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Trump sees bankruptcy as a competitive advantage
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Posted on 04/10/2011 8:43:48 PM PDT by mnehring

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To: mnehring

Mirror image is right. No doubt about it.

Trump and Giuliani, two liberal Republicans in the fast lane.


41 posted on 04/10/2011 9:19:28 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: All
Trump on the issues.

Just to put it in comparison, here is Rudy's policy chart.

..and Bill Clinton's chart

From ontheissues.org He is way closer to Bill Clinton than he is someone we all agree is a RINO.

42 posted on 04/10/2011 9:20:24 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Reagan Man

See #42, He is actually a lot closer to Bill Clinton on issues than he is Rudy. Heck, he actually makes Rudy look Conservative.


43 posted on 04/10/2011 9:21:22 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Rudy's history of liberal policies because of how he handled 9/11 and his stand on the WOT.

Yes, well how Rudy handled 9/11 was a reaction to a disaster, a crisis, an attack. Not economic which is where the US is bleeding right now. Rudy's handling of the attack of the Twin Towers and running and economics seems to be comparing apples to oranges, don't you think?

A lot of policies identical to Trump's.

Trump's policies based on which office of government he has held?

44 posted on 04/10/2011 9:25:23 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: screaminsunshine
" I agree. The USA should declare it and start over. "

In the old nation of Israel it was called the year of Jubilee.
After 7 or 50 years, all debts were canceled, slaves were freed, and lands that were taken away from someone was restored to the original owners.
45 posted on 04/10/2011 9:26:09 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: tsowellfan
Trump's policies based on which office of government he has held?

Positions he has taken such as policies he has directly supported and politicians he has supported financially. Such as supporting Obamacare or his history of donations to Democrats by a greater margin than Republicans. Michelle Malkin had a good piece on it. Also, ontheissues.org has a good break down policy by policy. Actually going back, I found he is almost identical to Bill Clinton on policy, Rudy wasn't the best example looking at Trump's whole history. He makes Rudy look Conservative.

46 posted on 04/10/2011 9:27:44 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
He is actually a lot closer to Bill Clinton on issues than he is Rudy. Heck, he actually makes Rudy look Conservative.

I don't see how you can judge a man's issues who has not yet help political office and he's just starting to tell where he stands.

47 posted on 04/10/2011 9:28:31 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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He has been telling us where he stands for years, mostly with his pocket book on what he supports and finances. He is no mystery. We have a long documented history of Trump and it isn’t standing for Conservative causes. We don’t need to take his pandering for the camera now at face value, we can weigh it by his history to see if he is telling the truth.


48 posted on 04/10/2011 9:30:54 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Joann37
" Trump has many, many, MANY faults, but sad to say, he’s probably the only one who can beat 0bama. "

Being objective, and not siding with Trump, all of us, yes, that means all of us have our own faults and we are not prefect.
The thing from making mistakes is to learn from them and move on.
The problem with Obama is not making mistakes, the problem is ? the mistakes ( deliberate mistakes ) and agenda of his and his people are intentional to destroy America's place and power in the world.
Whether you like Donald Trump or not, America hater he is not.
Donald Trump is not a America hater, and he put's America and capitalism first.
He loves America, and he loves our troops.

49 posted on 04/10/2011 9:33:45 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: mnehring
I like OntheIssues website for their posting of good hard facts and a multitude of relevant quotes that pin candidates down on individual issues. However, I don't think their political charting takes into account certain factors that pertain to last minute political conversions and policy flip-flops.

They place Giuliani in the conservative quadrant. I don't buy it. Trump and Giuliani are liberals and nothing anyone says will ever change that. Same goes for Romney.

50 posted on 04/10/2011 9:35:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: mnehring
Donald John Trump, born June 14th, 1946, was the son of Fred Trump, a multi-billion dollar real estate mogul.

