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FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery
network world ^ | 3/29/2011 | Layer 8 micheal cooney

Posted on 03/29/2011 12:08:46 PM PDT by OL Hickory

The FBI is seeking the public's help in breaking the encrypted code found in two notes discovered on the body of a murdered man in 1999.

(Excerpt) Read more at networkworld.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: government; help; murder; solve

1 posted on 03/29/2011 12:08:50 PM PDT by OL Hickory
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To: OL Hickory

I thought we already had several very expensive gov’t agencies that could break any code on earth before breakfast. What, the feebees aren’t paying their bills for inter-agency work?


2 posted on 03/29/2011 12:15:06 PM PDT by wrench
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To: OL Hickory

So in other words, the NSA told them to go pound sand.


3 posted on 03/29/2011 12:17:37 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: OL Hickory
ROT-13. NSA just wants FBI to look bad. It is budget season.

/johnny

4 posted on 03/29/2011 12:24:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: OL Hickory

Of course, if you can decrypt it, you become the prime suspect.

Oh well, I’ll do it anyway...Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.


5 posted on 03/29/2011 12:24:31 PM PDT by farmguy
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To: OL Hickory

I’m waiting for the fbi@home client.


6 posted on 03/29/2011 12:24:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Mine sez:

Happy Trails to You! Roy and Dale.


7 posted on 03/29/2011 12:27:09 PM PDT by RickGee
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To: OL Hickory

Could be license plates numbers written by a
schizophrenic over time


8 posted on 03/29/2011 12:27:28 PM PDT by savage woman
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To: OL Hickory
Don't worry guys, I got this one.


9 posted on 03/29/2011 12:28:02 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: OL Hickory

i like killing because......-zodiac


10 posted on 03/29/2011 12:32:55 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: OL Hickory

Obama did it.


11 posted on 03/29/2011 12:33:23 PM PDT by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: OL Hickory
Babelfish says it's the Lincoln Gettysburg Address.
12 posted on 03/29/2011 12:33:26 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: savage woman

It sure looks like a couple of hackers trying to find the right Microsoft product key to steal software.


13 posted on 03/29/2011 12:33:29 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: OL Hickory

This is the kind of thing where if you “solve” it, you become the prime suspect.


14 posted on 03/29/2011 12:33:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Looks like car stuff written down after pscho episode.
Lots of SE - you see that on the back of a lot of cars.
If this was in the pocket of the murdered person - it could
be his and he is paranoid schizophrenic.


15 posted on 03/29/2011 12:38:34 PM PDT by savage woman
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To: OL Hickory

It was Col. Mustard, in the Kitchen, with a Candlestick.


16 posted on 03/29/2011 12:40:02 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Obamacare: Not just dreck. Unconstitutional dreck.)
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To: OL Hickory
"Put that guy McNerd on it."


17 posted on 03/29/2011 12:40:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: wrench

Didn’t a couple of amateurs, Don & Bettye Harden, break the Zodiac code. Like the guy from the FBI said, it is probably a unique code and they were hoping someone with “fresh eyes”, in other words, a nut, could decrypt it. It was the victim’s private code and probably won’t be useful for finding his murderer in any case.


18 posted on 03/29/2011 12:41:08 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: OL Hickory
Looks like a book cypher to me. We used them when we were kids. The hardy Boys book were the source.
19 posted on 03/29/2011 12:41:23 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: OL Hickory

It says “I don’t care if you don’t have a silver gun! Just throw in any thing you’ve got and dump the body in Ft. Marcy Park, you FJB!”


20 posted on 03/29/2011 12:41:49 PM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Lancey Howard
This is the kind of thing where if you “solve” it, you become the prime suspect.

Or they send a hit squad to kill your family and make it look like a murder/suicide because you are obviously a threat to national security.

21 posted on 03/29/2011 12:43:08 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: wrench

“Eat more Ovaltine”


22 posted on 03/29/2011 12:44:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: OL Hickory

The patterns “WLDNCBE” and “NCBE” repeat a lot in one message.


