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High Capacity Magazine Freedom Campaign
Ammoland.com ^ | 22 March, 2011 | i Dovid Bendory

Posted on 03/29/2011 5:05:35 AM PDT by marktwain

Washington, DC --(Ammoland.com)- JPFO today launches “The High Capacity Freedom Campaign”.

First, some background to highlight the hypocrisy and stupidity of a high-capacity magazine ban.

Imagine you bought a Glock 17 9mm pistol a year ago. Your purchase was legal and included two 17-round magazines. Now along come Obama and other “common sense” gun-grabbers with a ban on “high capacity” magazines.

The result?

Based on the so-called “Assault Weapons” Ban of 1994, a federal mandate declares that after a certain date, the manufacture, sale, or re-sale of ammunition magazines that hold more than ten rounds is now illegal. Such manufacture, sale or re-sale will be a felony. This is how AWB1 (and high-cap ban) were enacted.

Of course, there will be the usual exceptions for law enforcement and military purposes. But Joe or Jane Citizen will find themselves felons for selling their 17-round mag. Depending on how effective the gun haters are, Joe and Jane may even become felons for not turning in or registering their magazines.

Next imagine that you, with your year-old Glock, are somehow found in possession of a 17-round magazine. When it comes to guns in this country, the government says we’re all guilty until proven innocent.

How are you going to prove that you didn’t buy one of those high cap magazines AFTER the ban was instated? Do you have your receipt from the gun shop? Did you save your receipt from that mail order house that sold you a couple of spare magazines before the ban started? Even if you are innocent, this is going to cost you. You’ll be a front page star in the local paper, and your attorney will earn enough to send another kid to college for a year.

Remember, a “high cap” magazine ban was an integral part of the 1994 anti-gun law. Some States like California and New Jersey still enforce the high cap ban, albeit with oddly differing definitions of “high cap.”

In California, “high capacity” means more than 10 rounds, unless it’s a .22 “tube” magazine, which is exempt, or if you possessed it before the ban, in which case it’s grandfathered. In New Jersey, “high capacity” means 15 rounds, though such a magazine is illegal even if you possessed it prior to the ban and even if you have no gun to put it into. (in NJ If you own a high cap magazine, it is against the law to sell it, destroy it, posses it or turn it in, a complete catch 22 that makes you a felon)

Apparently in New Jersey, with 15 rounds you’ll be able to protect yourself and family from the cocaine addict gang that breaks into your home, but in California, 10 rounds will do the job.

Meanwhile, the police can continue to carry their 17-round magazines. That’s another part of “common sense” gun control, right?

Question: Who is more likely to be on the front lines at the next Columbine or Virginia Tech, the police with their large magazines, or you and me with our 10-round limit? How many rounds do you want when you are on the front line? Is the policeman’s life more valuable than yours and mine?

Friends, as a Jew, I have a deeply ingrained distrust of any government that promises it will “protect me.” The history of the Twentieth Century teaches us that “gun control” registration schemes lead to political decisions to allow some populations to protect themselves while others are disarmed. Gun control is inexorably tied to malevolent citizen disarmament. See: “INNOCENTS BETRAYED”

JPFO’s answer to all of this? The “High Capacity Freedom Campaign” – “High Cap Freedom” for short.

What is High Cap Freedom?

JPFO now asks EVERY responsible American gun owner to, as soon as possible, purchase at least one high capacity magazine. Even if you don’t own a firearm that requires magazines, buy at least one “high cap” mag for a commonly owned pistol or rifle. (It may even be one of the fastest-appreciating investments you ever make!)

Why? Because we want the production of all those millions and millions of magazines in the “pipeline” before any ban can take effect.

The surge of orders from “High Cap Freedom” will quickly flood the manufacturers. You may not be able to get an original factory mag, but soon reputable accessory manufacturers will begin making them 24/7, and we’ll see new manufacturers enter the market. The result? More magazine choices, at better prices, for all of us. More accessory choices – and millions more existing high cap magazines in circulation before a ban can take effect.

Help JPFO launch “High Cap Freedom”. Go down to your gun shop and buy a “high cap” mag immediately! Get on the phone or your computer and place your order with an accessory mail order house right now!

