Skip to comments.A Chilling Study in Cause and Effect - Finding the true cause of the Kandahar Riots
Posted on 04/03/2011 6:05:16 PM PDT by jfd1776
In a small town in Florida on March 20, the pastor of a small church held a public event: burning a koran for his audience and a video camera. His American Christian audience reacted as one would expect from them: they were happy to be a part of this provocative event; they returned to their homes and jobs after the service, and went on with their lives.
The world continued to turn nobody of substance cared about Pastor Jones latest attempt at news coverage until almost two weeks later, when it made the news half a planet away, in Afghanistan.
The president of Afghanistan denounced the event; imams and mullahs hammered it in their mosques. Their Afghan muslim audience reacted as one would expect from them: they streamed out into the streets, hunting down foreigners, beating hundreds of UN aides, NATO staffers, contractors, travelers, journalists, soldiers rioting in the streets, burning the shops in their own neighborhoods, destroying property, attacking innocent bystanders. At least a hundred injuries and dozens of killings were confirmed by the second day of the riots.
In a world in which thousands die tragically every day from starvation to murder, from disease and neglect these events might not seem particularly newsworthy. When arent there riots in that part of the world? When arent innocents killed? It happens every day.
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I suspect it was caused by community organizers who deserve some serious lead therapy.
This so-called Christian minister has blood on his hands. And for what? A publicity stunt.
Did you know Islam is a religion of peace, tolerance and mercy?
I believe it really was because of the civilian killings and the taking of photos of the “trophies” by the US servicemen. But that would reflect badly on “The One”, just as Al Ghraib did on Bush, so they deflected it to this stupid pastor, with the willingness of the MSM.
It’s amazing that the media is ready to tar and feather Jones for this HOWEVER, when a young female CBS journalist is raped, sexually assaulted and debased by Egyptian “rebels,” they scurry her off and not a peep about the depravity of the Muslims who committed such atrocities. Were there burnings of mosques in the US following such terrible acts? Were there killings or beheadings? Of course not, but regardless, the liberals here will ignore Islamic violence and try to convince everyone that it’s only because of Jones (or Bush, or whoever) that the muslims try to kill us.
It’s the media’s fault for reporting it.
They chose what stories get the grease.
No it is the Ahole’s fault entirely. It he doesn’t do it there is nothing for the media to report.
This so-called Christian minister has blood on his hands
As opposed to the actual people who set structures on fire, rioted and killed innocent people. Your moral compass is broken. I hope to God you never are on a jury pool you would probably call for the judge to be executed.
Are our women soldiers second class??
Dumb, very, very dumb!
(but of course, most PC decisions are very, very dumb!)
I don’t really think that computes. Are we prepared to give up our freedoms because gangs of murderous killers go around killing people randomly and chopping off their heads, after having been stirred up by clerics driving around with loudspeakers?
If some Muslim jerk half way around the world says, “Stop doing that!” are we obliged to obey?
If we do, then we are already dhimmis, cowering in fear of our Muslim masters.
Whether or not you think it is nice to burn Korans, that kind of insane response simply cannot be tolerated.
t2buckeye, you nailed it.
However offended the muslims are at a koran burning, they have every right to be angry, every right to think the west is rude, every right to refuse to trade with us, to buy our goods on the open market.
but it does not give them the right to commit mayhem and murder. Anyone who blames Jones for this is giving in to the worst kind of political blackmail.
As you said, t2buckeye, we don’t attack innocent muslims just because other guilty muslims assaulted or killed our innocents. Those that react like that are barbarians — savages.
“This so-called Christian minister has blood on his hands. And for what? A publicity stunt.”
No to prove a point...which is that Islam is an INTOLERANT religion, even to the point of killing innocent people over a book burning.
That may all be obvious to us FReepers, but there are A LOT of people at all levels of government in Western countries, that have NO CLUE about this little characteristic of Islam.
I’m glad he’s bringing it out, but I wish he didn’t have to.
He is endangering our people and for NO reason except his own self-aggrandizement.
There is no need to give these creeps any more reasons to resort to violence. They do it every day all over Africa and the Middle East.
Don’t pretend that Minister Moron is doing anything except accomplishing Satan’s work. Christ would have NOTHING to do with stunts like this.
No, it’s really the fault of the animals who killed all those people.
Every drop of blood is to be laid on Minister Moron’s head.
“Dont pretend that Minister Moron is doing anything except accomplishing Satans work. Christ would have NOTHING to do with stunts like this.”
I’ll agree with that part of it...using a church as a cover doesn’t help.
But I also agree with the way he’s helping to get the message out...which seems to be a REALLY, REALLY, difficult thing to do - despite them flying planes into buildings.
Maybe if just once somebody would mow down the mother f*ckers when they rampage, it won’t happen again, even if 10,000 Korans were burned.
The problem is they don’t fear us.
Your kind of reasoning fits right in with the animals.
No, they were caused by satan pitching a fit and passing it on to his minions.
And whom did he kill?
Who knows. Maybe we didn't apologize enough.