23 posted on 03/29/2011 12:45:07 PM PDT by agere_contra (As often as I look upon the cross, so often will I forgive with all my heart.)
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To: OL Hickory

The key to the encryption is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Y6UKMp8Qw


24 posted on 03/29/2011 12:47:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: agere_contra

Also “SENPRSE”


25 posted on 03/29/2011 12:49:17 PM PDT by agere_contra (As often as I look upon the cross, so often will I forgive with all my heart.)
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To: OL Hickory

I can only imagine the reaction of the lead detective who first saw these notes back in ‘99.


26 posted on 03/29/2011 12:51:38 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: OL Hickory
In other News::

dyslexic, near illiterate fools FBI.
27 posted on 03/29/2011 12:53:28 PM PDT by Koracan
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To: OL Hickory

He uses a lot of parentheses. It could be that encloses the name of a person like a cartouche in Egyptian hieroglyphs.


28 posted on 03/29/2011 1:01:15 PM PDT by faq
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To: faq

I like the cartouche idea, but I guess a lot of these sequences are addresses. Lots of repeated letter groups with numbers.


29 posted on 03/29/2011 1:08:40 PM PDT by agere_contra (As often as I look upon the cross, so often will I forgive with all my heart.)
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To: Soothesayer9

“So in other words, the NSA told them to go pound sand.”

Maybe they just want to find out which non-government personnel can solve it.


30 posted on 03/29/2011 1:09:08 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: agere_contra; faq

Also interesting is the apparent association by use of an outline. For some reason, I get a keyboard association. Like he learned some type of key set and then would write based on that key set. An example would be using the phone keypad to type a message.

A = 21
B = 22
C = 23
D = 31

Only the absence of punctuation leads away from a straight substitution cypher.


31 posted on 03/29/2011 1:37:38 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: agere_contra; faq

Also interesting is the apparent association by use of an outline. For some reason, I get a keyboard association. Like he learned some type of key set and then would write based on that key set. An example would be using the phone keypad to type a message.

A = 21
B = 22
C = 23
D = 31

Only the absence of punctuation leads away from a straight substitution cypher.


32 posted on 03/29/2011 1:37:52 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: OL Hickory

Maybe the FBI could help us decrypt what the hell we are doing in Libya.


33 posted on 03/29/2011 1:57:52 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: OL Hickory

Cool, just wish they had provided some biographical information about the victim. These are obviously very personal notes.


34 posted on 03/29/2011 2:02:11 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

I went looking for more info on this guy, seems a little interesting that if you are trying to solve a puzzle you might want as much info as possible and you know that the govt has much more than he died with 2 pieces of paper in his pocket. It took me a while, but here’s a little more:

From the St Louis Post Dispatch, early July 99

He was found in a cornfield off Hwy 367 west of West Alton by a woman around noon. He had “addresses” in St Louis, Belleville, and Fairview Heights. Seems a little interesting that this individual has 3 residences within 20 miles of each other. 2 or them are within 10 miles of each other on the IL side. That’s about all I found out.


35 posted on 03/29/2011 8:33:27 PM PDT by Minka (More info)
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To: Minka

The stuff could just be gibberish. Letter patterns gathered like a bower bird gathers odds and ends.


36 posted on 03/29/2011 8:36:02 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Minka

Still not enough. What was the man’s daily life, his hobbies, his job — if he had one?


37 posted on 03/29/2011 8:38:21 PM PDT by bvw
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To: OL Hickory

They could just findsomeone who can decipher the tax code, except for the fact that no such person exists.


38 posted on 03/29/2011 8:43:51 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: agere_contra
The patterns “WLDNCBE” and “NCBE” repeat a lot in one message.

I was thinking along that line too, but I'm sure they've already used word frequency analysis on this thing. Either that or they need to fire their crypto analysts.

39 posted on 03/30/2011 8:00:51 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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