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Online 'birth certificate' document 'was changed'
World Net Daily ^ | May 1, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/01/2011 6:55:07 PM PDT by conservativegramma

A computer document expert who analyzed the online image of Barack Obama's purported Certificate of Live Birth for WND confirmed there are anomalies inconsistent with a simple scanning process, and there is evidence it has been manipulated, but there's no way to determine exactly what may have been modified.

The end result is that while it is known there were changes, the full extent of operations that were done to the image cannot be determined at this point.

It was analyzed by Ivan Zatkovich of Tampa-based eComp Consultants, which consults on intellectual property for telecommunications, web publishing and ecommerce and has provided services for corporations such as McGraw-Hill, Houghton-Mifflin, Citicorp and Amazon.com. Zatkovich has 28 years experience in computer science and document management and for more than 10 years has been an expert witness providing testimony in federal court in both criminal and civil litigation.

He confirmed that the multiple layers of the PDF document are anomalous.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: certifigate; enoughalready; fakebutaccurate
This analysis is different than the others. The guy that did this one is an expert in the field with over 28 years of experience. He confirms what others have said that the layers in THIS particular document are not normal and CONFIRM changes were made. Drip, drip, drip.....
1 posted on 05/01/2011 6:55:14 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

Call ‘em RACERS!!!...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/04/30/tea-partier-msnbc-media-blame-all-criticism-obama-his-skin-color-are-


2 posted on 05/01/2011 6:56:11 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: conservativegramma

I will wait for “60 Minutes” to get in contact with these folks and get to the bottom of this story. Yea, right, hahahahahahahah!!!


3 posted on 05/01/2011 6:57:24 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: conservativegramma

FReepers have been all over this for days, but nobody, none of our supposed “friends” in the media want to hear a word of it.

This is the biggest bunch of BS I have seen since the “Bush Military Service” memos in 2004. Try getting anybody, radio hosts or Congresscritters, anybody, to bring this up and they will call you a racist birther nut.

The truth will out itself at some point, this is too blatantly false. It is Obamalamadingdong giving us the finger. To quote Justin Wilson “I gar-on-tee.”

Yeah, well hey Mr. President - FU!


4 posted on 05/01/2011 7:03:33 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: conservativegramma

I can’t believe the media and people are buying the new fake LFBC.


5 posted on 05/01/2011 7:05:00 PM PDT by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: Mr. Wright

The CBS journalistic standard is “fake but accurate” which is good enough for many folks.


6 posted on 05/01/2011 7:06:17 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: conservativegramma

Dan Rather will be all over it as he as experience with forged documents.


7 posted on 05/01/2011 7:07:49 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: conservativegramma

Once a document is shown on network news it is proven to be true
--TRUST ME!


8 posted on 05/01/2011 7:09:08 PM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: FReepers
Take FR Across The Finish Line

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9 posted on 05/01/2011 7:11:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: conservativegramma

Drip, drip, drip.....

What are you saying?


10 posted on 05/01/2011 7:15:02 PM PDT by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: conservativegramma

It is not a certified COLB as generated by the DOH of Hawaii.

1. It is a copy of a “purported” certified COLB. The copy carries no certification value.

2. The other is a scan-to-pdf of a “purported” certified COLB. The “scan-to” carries no certification value.

THAT IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO KNOW THAT THE PUBLISHED PIECES MEAN NOTHING AND THAT OBAMA STILL TO THIS DAY HAS NOT RELEASED A CERTIFIED COPY OF HIS COLB AS GENERATED BY THE DOH OF HAWAII WITH THE REQUIRED EMBOSSED SEAL OF THE DOH OF HAWAII.

Sitting chasing every detail of a legally value-less piece of paper is an utter waste of time.

=8-)


11 posted on 05/01/2011 7:17:04 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: conservativegramma

meh..if they forgers something they would have altered the paper cpy and then scanned it. WND had three experts look at the short form and none could find evidence of altering.


12 posted on 05/01/2011 7:17:25 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: conservativegramma
In fact, those who contend the founders of the country excluded dual citizens from qualifying as a "natural born Citizen," as the Constitution requires presidents to be, say the document actually proves Obama's ineligibility.
If he wants to make a stand I say let him! If he wants to say this proves who his legal father is, more power to him, IMO. (talk about refiling cases)
The choice is his, but he's already got one hole in his foot, one way or the other. He won't follow Rule #1 for digging holes.
Where is he now? Possibilities of fraud and forgery?
Just my opinion.

Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin

13 posted on 05/01/2011 7:17:36 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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8. Full Name of Father - Barack Hussein Obama
11. Birthplace - Kenya, East Africa


14 posted on 05/01/2011 7:18:32 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: taxtruth

The media has no choice but to try and squash this - - their coverups and refusal to vet the 1st black candidate makes them all accessories to treason (along with congress and SCOTUS).

Most of the american people are afraid of what happens next with this much corruption and treason within - its so much easier to mock others and pretend this isn’t happening.

But they forget Nixon was brought down by a small number of americans who just wouldn’t let it go — so was King George.

Its up to us patriots to refuse to let this go. Fight them, don’t give up - drip, drip, drip!


15 posted on 05/01/2011 7:19:25 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma
It's gotta be a fake. He just magically comes up with it after months of Abercrombie saying it ain't there, the hospital saying they aren't sure, nobody saying it was released to the birth child on his request?

Come on. Too much left to providence here.

Not surprising it's a really good job. He's probably had the deepest darkest program going to do this, people who will unfortunately disappear not long from now.

He's had great teachers in that: The Clintons (er, Borgias), Ayers, Rezko, the Daley's...the very top of the Rat gang.

16 posted on 05/01/2011 7:21:03 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: conservativegramma

For some people, the only way they will believe that Obama is, indeed, a natural born citizen of the United States of America, is for his mother to be resurrected, for him to revert to an embryo, be placed back in his resurrected mother’s womb, and for his second live birth to be televised. And even then they would believe it was a conspiracy.

From now on, I will consider these types of folks to be nuts...plain nuts. They are like the truthers - nothing will ever convince a truther that the United States government did not bring down the twin towers. They need not be confused with the facts. As with the birthers, I consider the truthers to be nuts...plain nuts. There are many more fruitful things to do than waste more time on this idiotic subject.


17 posted on 05/01/2011 7:21:44 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: taxtruth

What I mean by drip, drip, drip, is to keep hounding them over and over - don’t quit.


18 posted on 05/01/2011 7:24:29 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma
I will wait for “60 Minutes” to get in contact with these folks and get to the bottom of this story. Yea, right, hahahahahahahah!!!

The fact that Dan Rather retired in humiliation is inconsequential.
"Fake but accurare" is the new standard of reality.
Of course the hole Obama has dug for hinself is so deep he might as well continue to push his fantasy world on us and we are obligated to accept it.

The celebratory shout from the main stream media, and the announcement that things were "settled" was supposed to end the matter.

Yeah right.

In another universe, perhaps.

And the neurotic crowd will keep insisting that Obama has not paid millions$ to cover up not only voter fraud, but to keep his fake past secret.

Of course, in the real world that is absurd, but this regime is so detrached from reality that they are determined to brazenly foist their fake reality on the entire country.

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
I don't care what the Soros/Obama/radical socialists progressives have planned.

19 posted on 05/01/2011 7:24:34 PM PDT by Publius6961 (There has Never been a "Tax On The Rich" that has not reached the middle class)
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To: conservativegramma

Here is something that I posted on another thread this morning. You may find it interesting...

The defenders of the COLB say that the layers have to do with scanners and OCR software arbitrarily separating things into layers. The newsies seem to be happy with that explanation. But, I have been looking for a reason this happens with this COLB. Here is what I have discovered.

Irrefutable proof of cut and paste assembly.

There are three types of text, pre-printed, typewritten, and ink stamped. And, then there are the pre-printed graphics. One would expect that the pre-printed graphics would be the same color as the preprinted text. One would expect the typewritten text somewhat different. And one would expect the ink stamps to be different again, and different from each other.

I have found that most of the pre-printed text matches the typewritten text, instead of the pre-printed graphics. OOPS! Also, The record number that is inkstamped, matches exactly to the typewritten and pre-printed text, EXCEPT for the last “1” which is a different color. So, we are supposed to believe that an ink stamp, or ink pad would make two different colors in one motion? The date accepted stamps are even stranger. The stamp in box 22 has two colors also, the 19 and the 1 at the end are different from the rest of it. The stamp in box 20 has identical digits to the stamp in box 22, but it has two colors also. But, not the same two as in box 22. So, here we are supposed to believe that one ink stamp can print two colors on a single motion, and two different set of two on the next motion.

Some other findings... Stanley’s signature is half one color and half another color. Part of the K in U K L Lee is the wrong color. The check boxes down to 6d are one color and the ones belox are another color. There are at least three different colors of ink in the Doctors check box.

