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Arizona Senate Passes Proof of Eligibility Legislation; One Step Closer To... Got Papers!?
ObamaRelease YourRecords ^ | April 14, 2011 | ObamaRelease YourRecords

Posted on 04/13/2011 12:24:58 PM PDT by patlin

The Arizona legislation just passed HB 2177 in the Senate and it now moves on to the Arizona House and then to Gov...

reported that passed 21-9, however, specific vote count not confirmed yet

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; az; birthcertificate; certifigate; elections; eligibility; legislation; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: rxsid

The diversion from the Constitutional Natural Born Citizen requirement to merely born here is working.


21 posted on 04/13/2011 1:52:35 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: omegadawn
"It appears obama is still one step ahead of Arizona, the current short form is now the new legal document. He will submit it and demand that they accept it."

He'd have to find a way around this:

b) a certified birth certificate that includes:

i. the date and place of birth,

ii. the names of the hospital and the attending physician, and

iii. signatures of any witnesses in attendance if applicable."

22 posted on 04/13/2011 1:53:00 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: patlin
The submissions.

Abercrombie's Obama BC

23 posted on 04/13/2011 1:53:31 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: patlin

Wake me up when it passes the House.


24 posted on 04/13/2011 1:54:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: Red Steel
Indeed. I just wonder though, with all the pressure and heat she's had to withstand (and thank goodness she has), if she might be more inclined to pass on this additional hot potato.

I sure hope she doesn't.

25 posted on 04/13/2011 1:54:59 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Question is, will the Governor sign it after being paid a visit!?!?

That was my first thought, too. I remember trying to contact her (while she was still the Secretary of State)and/or her office before the election to see what the requirements were. Never did get an answer. I do LOVE her as a Governor so she'd better sign it!!

26 posted on 04/13/2011 1:58:03 PM PDT by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Red Steel

LOL


27 posted on 04/13/2011 2:09:40 PM PDT by patlin (Reagan was a Democrat before he was a Republican: "I didn't leave the Democrat Party, they left me")
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To: rxsid

There is going to be a Constitutional challenge to this, based on Art. IV.

“Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.”

Hawaii was admitted as a state—a mistake in my opinion—but we are stuck with it. Hawaii will assert that this is the way they keep their Vital Statistic records under their laws, and the COLB is our way-—it is thus official when it comes with the State Seal. No other state can, under the Constitution, reject this under Art 4.

There have been some court cases that weaken this position, but it will surely be argued that drivers licenses issued in Hawaii are recognized as valid in other states and by TSA. Death certificates are recognized by SS and commercial companies. It seems unlikely that birth certificates will be cast into an exceptional category.

SCOTUS’s conservatives will surely rule in favor of Hawaii’s state’s rights to be treated equally as to their birth certificate forms.


28 posted on 04/13/2011 2:38:07 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: rxsid
Amendments Adopted by Committee

1. Removes parental requirements needed to run for or hold office or to be put on the ballot.

Wait just a second. Does that mean they're folding on the TWO CITIZEN PARENTS NBC?

29 posted on 04/13/2011 2:44:17 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: saltus
Running for office isn't a Constitutionally protected right so far as I know.

Barry, by his choice, will run for office. If he chooses to be placed on the ballot in AZ, he will have to conform to their state law. He is free to choose not to be placed on their ballot.

30 posted on 04/13/2011 2:45:35 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

What obama attorneys are going to say is that the new “certified” short form is backed up with a document on file in Hawaii with all the necessary information. Of course obama will not release that document(long form) for privacy reasons.

I do not believe that obama was born in Hawaii and does not have a legal long form.

obama is not and never will be the legal President of the United States.


31 posted on 04/13/2011 2:48:26 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: bgill
"Amendments Adopted by Committee

1. Removes parental requirements needed to run for or hold office or to be put on the ballot.

Wait just a second. Does that mean they're folding on the TWO CITIZEN PARENTS NBC?

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It appears they did, just as Leo pointed out the sneaky language a while back. It appears to me, at this point, that this is their "compromise."

32 posted on 04/13/2011 2:48:35 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

What obama attorneys are going to say is that the new “certified” short form is backed up with a document on file in Hawaii with all the necessary information. Of course obama will not release that document(long form) for privacy reasons.

I do not believe that obama was born in Hawaii and does not have a legal long form.

obama is not and never will be the legal President of the United States.


33 posted on 04/13/2011 2:48:56 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: bgill
I should add, that it could be they realized that they (state Legislatures) do not have the authority to define the requirement for who may be considered a "natural born Citizen" as required for AII,S1,C5 of the U.S. Constitution.

The U.S. Congress tried to do just that back in 1790, and reversed themselves in 1795.

34 posted on 04/13/2011 2:52:34 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Arizona, aka The RAT Pimp McLame, did nothing but insure Hussein’s right to hold office. HI has said this digital bs is their only official BC proof (lie!) so he’s good to go without the parental requirement attached. Now, the talking points will be, “But, but, gee whiz, what do you Birthers want?!? You wanted this bill and we gave it to you and The Won is still eligibile, so there, neener, neener!!!”

No, this is NOT going to help our cause. It is a major 47 steps backward.


35 posted on 04/13/2011 3:00:55 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: rxsid

Seems Arizona politicians have seen all the birth certificate threads posted on free republic..the natural born citizen threads..’went thataway’

If one goes hurt hare hunting and catches two..you do not let one of them go.

Never understood the frenzy on FR of the BC and not two citizen parents.


36 posted on 04/13/2011 3:21:02 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

Me neither.


37 posted on 04/13/2011 3:22:00 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Red Steel

LOL!

You should add an official seal of the newspaper announcement!! Then a second signature by his half-sister!!


38 posted on 04/13/2011 3:56:08 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Red Steel

“The last I looked, this law gave any citizen the power in AZ the ability to challenge Obama’s documentation if Obama showed up with an abstract COLB.”

Excellent.


39 posted on 04/13/2011 4:09:28 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: patlin; Red Steel

OffiShal Seal

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40 posted on 04/13/2011 4:15:48 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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