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Mind Blowing Speech By JBS Founder Robert Welch In 1974!
Youtube ^ | Nov 6, 2009 | TheChannelOfLiberty

Posted on 03/28/2011 9:59:52 PM PDT by Christus_Rex

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: government; jbs; robertwelch; video; welch
Amazingly insightful speech by founder of the John Birch Society, Robert Welch on the dangers of big government!
1 posted on 03/28/2011 9:59:57 PM PDT by Christus_Rex
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To: Christus_Rex

Interesting, thanks!


2 posted on 03/28/2011 10:10:54 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Christus_Rex

Geez. Robert Welch looked like he was 110 years old when he was only 75 at that time. Great message, awful delivery. I will stick with old Reagan speeches.


3 posted on 03/28/2011 10:15:40 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Christus_Rex

Yea and even the likes of Levin keep trashing the guy. Why? He was right...


4 posted on 03/29/2011 12:08:10 AM PDT by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: Christus_Rex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3jKB6_tVpQ&feature=related


5 posted on 03/29/2011 12:27:43 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Christus_Rex
I well remember when local activists began organizing a local chapter of the Birch Society, spearheaded, as a matter of fact, by the father of another Freeper and long time friend of mine.

My father was an officer in the Fla. National Guard at the time and also held the organizer in high regard and friendship. Daddy spoke of how correct the JBS was and how badly they were needed, but then the word came down, it might have meant the end of my father's career had he been openly active, looking back at some of the other things I remember it almost certainly would have ended his career.

Frank, are you reading this?

6 posted on 03/29/2011 12:38:41 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: FGRobinson

ping


7 posted on 03/29/2011 12:41:55 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Christus_Rex

ping


8 posted on 03/29/2011 12:48:48 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: USSR Didnt Fall
...even the likes of Levin keep trashing the guy. Why? He was right...

Yes, in a "big picture" kind of way. But he was over the top, and he got some of the names wrong.

9 posted on 03/29/2011 12:54:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I still have my grandfather’s 1959 edition of the “Blue Book”. It’s a thin little book, but reading Welch’s words even now just makes me wonder how all the slap-in-the-face warnings went ignored? Just look where America is now? The parasites outnumber the hosts and there’s no going back. The communists are winning, and the only thing Congress seems capable of doing, regardless of its makeup, is change the pace of their progress.


10 posted on 03/29/2011 1:01:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
An old, opinionated, patriotic, windy kind of white guy, complete with orotund read-from-your-notes oratory that is the relic of an old-fashioned classical education based on Christian religious principles, is just simply not believable ... or perhaps more important ...not attractive to increasingly dumbed-down people who can still vote.

.....slap-in-the-face warnings went ignored?
Of course they did, and will continue to do so. Nowadays, if someone knows something, and someone else doesn't, there is the grave danger of a great loss of self-esteem in the transfer of information from the knowledgeable to the ignorant. That's because the opinions of the ignorant are now just as valid as the factual knowledge of the more informed. Furthermore, the ignorant demand the support of the informed, but not vice-versa.

Sorry. It seems to be the life-cycle of democracies.

11 posted on 03/29/2011 3:19:28 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Anybody notice that BOTH Barry and Michelle were asked off the Illinois Bar? Anybody wonder why?)
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To: Christus_Rex

Very interesting and insightful.

I have been swayed by the MSM’s labeling of the JBS as “extremists”. For this reason I have ignored and avoided the group in the same way I avoided the Klan. (No, I am NOT equating the two!) Mentally, I had characterized both groups as whackos!

Ironically, I went to the same high school as John Birch (though much, much later), lived for a time in his old house and even dated one of his nieces. Thanks to the internet, we are all able to do our own research, gather evidence, use forums like Free Republic to discuss things with others and finally make up our own minds. It is good to have this electronic version of Mars Hill.


12 posted on 03/29/2011 4:27:32 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("All it takes for Evil to triumph is for good MEN to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

Because Levin is a neocon from back when and they hate birchers.


13 posted on 03/29/2011 4:33:40 AM PDT by Huck (Fools make feasts and wise men eat them - Poor Richard)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The John Birch Society regularly denounced Ronald Reagan.


14 posted on 03/29/2011 4:36:45 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: BwanaNdege
Fwiw, it was William Buckley who labeled them as extremist, and he had his reasons: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/goldwater-the-john-birch-society-and-me/
15 posted on 03/29/2011 4:40:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Another eye opener!

It looks like Welsh had some looney ideas and some accurate assessments.

However, now we have ended up with a collective impression that everyone in America associated with “anti-communism”, from McCarthy to Nixon to the John Birch Society is anathema. The Left obviously holds this position, but what is troubling is that the Right does also.

Is there a socially acceptable, anti-communist group or individual, either historical or current?

