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Does Obama’s long form birth certificate clear him or prove he’s not a natural born citizen?
coachisright.com ^ | May 1, 2011 | Suzanne Eovaldi, staff writer

Posted on 05/01/2011 7:36:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Did Barack Obama just stop his own possible bloodless coup d’etat in its tracks when he released his long form birth certificate? He now clearly reveals his father was a subject of the British Royal Crown rendering him, Barack Obama II, ineligible to assume the U.S. Presidency!

“Obama Sr. was a member of the Luo tribe from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya, which at the time was still a British colony,” writes Aaron Klein with researcher Brenda J. Elliott, for World Net Daily. Our U.S. Constitution states: Article. II. Section. 1. “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of the President. . .”

”The Manchurian President” authors cite the theory of Swiss legal philosopher Emmerich de Vattel who was read by our Founding Fathers. “De Vattel writes in Book 1, Chapter 19, “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who were citizens. . .In order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

The fact that Barack Obama does not meet the natural born requirement was a key argument in the Kerchner v. Obama….

Now, Jerome Corsi, …..revealing an inconvenient truth posed by the birth of the Nordyke twin girls. He says, “As WND reported, the long-form birth certificates issued by Kapi’olani to the Nordyke twins have certificate numbers lower than the number given Obama, even though the president purportedly was born at the same hospital a day earlier than the Nordykes…

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At first I thought the sequential number problem was solved by the Left's pointing out that the numbers where issued from two different locations, but that argument goes out the window with the new information that both the twins and Obama where born in the same hospital.

IF there were two different offices issuing birth certificates in the town at that time (which is unlikely) that fact is now rendered meaningless because there could not have been two different issuing officesat the same hospital. This document is a phony and this is not over.

1 posted on 05/01/2011 7:36:55 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

What long form birth certificate?
I haven’t seen one yet. Only a bad forgerie.


2 posted on 05/01/2011 7:38:17 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: jmaroneps37
This is the first "legal" proof of his Dual born citizenship.

He's not eligible, and needs to be removed from office ASAP!

3 posted on 05/01/2011 7:39:13 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: jmaroneps37

It clears him. This issue? It’s dead. On to actual policy differences!


4 posted on 05/01/2011 7:39:13 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: jmaroneps37

It will never be over, because you can’t stop a conspiracy theory with talk, facts, or a message from God Almighty.

On the other issue, I’ve wondered if this means that a child of a single mother can’t be President, if the woman can’t prove who the father is.

I also guess it would preclude an adopted child, as the birth parents might well be unknown. And what about in-vitro fertilization; do we have to know the citizenship of the sperm and egg donors?

It has always been known that the man Obama claimed as his father was not a citizen. The argument over natural born citizen has always revolved around that question, although it was effectively obscured by the easier to understand and therefore simple distraction of Obama’s birth certificate.


5 posted on 05/01/2011 7:42:18 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jmaroneps37
Our U.S. Constitution states: Article. II. Section. 1. “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of the President. . .”

Yeah, well, then there's that whole 14th Amendment thing....

Amendment Text | Annotations

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

6 posted on 05/01/2011 7:44:03 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Grunthor

It clears him. This issue? It’s dead. On to actual policy differences!


It’s only dead if the US Constitution is dead. Acrime against the Constitution has been committed, and you want to look the other way?

In the comments section:

http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/obama-cant-defeat-his-own-strawman/#more-6093

drkate :

… or hidden away!

Keep in mind that WE ALREADY KNOW THE UNAMBIGUOUS LEGAL DEFINITION OF THE TERM-OF-ART “natural born Citizen”!! It was put into the law of this land by the United States Supreme Court decision in the 1875 Minor v. Happersett case and has never been overturned (but even has been recognized and confirmed in other cases since that time). At the time of the decision in Minor it was almost 100 years after the nation’s founding and even now 230-plus years later it still means the same thing. One simplified way of stating this is “born in the US of 2 US citizen parents”.

The actual 1875 Supreme Court opinion in Minor v Happersett:

“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. “ (emphasis added)

This means the simple “born in America of 2 citizen parents” still is the active, pertinent law of our land. It should in conjunction with A2S1C5 of the Constitution, be the law that determines Obama’s fate … of course he and the Flying Monkeys won’t agree; they’d rather just ignore or rewrite the Constitution, but I wouldn’t.


7 posted on 05/01/2011 7:44:54 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: jmaroneps37
I guess the key phrase in The 14th Amendment would be...."and subject to the jurisdiction thereof".

If Ubama was born in Hawaii, was he subject to the jurisdiction thereof if his father was Kenyan?

I don't know. I'm just askin'.

8 posted on 05/01/2011 7:46:00 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Sir, the main issue here is the HONESTLY, or lack thereof by our president. This is only ONE of many hidden facets of his past.