None of the inconstancy is random, not one letter, number or line is partially one color and partially another. Only whole characters are the wrong color.

If you would like to verify what I see, try this. Open the COLB with Photoshop. Select Enhance, Adjust color, replace color. Click on one of the triangles next to the signatures and replace that color with something bright and distinctive. Take a look at what portions of the doc are still black. Repeat this procedure to replace the colors of various parts of the COLB with an assortment of distinctive colors. When you get to a point where there are no more black caricatures, you are ready to analyze the results. What this process does is emphasize the subtle differences in the printed colors.

You will notice that there are numerous. You will see that I have not begun to cover them all here.


20 posted on 05/01/2011 7:27:19 PM PDT by California VWRC Member
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To: conservativegramma

Cool


21 posted on 05/01/2011 7:29:50 PM PDT by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: DennisR

Complete hogwash! Unless you can change his daddy into an american citizen, he’s not eligible! The real kooks are the ones thinking they are magically going to somehow hang onto any freedom they think they still have by ignoring the constitution!

“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/justice-hugo-black-in-duncan-v-louisiana-indicates-obama-would-not-be-eligible-ineligibility-echoed-by-former-attorney-general-jeremiah-black/


22 posted on 05/01/2011 7:37:10 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: California VWRC Member

I agree with everything you’ve said. I work everyday with scanning documents into pdf’s. The ‘explanation’ proffered and accepted is horsecrap. I also worked for years on manual and IBM selectric typewriters - and as others have pointed out, even the typewritten text is fishy.

This thing is as fake as a $2.00 bill.


23 posted on 05/01/2011 7:45:53 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
2. The other is a scan-to-pdf of a “purported” certified COLB. The “scan-to” carries no certification value.

The image on the White House website is not a scan of a piece of paper. It is impossible for the image on the White House website to have been scanned to pdf from a piece of paper. If the White House color scanned the paper document printed by a copy machine on security paper by Hawaii DOH then it WOULD HAVE chroma aberrations around the black text because it is IMPOSSIBLE to scan a piece of paper in color without producing some chroma aberrations around the black text. The green version posted on the White House website has NO color fringing around the black text. None. THE GREEN VERSION ON THE WHITEHOUSE WEBSITE IS NOT A SCAN.
Video

Cordially,

24 posted on 05/01/2011 7:46:38 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: conservativegramma

Psst, Gramma,

I think you meant $3.00 bill. A $2.00 bill is valid US currency.


25 posted on 05/01/2011 8:05:37 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

$3.00 bill - thx.

I never ever see a $2.00 bill in my neck of the woods, not surprising I messed that up!-lol


26 posted on 05/01/2011 8:21:35 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

the donald must be pacin’ the floor, and spittin’ bullets, in anticipation of nailing der reader w/this. this is gonna take the luster right off bin laden’s demise


27 posted on 05/01/2011 8:25:16 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: conservativegramma
A comment and thought from CDR Kerchner (Ret) on the "assembled" PDF document put out on the internet by Obama:

While this whole "assembled" PDF document the White House put out could be a ruse and trap to further embarrass the "birthers" as Mario considered in his new article, I had another thought. What's to say that the copies given to Obama's lawyer sent to Hawaii, and attested to by Hawaiian officials, actually show the same information on those two paper copies that is now being displayed on the internet in this very badly assembled PDF document.

As I recall the former HI director when interviewed in recent weeks, she said when she saw the alleged original Obama birth registration document she said it was half typed and half hand written. What we are being shown on the net is something that is entirely typed except for the signatures. That does not comport with what the former HI Health Dept Director said.

What if the Obama powers sent the lawyer to Hawaii to provide the necessary cover story that they did get two copies of the Obama vital record there ... but the image on the net now is NOT of the paper copies that they picked up ... say because there is something on it that Obama still does not wish to reveal. So he has a version cooked up once again to put online, and someone screwed up and did not flatten the PDF file prior to release to hide the layers. Would Hawaii officials speak up to affirm or deny that what Obama put on the net is not an image of the copy of what they gave to Obama's lawyer. Or would they keep silent in much the same way they did regarding the Certification document, the short form images on the net since Jun 2008. Remember that Hawaii never confirmed that any of those images on the net were copies of something that they issued. Hawaii has been very willing to cooperate with Obama's stonewalling and game playing regarding the vital records in HI for Obama. And, Obama is playing such a cat and mouse game with the American electorate about all his hidden records that one can never tell with him as to what is real or what is memorex. It is a disgrace how this administration is treating the American citizenry. And the main stream media does not call him out on this and instead helps and enables Obama to conduct such offensive disinformation tactics on the American electorate. Journalism no longer exists in this nation. The media should be ashamed.

