider that he wasn't supposed to win the nomination -- Hillary was. Clinton's strategy was to win the Super Primary, but she took her eye off of the caucus states, and Obama won there. So, when the final fight came down to the super-delegate model in the Democrat party, the race card was played to ensure that the Democrat-party insiders lined up for Obama, otherwise the African-American Democrats would begin the "there they go again" after Maynard Jackson was turned down for DNC Chair for Terry McAuliffe (Bill Clinton's "Valerie Jarrett). So, this had a special irony for blacks in the DNC to finally get even with the Clintons by throwing their super-delegate votes to Obama, handing him the nomination.
-PJ
I understand that Obama is personally paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to help keep his birth certificate hidden. That's an awfully lot of money to spend just to make a few people look foolish somewhere down the road, while he suffers from the accusations in the here and now, which is all that counts in politics. It's hard for me to imagine that his future "October Surprise" will be the producing of his birth certificate, a document that could still be impugned as to its authenticity anyway. I have no doubt he's spending that kind of money to protect himself from something, and not as some sort of investment in the future to embarrass political enemies. Just don't make sense to me.
This is an extremely important point. It means that since around 1980, the man has apparently been using a name that is not legally his. Now, I do not know if there is any connection, but he accepted a "voluntary retirement" from the Illinois Bar, rather than face Bar discipline after an inquiry. We also know from public record that he lied about the name thing on his Illinois Bar Application. He had the temerity to deny ever having used another name! Of course he also lied about drug use and traffic citations. Because he accepted "voluntary retirement" rather than disbarrment, the records of all Bar proceedings are sealed. That's normal. Oddly enough, Michelle also ran afoul of the Bar. She was SUSPENDED by court order!
2 for 2 chez Obama!
Apparently, the POTUS can use an illegal name, but an Illinois attorney can not? I don't think so. Don't sell this short. It is a legal nightmare. No wonder the SCOTUS didn't want to get involved! LOL.
Trump has the entire establishmedia twisted in knots trying to explain this. Every T-baller has had to show their BC, why not the Present? It’s only going to get bigger and they can’t hide it from Trump.
Pray for America
LOL. YES! You’re right. Trump is the only one getting away with this and he’s flabbergasting his libtard media admirers...LOL.
They’re absolutely stunned and trying very hard to hide their disgust and rage. We know they’re mad as hell, but also trying very hard to stay on The Donald’s good side. Hilarious.
I never thought about that possibility....interesting!
If you think that then you’re a birther.
Trump. Keep it up I want this guy exposed.
You should. That's the way it's done. The original BC is sealed, and the kid gets a new one with the adopted parent's name. It's why Bill Clinton is Bill Clinton, and not Billy Blythe. It's why Gerald Ford is Gerald Ford and not Leslie King. Clinton and Ford are their LEGAL names. The adoptor is their legal parent.
When the guy was adopted, his legal name became Barry Soetoro, or something like that (Soebarkah, etc). That means to change it back, he would have had to go to court, which he clearly did not. He has, therefore, in the opinion of some very intelligent people, and me,been cruising under a name not legally his.
To top it off, he lied about on his Illinois Bar App. Perhaps not coincidentally, he is no longer allowed to practice law. This name thing is very serious business, indeed.
If it is proven, the question becomes, "what among his various actions is invalidated?"
On What Evidence do you make that statement? There is no evidence of that. There is NO Birth Certificate in HI. There is no Hospital Record in HI. He was not born in HI.
We do NOT know his Name. He is a total Fraud. Fabricated from the beginning. This smells of a "spook" operation. No one else could conceal all his history. Now, the question is WHY and for Whom?
Trump had mentioned to FOX & Friends that “Bush had to provide his BC”... He just “found out over the weekend.”
This to me tells him some of the RINO/big players are getting involved and providing some background and info...
“I don’t buy the articles reasoning that they change the name on the original Birth certificate when a kid is adopted.”
It’s always been my understanding that, in the case of legal adoption, they do issue another birth certificate with the adoptive parent’s name as parent. Back to the days when adoption records were sealed (I think a person couldn’t get them opened until they were either 18 or 21). So, in order for the adopted child to have a birth certificate that might be required for various things - school, passports, etc., they would have the “replacement” document. Also, back in the day, many parents didn’t tell their children they were adopted. There was somewhat of a stigma about it, nothing like today.
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