"By the time of his death, [Fred] Trump had amassed a $400 million estate" - Wikipedia

51 posted on 04/10/2011 9:36:53 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: mnehring
Number one - Trump calls Obamacare a disaster and has said that as President he would lift restrictions so that the purchase of health insurance from other states would be allowed. He blames the high cost of health insurance on the lack of competition.

And if I had a business in New York City you can bet I would also be donating to at least both sides as well especially if it will get me favors.

GE paid zero taxes last year for doing that.

As long as it's still legal, you gotta do what you gotta do to keep up with the competition.

Let's not forget, George W Bush passed the medical prescription bill. Trump wants more competition among health insurance companies. Which of those 2 ideas is less socialist?

52 posted on 04/10/2011 9:37:22 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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“He takes big risks but uses the government bankruptcy system to his advantage so he doesn’t face the consequence of massive debt that doesn’t reap a return”

Isn’t that “just business”? Who is extending credit to him? He can’t have debt without someone willing to loan. And if they’re willing to loan they must foresee a profit from doing so.


53 posted on 04/10/2011 9:42:09 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: mnehring
If by conservative causes you refer social conservative issues that have no connection to our economy or the US Constitution all I can say is the general public democrats (those who are not party above America), independents and republicans will be voting their pocket book FIRST this November 2012.

Without money, your children starve.

Without a job, your family could end up homeless

This is going to be the vote for personal survival and not putting a social issue above ones own family.

For social issues we're going to be looking for candidates in the Senate and Congress.

I have seen no evidence that even if trump were pro-choice (and I don't know that he is - I heard he is PRO-LIFE)he's certainly not a pro-choice activist and I doubt any judges he appoints would reflect that and even if it did... we have a Senate to win and need more seats in Congress to assure no passage whether it's Donald Trump in office or another four years of Obama.

Why would anyone worry about social issues of the President when it's either Obama or someone different. Either Obama will win another 4 years of socialism or at the very worst 4 years of a republican. That's the choice.

In the case that Obama may win again we need to assure he will be the lamest duck we've ever seen in the White House in our lifetime. As long as we can assure that, we are safe with a business savvy President.

54 posted on 04/10/2011 9:51:47 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: count-your-change
>>>>>Isn’t that “just business”?

Yes. Something can be legal and at the same time, unethical.

I always saw Trump as an unethical lout. A bottomfeeder.

55 posted on 04/10/2011 9:53:34 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: mnehring

Trying to trash Trump because he is trashing Obama’s? Get lost.


56 posted on 04/10/2011 9:55:58 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: tsowellfan

How about Trump’s support of progressive income taxes? How about his support of socialized medicine? How about his history of thinking debt is something that can be run-up and just ‘written off’ and spending your way out of a situation?

Yea, he found a loophole that works in his business (with the advantage of inheriting a massive buffer from his dad), but in government, it results in the exact same situation we are in now.


57 posted on 04/10/2011 9:56:26 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: CodeToad

Trashing Trump because he is Bill Clinton on the issues with an R behind his name.


58 posted on 04/10/2011 9:57:14 PM PDT by mnehring
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That's right, $1.8 billion in debt will be cut by $544 million dollars, and the interest rate on the remianing portion of the debt will be reduced from about 12% to 7.875%.

Let the bond holder beware!

59 posted on 04/10/2011 9:57:29 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: Reagan Man
Bottom line. Unless there is an Obama economic boom the top candidates are and probably will be Romney and Trump.

Which of the other candidates have the knowledge of business and economics that these two guys have?

Romney would not be able to beat Obama. Romney has a history. As governor he had had own version of “Obamacare”. He would not be able to debate Obama seriously with any credibility on Obamacare without laughs coming from the audience. Romney has a proven history as Governor as a RINO. Romney is much like McCain... he is too nice and will let the democrats and Obama walk all over him.

Who does that leave?

It leaves Trump and whatever other candidate on our side that has as much knowledge in economic and business as Trump.

So, who is it? And will America vote for that person?

60 posted on 04/10/2011 9:59:51 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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