Welcome to “High Cap Freedom”, Phase One.

There’s more to come… JPFO will soon reveal our greater strategy.

Get busy! “ Freedom is not a spectator sport.” Rabbi Dovid Bendory Rabbinic Director Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership www.jpfo.org Rabbi Bendory is an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor. Copyright 2011 JPFO


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I rather like the concept. Many on Freerepublic already have a number of magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. I consider those magazines to be standard capacity, for the most part. A strong argument is made that if police can have the equipment then citzens should have equal access to it.
1 posted on 03/29/2011 5:05:41 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
"It may even be one of the fastest-appreciating investments you ever make!"

That's the dammed truth! After the ban during the 1990s, prices of 'pre-ban' mags went through the roof, and people were gladly paying for them!!

I don't think such a law would make it through the Congress right now, so stock up!!!

2 posted on 03/29/2011 5:12:50 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

during the ban, 13 rd mags for my Glock 21 cost about $75. the day after the ban? $7.00. I lol’ed at the pawn store guys about that. they didn’t LOL back.


3 posted on 03/29/2011 5:19:04 AM PDT by RC one ("merchants have no country")
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To: RC one

Good advice. The gun salesman is at it again with his call for “sensible gun controls” (BAN THEM ALL!, The Shot and the hand and the ball!) And of course, any mags over two rounds, because perps should have the same chance as ducks. After all he is not after your hunting guns, since the 2nd IS about duck hunting, isn’t it?


4 posted on 03/29/2011 5:59:51 AM PDT by barb-tex (Oh Well, I don't actually KNOW he is a Muzzie!)
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To: marktwain
They aren't "high capacity" magazines. They are standard capacity. If you buy a cz75b in 9mm it comes with 15 round magazines. If you buy an AR-15 it will typically comes with a 30 round magazine. You can make magazines hold less of course, those would be "reduced capacity" magazines not "standard" magazines.

Don't let liberals frame the debate through the misuse of language.

5 posted on 03/29/2011 6:01:28 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
"JPFO now asks EVERY responsible American gun owner to, as soon as possible, purchase at least one high capacity magazine."

Ow, ow -- OK, twist my arm. $;-)

I agree with marktwain -- I don't like the use of the words "High Capacity" in reference to firearm magazines. That's allowing the enemy to define the terms of the debate. For a long while now I instead use the term "standard capacity" when speaking of anything over ten rounds, and "limited capacity" for ten-rounders. That's much more accurate.

Let's face it -- this is 2011, and >10 rounds for pistols has been widely available for decades. For rifles, the differences are even greater and longer-term; to wit, the AR-15 class of rifles has had 30 rounds available since 1966.

It's been a long time since six-shooters and bolt guns ruled the day.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

6 posted on 03/29/2011 6:19:09 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

As someone who carries a 1911 every day, my standard capacity mags only hold 8. Nevertheless, if you wanna carry tactical tupperware, I have zero problems with you having 19 in yours.


7 posted on 03/29/2011 6:29:02 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: marktwain
Bigger isn't always better.
8 posted on 03/29/2011 7:00:58 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Joe Brower

“High-capacity” as a descriptor for magazines should be limited to 33-round Glock 9mm mags, 75-round AK drum mags, 100-round double-snail AR drum mags, and the like.

The rest, as you say, should always be “standard capacity”.


9 posted on 03/29/2011 7:02:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain
Related article on the Ammoland website: High Turnout Against Magazine Ban But Threat Remains in Connecticut

As I said in my testimony in CT last week:

Do we ban citizens from attending more than 10 rallies or sending more than 10 letters to the editor as a “high capacity” exercise of free speech?
Do we suspend a citizen’s protections under the 4th Amendment after 10 warranted searches?
Do we ban women and minorities from “high capacity” voting more than 10 times?
Do we ban beer by the case as “high capacity” alcohol possession?

10 posted on 03/29/2011 7:03:41 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: smokingfrog

LOL! OK, I’ve got to say that looks pretty lame.

And I generally like high-capacity mags as I defined just above.


11 posted on 03/29/2011 7:03:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: DTogo
Do we ban women and minorities from “high capacity” voting more than 10 times?