I use the term “anti-communist” a bit loosely. I include opposition to not only Soviet collectivism but also to Socialism & other “Progressive/Liberal” manifestations.


16 posted on 03/29/2011 5:13:01 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("All it takes for Evil to triumph is for good MEN to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: BwanaNdege
He seems to have had some good things to say, but became insular and kind of nuts in many ways too, as Buckley aptly demonstrated.

It's very easy to shift away from the true horror of communist reality in an age dominated by a media and a university system that has been successfully anti-anti-communist for so long. Since the cold war was won, the right has not wanted to bring up the subject for fear of being derided by the left. It's a very unfortunate thing, there is no constant reminder about how bad a system socialism (aka communism) really is. We keep hearing about Nazi Germany, which was admittedly horrible, but are forgetting that over almost a century, socialist countries have killed hundreds of millions of their own people making Hitler look like a piker.

17 posted on 03/29/2011 5:30:58 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: iowamark

They also said Ike was a “dedicated member of the communist conspiracy.” In short, whatever good ideas they might have had were overshadowed by their nutty everyone’s-a-commie-but us philosophy.


18 posted on 03/29/2011 7:02:34 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Huck

There has to be something more to it can you expand on why he hates them so much?


19 posted on 03/29/2011 7:02:48 AM PDT by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

Bircher/neocon history is well documented. Consult your local library.


20 posted on 03/29/2011 7:06:53 AM PDT by Huck (Palin on Libya: Definitely a no-fly zone, definitely regime change, won't rule out ground troops.)
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To: Huck; USSR Didnt Fall

Tom Woods has been taking Levin to the woodshed on war powers. Liberterian vs Neocon views.


21 posted on 03/29/2011 7:09:04 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
I saw that. Did you see Rand Paul's reaction to Obama's speech? It's posted here somewhere. He basically used Woods' arguments.

Levin meanwhile, can do no better than "everybody does it," which would be a pathetic argument even if it were true. But, never forget, the neocons OWN the GOP, and their mouthpieces.

22 posted on 03/29/2011 7:14:14 AM PDT by Huck (Palin on Libya: Definitely a no-fly zone, definitely regime change, won't rule out ground troops.)
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To: Huck

So you can’t explain?


23 posted on 03/29/2011 7:15:38 AM PDT by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

I’m a little busy. Go ask your mother.


24 posted on 03/29/2011 7:16:14 AM PDT by Huck (Palin on Libya: Definitely a no-fly zone, definitely regime change, won't rule out ground troops.)
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To: Huck

Busy huh...


25 posted on 03/29/2011 7:18:31 AM PDT by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: USSR Didnt Fall
Too busy to spoonfeed you.


26 posted on 03/29/2011 7:26:53 AM PDT by Huck (Palin on Libya: Definitely a no-fly zone, definitely regime change, won't rule out ground troops.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Here’s Rand Paul. Check out how it mirrors Woods’ arguments.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2696320/posts


27 posted on 03/29/2011 7:28:57 AM PDT by Huck (Palin on Libya: Definitely a no-fly zone, definitely regime change, won't rule out ground troops.)
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To: Huck
Thanks for the link Huck. I read a few pieces on how Woods is deconstructing the debate. The most recent I read was here: New American
28 posted on 03/29/2011 7:38:45 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Huck
Sir, I think you need help. I simply asked you for information regarding the issue of Levin and the Birchers and you have been very rude since then.

Seems like your problems go beyond an attitude on a blog; good luck with that.

God Bless

29 posted on 03/29/2011 1:05:36 PM PDT by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

You’re right. I’m sorry. It goes back to Eisenhower days, William Buckley etc. If you google birch society and neoconservative, you’ll find plenty of info. If you look up john birch society on wiki, you’ll find some decent info there that will lead you to deeper info. Sorry again.


30 posted on 03/29/2011 1:46:58 PM PDT by Huck (Palin on Libya: Definitely a no-fly zone, definitely regime change, won't rule out ground troops.)
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To: Christus_Rex

I am amazed that this thread has only gotten 30+ posts!


31 posted on 03/29/2011 9:22:37 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (America can survive a fool as President. It cannot survive the fools who would vote for him.)
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To: BwanaNdege
The Left controls the dialogue.

Look at Kagan of the Supreme Court. I would have asked her if she still thinks Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs are innocent. Many on the Left still do and her family, NYC Communist to the Core, were in the forefront of the fight to free them.

The Left clings to the idea of their innocence despite overwhelming evidence from the Soviet Union that they were KGB operatives.

If John Birch weren't a nut to begin with, he certainly, like me, would have wound up a nut after dealing with the Left for a few decades.

32 posted on 03/29/2011 9:33:07 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (America can survive a fool as President. It cannot survive the fools who would vote for him.)
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