You don’t cover yourself with blood and jump in the shark pool. Minister Moron makes our job in Afghanistan much more difficult with such stunts. Our soldiers pay with their lives it isn’t some childish game.
My moral compass points to the FACT that Christ would never approve of such things. He believed in treating people with respect no matter their religion or moral failings. I don’t remember him picking up any stones or leading the pack ready to kill.
Innocent people died because of Minister Moron’s publicity stunt.
We are obliged to make our soldiers’ jobs easier not complicate them with self-aggrandizing publicity stunts.
So your theory is to try and make the Islamics hate us even more and verify what they are told by their imans that the west in anti-Islam and trying to destroy their religion. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
Minister Moron is endangering our men and our mission for non-christian reasons. Is that his idea of loving his fellow man?
No, Minister Moron is provoking them to fly even MORE planes into buildings. Is he working in conjunction with Osama? Is he a terrorist?
You get the message out by understanding how Islam is different from Christianity and patiently explaining that difference to people from all walks of life.
Should he burn the Book of Mormon too? Or the Buddhist texts or the Homeric Hymns?
Fool. How could the Christian minister make Muslims kill? Did he hold a gun to their heads? No they kill because they are Muslims.
So our female soldiers go around with unprotected heads to make the barbarians happy? Not very smart on our part.
I wonder what would happen if we burn them in every city?
sorta like desensitation
as has been done with every Bible discovered by muslims
We have a mission in Afghanistan and this sorry sack of shiite endangers it and all those serving our nation.
He is obviously a satanic moron and there is nothing Christian in these stunts, nothing.
Is he working in conjunction with OBL’s spring recruitment drive? Is he paid by the amount of blood shed?
Thatis so stupid a comment as to be insane.
Let me help. I SPIT on the Koran, and somebody in Afghanistan kills somebody else, netiher of wom I know. How is that my fault?
Muslims disrespect Christians and the Bibles everyday, yet how many are killed for it? Zero would be my guess.
But say I killed a Muslim over the fact. So I am innocent of any crime?
Or are you of the type that doesn’t concern itself with the defects and crimes of non-Western cultures because they were colonized or something?
“You get the message out by understanding how Islam is different from Christianity and patiently explaining that difference to people from all walks of life.”
That approach doesn’t seem to be working very well, at least for the people that count (i.e., political leaders).
“Should he burn the Book of Mormon too? Or the Buddhist texts or the Homeric Hymns?”
He could burn copies of those texts, but I’d expect the result of his efforts would be a big yawn...and I know it would be with the Book of Mormon (i.e., they have better things to do than run around like mad when someone burns their book).
...and that is his point.
Just what is our “mission” in Afghanistan, anyway?
My reasoning is simply asking “What Would Christ Do?”
And the answer is not even questionable. No one here has even claimed that this is a Christian act. That clearly proves that it is wrong.
Maybe you have forgotten the incident with the moneychangers??
Maybe you forgot the contemptuous terms with which he referred to the “scribes and Pharisees”
Christ wasn’t the milksop so many uninformed people take him to be.
BINGO!!!! We have a winner.
I agree. So from now on, we're only going to say nice things about Islam here on FR.
Christ wouldn’t have cut off the head of a human being because somebody burned his favorite book.
You just saw how and I’m the fool? LoL we wouldn’t even be having this conversation but for Minister Moron the phony Christian.
So what was your reaction when they rioted over the mohammed cartoon in the Danish newspaper? Evil Danish Newspaper?
When you shove your stupidity into someone else’s face it is your fault when you get slugged by him. This little cowardly phony Christian does not have to face the consequences of his stupidity our soldiers do.
We are in Afghanistan to accomplish a purpose why would you support a cowardly phony who makes that harder for us? While I don’t advocate insulting people unnecessarily I would not be upset if someone acted out such stunts IF OUR TROOPS’ JOBS WERE NOT MADE MORE DIFFICULT. That is not the case here.
[Its the medias fault for reporting it.
They chose what stories get the grease.]
Today’s winner, folks.
let him burn whatever book he chooses
this is America - we are free to do such things
the minister isn’t provoking anyone - the immans are - when you finally come to the understanding that our very existence as ‘infidels’ is provoking, you will realize there will never be appeasement, ever - ever. Just look to Israel for all the example you’ll ever need.
muslims need to get over themselves.
And it was General Petraeus who gave the stupid pastor all the publicity, when he publicly warned him. Before that, hardly anybody in Afghanistan even knew who this podunk pastor was, when Petraeus was finished....everybody knew who he was.
At present it is to install and protect a pro-American government and destroy the Taliban to the extent possible. It is also to show the people that America is not there to destroy their culture or religion. It is a very complex attempt unlike any of our former wars.
Look I despise Islam and believe it to be the work of Satan but it cannot be attacked directly and destroyed without destroying hundreds of millions of people. Americans are not Nazis and won’t support such a thing. I support those things which can actually lead to the destruction or reform of Islam not self-aggrandizing phony preachers’ stunts.
If I were so offended by your post that I went out and slaughtered a bus load of nuns, would it be your fault? Perhaps you should be careful of what you post. You might have blood on your hands.