Not in Minnesota

12 posted on 03/29/2011 7:37:36 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: marktwain
"A strong argument is made that if police can have the equipment then citzens should have equal access to it."

But the CORRECT argument is "if the Army has it" then the "militia" should also (in the correct meaning of the term "militia").

13 posted on 03/29/2011 7:40:05 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: WOBBLY BOB

HA! That’s one kind of “high capacity” that Liberals are all in favor of!


14 posted on 03/29/2011 7:41:05 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: marktwain
Who knows when you may need those extra rounds in a magazine!

I lifted this from an old 1984 copy of PISTOLERO MAGAZINE.

15 posted on 03/29/2011 8:00:29 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: marktwain

JPFO now asks EVERY responsible American gun owner to, as soon as possible, purchase at least one high capacity magazine.


Order placed, ships today. Couldn't stop at just one.

16 posted on 03/29/2011 8:05:47 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: EdReform

Got a backorder on a Keltc PMR 30. 30 round mag. LOL!!


17 posted on 03/29/2011 8:51:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Ha! The 30-rounder’s I wanted were in stock, so I ordered those. I created a second (back)order for the 20-rounders, which were out of stock. Of course, I only plan on using them as Christmas tree ornaments...


18 posted on 03/29/2011 9:53:36 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: marktwain

CLARIFICATION: The ban will be on STANDARD-CAPACITY magazines! They WANT us all to make do with REDUCED-CAPACITY mags,....except for the “only ones”, of course!


19 posted on 03/29/2011 10:03:03 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Joe Brower

60 round mag on the left. 100 round mag on the right.

20 posted on 03/29/2011 10:22:45 AM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: ironwill
Heh. Now we're talking. I've seen these. Pricey. I wonder how well they really work in adverse conditions. Surefire generally makes top-notch stuff.

I'd be inclined to just go for a Shrike upper. Good to have options, though.

21 posted on 03/29/2011 10:46:09 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

The only problem with the Shrike is that it’s $3K+ and the waiting list is 5 years. Plus you have to put all your cartridges in the belt links manually (unless you have access to pre-loaded belts). The ammo box holds 200 or so rounds?

I’d just get two 100 round mags and save myself a ton of $$$. The Shrike would be fun though.


22 posted on 03/29/2011 12:15:03 PM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: marktwain

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2696753/posts

Related.


23 posted on 03/30/2011 11:52:07 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: P8riot

There are a few 10+ round solid .45’s out there.
FWIW, the other day I made an interesting discovery:
a standard 10 rd 7.62 stripper clip will hold 8 .45 cartridges (can’t get them around the bend and still get them out - so four on one end, and four on another). Not much help on speed loading, but for keeping 8 together handily...


24 posted on 03/30/2011 9:49:12 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: marktwain

I hate to quibble, but I think he has the supply and demand thing a little off.
If we all rush the stores, demand will push the price up faster than competition can push the price down.


25 posted on 03/30/2011 9:53:32 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: Apogee
Thanks. Yeah I know about the 10 rounders, but dislike that they hang below the grip. I am a very good shot, and have been in a firefight or two (former LEO). If I need more than my normal 8+1 (plus 2 extra mags) I am in real trouble.

Thanks for the info on the stripper clips too. That could come in handy

26 posted on 03/31/2011 5:41:44 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: P8riot

I hate the extended mag thing, too (though I know of at least one family whose members have the smaller and larger glock, with the premise that his mags will fit in hers, even if a bit long). I was thinking more like double stack .45 mags - say Baby Eagle, or CZ. Heavy, steel, and tight.

Like I said, the stripper clip is not for a speed load, but having a few in the emergency bags might keep one from fumbling around in a time of need.

I have occasion to travel to a neighborhood where there has been a tendency for locals to drag people out of their cars with about a 20 to 1 ratio. If I am out the normal mag plus two spares, as you say, I’m in real trouble.


27 posted on 03/31/2011 10:30:26 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: Apogee

I will agree that there are some nice double stack .45s, but my preference is the 1911, and since effective, comfortable carry is limited to 8+1 in most cases, I don’t find the larger capacity mag prohibition to be limiting personally, but agree that it is bad, unconstitutional law. It needs to be stopped.


28 posted on 04/01/2011 2:41:30 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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