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Birth Certificate Released… What Else Will Drop Today?
Grand Rants ^ | 04-27-11 | Gerry Ashley

Posted on 04/27/2011 7:42:52 AM PDT by Stoutcat

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To: philman_36

Big of you, running your errands to give me time.

I’m quite sure I have more errands that you.

You keep misconstruing my posts. OBVIOUSLY the Art II reQuirements are binding law. Ascertaining age and residency is trivial.

With no Art II definition, no US Code, and no binding o precedent, there is no VALID method to exclude a candidate for lacking NBC status, other than birth elsewhere and naturalized status.

It’s my opinion that a ruling that Vattel’s definition applied in this case will never be made, and if it were written into the US Code (a very good idea), it would not operate retroactively.


61 posted on 04/27/2011 3:20:40 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: TalonDJ

I’ll be happy to stand corrected, but can you cite for me where the qualifications are clearly stated? You may well be right. What I might have defined is simply “American Citizenship” and NOT “Natural Born.” If I’m incorrect, please cite your source for the edification of all of us (myself included). Thanks.


62 posted on 04/27/2011 3:26:50 PM PDT by BigChiefLtd (They said the Titanic couldn't sink too...)
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To: Jim Noble
OBVIOUSLY the Art II reQuirements are binding law.
But...but...you said...
Your “2 citizen parents” argument is not valid US law.

With no Art II definition...
There aren't definitions for a lot of things in the Constitution. For instance, can you find a definition of "miltia" in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15? Nope. You have to look elsewhere for a definition.

...no US Code...
And even when the Militia Act of 1792 was passed there was still no definition therein of the word "militia". There was no need to define it as its plain meaning was understood, just like natural born citizen was understood to have a plain meaning.

...there is no VALID method to exclude a candidate for lacking NBC status, other than birth elsewhere and naturalized status.
Sure there is. It simply wasn't utilized.

It’s my opinion...
Well thanks for sharing your opinion.

So in your eyes, and correct me if I'm wrong here, since there is no definition of natural born citizen that you find acceptable and since there is neither a "valid" law or "valid" method in place to prohibit anyone from running for POTUS then the whole matter is moot and should be dropped...right?

63 posted on 04/27/2011 4:20:38 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

In terms of getting “Obama”, or whatever his name is removed from office by Congressional or judicial action, yes, I believe the issue is moot.


64 posted on 04/27/2011 4:41:11 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: Jim Noble
...I believe the issue is moot.
Believe, then, as you will. The issue isn't moot to me.
65 posted on 04/27/2011 5:16:56 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

“The issue isn’t moot with me”

Best of luck, then.


66 posted on 04/27/2011 5:27:53 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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Best of luck, then.
Thanks.
67 posted on 04/27/2011 5:29:20 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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