Folks who can pooh-pooh this issue are folks who can be sold bridges and snake oil. This is no conspiracy theory. It’s about honesty and integrity by our nation’s leaders.


9 posted on 05/01/2011 7:46:14 AM PDT by J40000
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To: jmaroneps37

Where is the proof that he is homo sapien?


10 posted on 05/01/2011 7:46:35 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: rawcatslyentist
I agree....The dual citizenship is the problem. Our forfathers wanted the test to be of the highest order...

not the lowest....birth in a parking lot in Dallas by an american citizen married "illegally" to a Mexican drug dealer.

11 posted on 05/01/2011 7:47:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: CharlesWayneCT

There is no conspiracy theory.

There are facts.

On one side is the US Constitution.

On the other side are Obama and Romney
(and his RomneyBOTs on these threads).


12 posted on 05/01/2011 7:49:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: jmaroneps37

It’s a supreme court argument at this point. What I do know is that the framers dealt with the natural born citizen thing twice: once in in the constitution and once in the naturalization act of 1790 which specifically stated that nationality is conferred by the father and that the right of citizenship did “not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States. The framer’s original intent is pretty clear regardless of what people say today.


13 posted on 05/01/2011 7:49:20 AM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Its just more lies from the Marxist.

Lenin concludes that: “History as a whole, and the history of revolutions in particular, is always richer in content, more varied, more multiform, more lively and ingenious than is imagined by even the best parties, the most class-conscious vanguards of the most advanced classes ... Two very important practical conclusions follow from this: first, that in order to accomplish its task the revolutionary class must be able to master all forms or aspects of social activity without exception (completing after the capture of political power — sometimes at great risk and with very great danger—what it did not complete before the capture of power); second, that the revolutionary class must be prepared for the most rapid and brusque replacement of one form by another.”

http://sfr-21.org/lwc.html link


14 posted on 05/01/2011 7:51:38 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: jmaroneps37

He has never been a natural born citizen and he knows it. His sire,( I won’t use the term father because the only father figures he ever had were FMD, Gramps and Lolo) held allegiance to another country, which passed he onto his spawn, IF senior is really his father which I highly question.

That piece of crap he produced to try to help his poll numbers and stop sales of the Corsi book, is laughable. So laughable that I don’t even feel like debating it and picking it apart.

The only way the clown in chief would be a natural born citizen is if he came out and said, Frank Marshall Davis was really my sire. Of course he would be a liar, but still eligible. But he will never do that. He would rather take his chances with his sire being a foreigner than get caught in a lie.

I really don’t think he knows how to tell the truth. His entire life is one big lie.


15 posted on 05/01/2011 7:52:12 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: RC one
John Jay (December 12, 1745 – May 17, 1829), American revolutionary, and the first Chief Justice of the United States
was so concerned about "natural born" being a PREREQUISITE to being POTUS, that he wrote to
Gen. Washington and underlined this in his letter (see below).



"[T]he people are the sovereign of this country, and consequently that
fellow citizens and joint sovereigns cannot be degraded by appearing
with each other in their own courts to have their controversies determined.
The people have reason to prize and rejoice in such valuable privileges,
and they ought not to forget that nothing but the free course
of constitutional law and government can ensure the continuance
and enjoyment of them.
"
[John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia]

16 posted on 05/01/2011 7:53:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Grunthor

Not hardly. It will never be over, NEVER!! Too many inconsistencies,coverups, and lies.


17 posted on 05/01/2011 7:53:24 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: jmaroneps37

The BC is just one piece of the big scam, along with the multiple Identities to game the education system to attend college.
imho


18 posted on 05/01/2011 7:53:34 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I got one question for you; Who in D.C. has the balls to remove him? WHO?

Case closed.


19 posted on 05/01/2011 7:53:57 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
It’s only dead if the US Constitution is dead.

Video: Pelosi Scoffs When Asked Where Constitution Authorizes Ordering Americans To Buy Health

20 posted on 05/01/2011 7:54:04 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: mojitojoe

I once had a “truther” say those very same words to me.


21 posted on 05/01/2011 7:54:48 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Usually when this is cited as proof of the “UNAMBIGUOUS LEGAL DEFINITION OF THE TERM” natural born citizen they leave off this end part.....

“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.”

The “UNAMBIGUOUS LEGAL DEFINITION” has “doubts”?


22 posted on 05/01/2011 7:55:05 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: jmaroneps37

23 posted on 05/01/2011 7:59:14 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: jmaroneps37
1 - The long form has never been released
2 - Long form, short form, or written in crayon, nothing presented thusfar has shown that Baby-Barry is/was an NBC.
3 - The state-run media failed to vet or even challenge candidate Soetoro, and now the grass-roots folks are rising to the occasion.