28 posted on 05/01/2011 8:25:32 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: 17th Miss Regt

3 dollar bills have to do with sexual preferences


29 posted on 05/01/2011 8:27:51 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: California VWRC Member

ping bc analysis


30 posted on 05/01/2011 9:04:30 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM FREE AMERICA.)
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To: California VWRC Member

ping bc analysis


31 posted on 05/01/2011 9:05:03 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM FREE AMERICA.)
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To: conservativegramma

Obama’s ineligibility: Were Americans set up by the press and then scammed by the Congress?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/36025

McCain was born in a civilian hospital in Colon, Panama. Strictly speaking he did not meet the natural born citizenship criteria.

So, a deal was struck between the Republicans and Democrats not to make an issue of the natural born clause of the Constitution for either McCain or Obama.

The press keep the pressure on the McCain eligibility issue nearly all the way to election day to deflect scrutiny from Obama’s eligibility problem.

The release of Obama’s Certification of Live Birth in June 2008 was part of the deception.

The deception continues today as does the strange silence of our political elites.

In my opinion, complicity and acquiescence in 2008 explains today’s willful ignorance by the political elites and the main stream media.

It was all a very well-executed scam, but now it is starting to unravel.


32 posted on 05/01/2011 9:07:00 PM PDT by Ordinary_American
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To: West Texas Chuck

Now that Barry has killed Osama he will be untouchable for awhile. The MSM will defend him in a renewed frenzy.


33 posted on 05/01/2011 9:59:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yep. He is the hero W never was, in some people’s minds.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue ;)


34 posted on 05/01/2011 10:07:21 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: California VWRC Member; Las Vegas Ron; Brown Deer; Fred Nerks

Please check out what California VWRC Member has discovered. Haven’t seen anyone else notice this but of course I haven’t read everything. Copying for easy reading.


The defenders of the COLB say that the layers have to do with scanners and OCR software arbitrarily separating things into layers. The newsies seem to be happy with that explanation. But, I have been looking for a reason this happens with this COLB. Here is what I have discovered.

Irrefutable proof of cut and paste assembly.

There are three types of text, pre-printed, typewritten, and ink stamped. And, then there are the pre-printed graphics. One would expect that the pre-printed graphics would be the same color as the preprinted text. One would expect the typewritten text somewhat different. And one would expect the ink stamps to be different again, and different from each other.

I have found that most of the pre-printed text matches the typewritten text, instead of the pre-printed graphics. OOPS! Also, The record number that is inkstamped, matches exactly to the typewritten and pre-printed text, EXCEPT for the last “1” which is a different color. So, we are supposed to believe that an ink stamp, or ink pad would make two different colors in one motion? The date accepted stamps are even stranger. The stamp in box 22 has two colors also, the 19 and the 1 at the end are different from the rest of it. The stamp in box 20 has identical digits to the stamp in box 22, but it has two colors also. But, not the same two as in box 22. So, here we are supposed to believe that one ink stamp can print two colors on a single motion, and two different set of two on the next motion.

Some other findings... Stanley’s signature is half one color and half another color. Part of the K in U K L Lee is the wrong color. The check boxes down to 6d are one color and the ones belox are another color. There are at least three different colors of ink in the Doctors check box.

None of the inconstancy is random, not one letter, number or line is partially one color and partially another. Only whole characters are the wrong color.

If you would like to verify what I see, try this. Open the COLB with Photoshop. Select Enhance, Adjust color, replace color. Click on one of the triangles next to the signatures and replace that color with something bright and distinctive. Take a look at what portions of the doc are still black. Repeat this procedure to replace the colors of various parts of the COLB with an assortment of distinctive colors. When you get to a point where there are no more black caricatures, you are ready to analyze the results. What this process does is emphasize the subtle differences in the printed colors.

You will notice that there are numerous. You will see that I have not begun to cover them all here.


35 posted on 05/02/2011 9:22:02 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: conservativegramma

Sorry - but this has been hashed and re-hashed. Only one parent in 1961 had to be a US Citizen, and it didn’t have to be the father. This is barking up the wrong tree. Period.

But I firmly believe that every single “birth document” released by Obummer has been a fake, including the most recent. Then again - everything about this alien invader is fake.


36 posted on 05/02/2011 9:22:13 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: conservativegramma
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37 posted on 05/02/2011 9:28:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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