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Fool Me Once, Shame On You...
Youtube ^ | April 27, 2011 | Chatter4

Posted on 04/27/2011 5:50:11 PM PDT by chatter4

video-Now for the second time, in less than three years, Obama claims that he has released his "original birth certificate". Again, he has only released a computer image, a PDF file, that does not contain a State Seal and if it is a real document, it is printed on the wrong type of paper.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: certifigate; congress; corruption; elections; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; teaparty

1 posted on 04/27/2011 5:50:13 PM PDT by chatter4
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To: chatter4
Again, he has only released a computer image, a PDF file, that does not contain a State Seal

How does this poster expect it be released to the public, if not via a computer file?

Apparently an actual paper copy was passed around for the reporters at the press conference to look at.

As for the seal, okay. But it's accompanied by a letter from no lesser authority than the Director of the Hawaii State Health Department testifying as to its authenticity. The top dog in the State. Isn't that worth at least as much as a seal affixed by some low-level peon?

2 posted on 04/27/2011 5:56:54 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: chatter4

In four years, even I could forge a birth certificate.


3 posted on 04/27/2011 5:59:12 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: chatter4
It looks real to me:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ap_obama_certificate_dm_110427.pdf

4 posted on 04/27/2011 6:02:12 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: Jeff Winston

Apparently you have not seen the multiple levels on the PDF Document, with the green image scrubbed away to make room for more data. It’s all over FreeRepublic.com.


5 posted on 04/27/2011 6:02:53 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: chatter4

Why would I bother listening to 6 minutes of this guy blathering on?


6 posted on 04/27/2011 6:04:45 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: pabianice

ditto


7 posted on 04/27/2011 6:05:17 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: chatter4

Here is the Problem with Obama’s Birth Certificate..... Kenya was not so named until December 1963!!! It was British East Africa Protectorate - Also Hospital name Was not that name until 1978!!!!!!

Story at:
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2011/04/here-is-problem-with-obamas-birth.html


8 posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:10 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: chatter4

Who is the guy narrating this? Do you have any idea? Some interesting points.

I’m just catching up on the news from today. Hunkering down for another storm to move through GA so I’m rushing to get all the reading done at FR while I can.....

Thanks.


9 posted on 04/27/2011 6:15:40 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: preacher

That’s incorrect. It became the colony of Kenya in 1920.


10 posted on 04/27/2011 6:19:04 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: preacher

You should probably read the comments to her dunderheaded article before proclaiming it to be the troof. It appears her “debunking” (at least as far as teh hospital name goes) debunked herself.

Whoops.


11 posted on 04/27/2011 6:20:02 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: Thank You Rush

Sounds like a feeble Jessie Ventura


12 posted on 04/27/2011 6:21:37 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: whattajoke

Reading all of the stuff today about the birth certificate “forgery” gives me insight into how all of the 9/11 Truther garbage got started. Half truths and outright lies (like Kenya not being known as such until 1963) are like a snowball running downhill. They’re too fast and heavy to stop.


13 posted on 04/27/2011 6:23:01 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: whattajoke

We do have a question as to the attending physician. They appear to be two different gentlemen. Has anyone worked that one out yet. The African appears ok. The number sequence is still in question. It is not the Long Form. It is another COLB despite the rejoicing in the press. Kenya maybe ok too. The layers? I just don’t know where we stand on the whole thing.


14 posted on 04/27/2011 6:25:37 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: stickywillie

Oh, believe me, I’ve seen it. I’ve been in on discussions as to why the white areas exist (the software that separated the document out into layers didn’t know what was behind the dark text it pulled out into a separate layer, so it left that blank in the other layer it pulled out). And I’ve personally considered and analyzed why it is that the layers form no human logical units:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711500/posts?page=26#26

Apparently this is what you GET when Acrobat dissects a scanned document to try and pull out the text to make it text-searchable. One or two people have mentioned testing it for themselves.


15 posted on 04/27/2011 6:26:08 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: preacher

Hospital name is the exact same as on the Nordyke twin’s birth certificate.

As for Kenya, National Geographic’s 1960 world map (available on the web shows Kenya as part of a larger British territory, but it is clearly delineated and named “Kenya.”

Incidentally, such an authority as National Geographic referred to what you have identified as “British East Africa Protectorate” as “Tr. Terr. UK.”

Americans until the dissolution of the Soviet Union (whose official name was “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics” referred to that country as “Russia,” even though Russia was only its largest state. Americans to this day refer to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as “England.”

Do you really think a state employee in Hawaii in 1961 would’ve referred to what was popularly known as Kenya as either “British East Africa Protectorate” or “Tr. Terr. UK?”


16 posted on 04/27/2011 6:34:20 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

It’s the long form. We’ve been over that a bunch of times already.

As for the layers, we’ve been over that too. Personally, I’m satisfied that there’s no identifiable smoking gun there. See my earlier posts as to why.

I’m not “certifying” that Obama was born in Hawaii. But at this point, I see no good reason not to accept the testimony of the Hawaii State Health Director that he was.


17 posted on 04/27/2011 6:37:09 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: GunRunner

GR, I appreciate your efforts to keep people honest.


18 posted on 04/27/2011 6:39:13 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
Unlike Obama, I don't need half-truths or outright lies to show that the orher side is wrong.

I have a feeling that "layers in the birth certificate" is going to be our version of "fire doesn't melt steel."

19 posted on 04/27/2011 7:09:06 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: chatter4

The Birthers have already been fooled more than twice.


20 posted on 04/28/2011 6:17:40 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: preacher

“Here is the Problem with Obama’s Birth Certificate..... Kenya was not so named until December 1963!!! It was British East Africa Protectorate”

I take it that history and geography were not your best subjects.


21 posted on 04/28/2011 6:27:05 PM PDT by trumandogz
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