PS - this is not about race, it is about the attitude of Barry toward the Constitution as a "charter of negative liberties" - he sees no value in it, and proves it daily. For Barry, it is a blank paper you can write anything on, such as "citizen" = "natural born citizen".

24 posted on 05/01/2011 8:00:45 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: Grunthor
Unfortunately it will not be dead until the actual birth certificate has been released. Is it too much to ask Obama the same level of honesty that we ask from our own children.

Until the actual birth certificate has been released and Obama has been proven a natural born citizen the legality of his Presidency will remain in question. That is the root issue not the b*st*rdized MSM equivalent. The certified copy of his long form birth certificate has been sought because it would or would not confirm his status as a natural born citizen and hence his Presidency. Until the actual birth certificate has been released we are not living in a nation of laws but in a nation of men.

Remember, that every nation of men has the ability to legally slaughter their citizens; witness China, USSR, Cambodia, Romania, most African states, and most middle eastern nations. Ever wonder why Israel is exempt from this statement? Perhaps because they are a nation ruled by laws.

25 posted on 05/01/2011 8:02:16 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Texas Eagle

Citizens, not natural born. No anchor baby presidents.


26 posted on 05/01/2011 8:06:32 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Nip

A) Who in D.C. has the balls to make him do what you want?

B) Who in D.C. has the balls to remove him from office if he refuses?

Once you realize that the answer to both questions is “no one” I think that you are intelligent enough to see the futility of your quest and move on to issues that we can actually DO something about.


27 posted on 05/01/2011 8:08:02 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Sacajaweau

It also prevents the “Son of Hitler” scenario! Foreign rule by child proxy.


28 posted on 05/01/2011 8:08:27 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Texas Eagle

See post above yours.


29 posted on 05/01/2011 8:08:27 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: jmaroneps37
If Obama’s bc is real then why do people who claim that lose every debate, argument and discussion in such as uneven and embarrassing way?
30 posted on 05/01/2011 8:13:04 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (How is allowing an Army Doctor be prosecuted and sent to prison "good for the country"?)
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31 posted on 05/01/2011 8:17:27 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: jmaroneps37

Personally, I don’t know whether the present document is for real or not. It’s sad that this president has lied so much about so many things, even if he were to present us with two stone tablets inscribed by God, we wouldn’t believe it. Sure all politicians lie, but this man has raised the practice to an art form.


32 posted on 05/01/2011 8:17:36 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: allmendream
Great catch ~ and then there's the 14th Amendment AND, going beyond that, Congress can pass a law illuminating the meaning ~ plus you could pass a Constitutional amendment and change the whole deal.

Interesting that we have folks who want to use a standard that would have only the father's nationality prevail ~ and yet, those same folks have not recently (at least) claimed we should repeal women's suffrage (although I wouldn't be surprised to see them go after it eh!)

33 posted on 05/01/2011 8:19:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jmaroneps37

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1eQRJILO2U0ZWUwODM0ZDktZTg2OC00Yzc0LWI4YzAtODBkZWU2YjBhZDU1&hl=en&authkey=CKv6_hg

Take a look at page 4. Look at the Oahu on both bc’s. Why is the Nordykes O in Oahu perfectly aligned, but not on barrys?


34 posted on 05/01/2011 8:20:23 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: kabumpo
I guess the confusion arises as The 14th Amendment relates to slavery.

As I understand it, it was designed to grant citizenship to children born of slaves who, quite possibly, were not born in this country themselves.

35 posted on 05/01/2011 8:21:17 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: jmaroneps37
He now clearly reveals his father was a subject of the British Royal Crown rendering him, Barack Obama II, ineligible to assume the U.S. Presidency!

People have been constantly making that statement since long before and after this recent release of the long form BC. And Obama has always claimed that Obama from Kenya is his father.

So, it's pretty obvious that there is no clear legal prohibition on Obama being eligible for the presidency because his father was from Kenya and not a US citizen.

And it's equally clear that what the conditions that make someone a natural born citizen are not so clearly defined legally as to cover all possible conditions of parentage and place of birth.

No matter where anyone stands on the question of Obama's eligibility, it's pretty absurd to continue making the quoted statement above when Obama has always said Obama Sr. was his father , and it has always been known that Obama Sr. is from Kenya and not an American citizen.

If that particular statement were true and accepted as established law, Obama wouldn't have been allowed to run. But it's not accepted law and people should stop pretending that it is.

36 posted on 05/01/2011 8:23:03 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Grunthor; mojitojoe

Why compare truthers to us debunking barrys bc? There were MANY witness’s, and it’s even on tape, watching those freaks fly a plane into the WTC’s.


37 posted on 05/01/2011 8:25:46 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Not sure what you mean. Every negative analysis of the data in the document has resulted in a finding of "could be" or "always is" or "that's how software really works".

I think you'll need to come up with factoids from ANOTHER SOURCE that are contrary to what is seen in this document.

At the moment the biggest problem I see in this particular issue is the ol'gal in Hawaii cannot imagine speaking without lying ~ Okuba? She's a case. The second biggest problem is the apparent inability of Obama to UNNERSTAN there's a long form and a short form ~

You check that ~ it's his apparent inability to UNDERSTAND long and short ~ and if that's not a problem I can't imagine how it couldn't be.

Then there's fat/thin, up/down, and so on.

The third problem is we have a Congress that actually treats this dunce as if he has some political relevance.

The latest document report does little to reduce the cognitive dissonance arising out of each and every emanation of the White House and its running dog lackeys.

38 posted on 05/01/2011 8:26:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Texas Eagle

Note that the Constitution mandates a ‘NATURAL BORN citizen’ for POTUSA. Note that the 14th Amendment addresses the ‘citizen’ only. My take is that the 14th Amendment is merely adjunct to the original Constution as that document also at places speaks only to ‘citizen’. The Founding Fathers made a ‘natural born citizen’ the bedrock for citizenship and used it only as the requirement for POTUSA. Obama is not eligible as POTUSA because the Founding Fathers were intelligent enough to understand there was a need for setting allegience at bedrock for POTUSA for the new Nation. The cases of Arthur and Obama just ‘shows to go’ that the best laid plans of man can be usurped by dishonorable persons intending to do such.


39 posted on 05/01/2011 8:30:30 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: BuffaloJack

http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/


40 posted on 05/01/2011 8:31:25 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Grunthor

I got one question for you; Who in D.C. has the balls to remove him? WHO?

Case closed.


Who had the balls to remove Tricky Dick Nixon who had won in a landslide to secure his second term as President? Nobody.

But the drip, drip, drip of the Woodward and Bernstein investigative reports slowly built a case of a sitting President (unindicted co-conspirator)involved in the cover up a crime.

So what happens when there’s drip drip drip of

-illegal land deal with Rezko and other shady dealings
-election fraud
-forged federal documents (Selective Service Registration)
-use of multiple and fraudulently obtained SSNs

Slowly the picture emerges that a sitting President is not only involved in a cover-up, but he is a criminal. A criminal that the democratic party and the media hoisted upon our nation UNVETTED.

How will that go over with the general populace? time will tell...


41 posted on 05/01/2011 8:32:45 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: jmaroneps37

This will go no where! The Courts are communists/liberal controlled. It is the Courts that have the biggest part in destroying America because they will not uphold the Constitution.


42 posted on 05/01/2011 8:34:51 AM PDT by Logical me
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43 posted on 05/01/2011 8:36:49 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Grunthor

Oh please, give me a break. You cannot compare the two at ALL! The evidence was overwhelming and we saw those planes fly into those buildings. Truthers were people with BDS. Obongo’s BC questions arose because of lies and inconsistencies and things that don’t add up. NOTHING about his past makes sense or adds up.


44 posted on 05/01/2011 8:38:04 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: noinfringers2

“All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.” (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862))

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51843919/Rep-John-Bingham-Father-of-14th-Amendment-Defined-Natural-Born-Citizen


45 posted on 05/01/2011 8:45:01 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: jmaroneps37

Nothing will dissuade people who want to either flog this issue to discredit Obama and/or make a buck off it, or those who simply want to believe that the man is not a natural born citizen.


46 posted on 05/01/2011 8:50:11 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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Just a random thought...

Isn’t the most convenient way for this affair to go away to just concede that Obama Sr’s shotgun wedding was invalid due to his bigamy? If it was an invalid marriage, Obama jr would be a legal bastard and thus fall under NBC due to the mother alone.


47 posted on 05/01/2011 8:51:16 AM PDT by Koschei
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To: Will88

On another note, if we accept that Barry is a NBC even if his father was a British citizen at the time of his birth, does this mean that Marco Rubio (parents from Cuba and may or may not have been citizens at the time of his birth, and Bobby Jindal (parents from India, not citizens at the time of his birth)will not have a problem with this issue if either one of them decides to run for the presidency?


48 posted on 05/01/2011 8:52:09 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
From James Madison, acknowledged as "Father of the Constitution":
It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.

49 posted on 05/01/2011 8:52:15 AM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“Who had the balls to remove Tricky Dick Nixon who had won in a landslide to secure his second term as President? Nobody.

But the drip, drip, drip of the Woodward and Bernstein investigative reports slowly built a case of a sitting President (unindicted co-conspirator)involved in the cover up a crime.”

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Thing is, this time around, there is no real media interest. Much of Fox News is even in bed with this president (O’Reilly for example). No way will they fully investigate.

Nothing is going to come of this. We are stuck with this incompetent at least till the next election. We should now concentrate on finding a true conservative candidate to run against him and ditch Romney, Huckabee and the other RINOs.


50 posted on 05/01/2011 8:52:25 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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