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Is the Obama administration setting up to toss the SEALs under the bus?
Pajamas Media ^ | 5/6/2011 | Staff

Posted on 05/06/2011 5:01:04 AM PDT by IbJensen

That is one way, though surely not the only way, to read this story. The gist: the administration is now admitting that it had no video feed during the most crucial 20-25 minutes of the bin Laden raid. But take note of a detail that’s hanging in the new new new version of events.

A photograph released by the White House appeared to show the President and his aides in the situation room watching the action as it unfolded. In fact they had little knowledge of what was happening in the compound.

Mr Panetta also told the network that the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president.

In an interview with PBS, Mr Panetta said: “Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn’t know just exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments as we were waiting for information.

“We had some observation of the approach there, but we did not have direct flow of information as to the actual conduct of the operation itself as they were going through the compound.”

Mr Panetta also told the network that the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president. (emphasis mine)

It’s that last line that puts some distance now between the White House and the raid. The WH wasn’t actually watching, and the SEALs made the call to kill. Put that together with the information that came out yesterday about the disposition of the enemy within the compound.

Several other details from the raid support the narrative that bin Laden felt a certain sense of security in his walled compound in northern Pakistan—there were no guards on site, and he was unarmed when the CIA-led Navy SEALs team dropped in Sunday to capture or kill him.

The circumstances surrounding his final minutes are still a bit blurry. A senior U.S. official said that while he was unarmed, he appeared to be reaching for a weapon before being fatally shot.

Other accounts said one of the guards was armed, but the others and bin Laden were not. Of course, we’ll never see the actual order that sent the SEAL team in, so we’ll never know if it truly was a kill order. Most Americans wouldn’t care either way — bin Laden was one of that rare breed of thug who just needs killlin’. But this administration isn’t composed of “most Americans,” it’s composed of people who hold a skeptical view of American power, to say the least. And it’s not as if Obama hasn’t made a habit of throwing anyone and everyone under the bus as soon as they become inconvenient to him. And let’s face it: Obama’s voting base hates the military and has spent the entire war decrying every tactic the military and our intel agencies have used over the course of the war.

The Obama administration would be making a colossal mistake if it goes anywhere near turning on the SEALs who got bin Laden. But they have been making mistake after mistake since the successful raid. So I’m no longer confident they can manage to dodge making this one. And if your agenda of frittering away American power and influence remains in place, it’s not a mistake at all.

Plus: The New York Times Magazine suffers from a case of bad timing…and worse judgment.


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KEYWORDS: evilregime; osamaobama
Like the Koran's 72 virgin shortage, we seem to be running out of busses.

Mr Panetta also told the network that the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president.

It hadn’t occurred to me to read that as a Freudian slip but, now that you mention it….

1 posted on 05/06/2011 5:01:09 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Never let a crisis go to waste has turned into: never let a success go to waste.

It’s not just being wasted; it’s being urinated on.


2 posted on 05/06/2011 5:06:46 AM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: IbJensen

“the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president.”

Obviously the writer didn’t spend years studying grammar in parochial schools. Conjures up the image of the Seals sitting around trying to decide whether to go to Pakistan or Washington DC. Let’s see, which of these guys should be kill?


3 posted on 05/06/2011 5:09:17 AM PDT by Mercat (BHO, Ditherer in Chief)
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To: IbJensen

Jobless claims soared to 474,000 last month, the highest claims number since August 2010. The consensus expected 410,000.

I’m sure this bonehead administration will find some way to keep the eye off of these types of numbers....never let a good crisis go to waste...


4 posted on 05/06/2011 5:11:17 AM PDT by oust the louse (We have moved decisively from a Nation of makers to a Nation of takers.)
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To: IbJensen

5 posted on 05/06/2011 5:11:50 AM PDT by Zakeet (I know Obama is level headed because he drools out of both sides of his mouth at the same time)
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To: IbJensen

I believe they are fearing their buddies in the international community....this was probably a kill mission - no matter whether the targets were arm or not, it’s the right move, but politically for Obama it’s not because of his looney left and he would throw the Seal Team under to save himself


6 posted on 05/06/2011 5:11:50 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: IbJensen
Obama gave an Executive Order to wash, perfume,
and dress in linen Obama bin Ladin, terrorist and
murderer of 3000+ Americans.

Obama then ordered the USNavy to give the
terrorist a 45 minute respectful funeral.

NOT ONE MURDERED AMERICAN HAD ANY SUCH TREATMENT.


7 posted on 05/06/2011 5:13:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Mercat

The writer should be thrown under a bus.


8 posted on 05/06/2011 5:13:24 AM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Mercat

I think that in this case the seals may have screwed up..LOL


9 posted on 05/06/2011 5:13:55 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Diogenesis

Everyone should save this collage you’ve posted!


10 posted on 05/06/2011 5:15:18 AM PDT by IbJensen (I couldn’t fill my gas tank to go to the ‘Dead Bin Laden Celebration!)
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To: IbJensen

Bfl.


11 posted on 05/06/2011 5:15:18 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: IbJensen
Obama's cabal is establishing deniability. This matter will fester for quite some time as new information leaks.

It makes me wonder how the announcement of the upcoming removal of the commanding general in Afghanistan, the Secretary of Defense and Director of the CIA figures into further muddying the waters.

12 posted on 05/06/2011 5:18:55 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: varon
"...the upcoming removal..."

Removal?

13 posted on 05/06/2011 5:21:46 AM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: IbJensen

Anything 0 does is suspicious to me, he’s been lying his entire life - so why stop now?

He’s been pimping and pandering ever since the CIA and the SEALS got to and killed OBL.

Now, today he’s going to Ft Campbell to ‘thank’ the SEALS - might as well put a target on their backs. All in the name of pumping up his sagging poll numbers!!

Our local news reported the night after the name of the SEAL commander with a picture!! Last name starts with ‘M’ - I couldn’t believe it.


14 posted on 05/06/2011 5:23:01 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (SL I believe hes a remarkable race-car driver, I think some people in the world have forgotten that)
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To: NY Attitude

Bump for later


15 posted on 05/06/2011 5:24:50 AM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: IbJensen

I noticed that but I thought Obama had put the command in writing...


16 posted on 05/06/2011 5:27:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: IbJensen

This is what’s known in the duplicitous circles of government as “plausible deniability”. You can also think of it as moral teflon.


17 posted on 05/06/2011 5:28:13 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IbJensen
If I were the SEALs, I'd tell them to prove it. Their argument could be, "we found him that way!"

Remember, conveniently, there was no video that they were watching in the Situation Room; there may or may not be witnesses. If there are, call them to the witness stand.

18 posted on 05/06/2011 5:51:02 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: IbJensen

he was unarmed when the CIA-led Navy SEALs team dropped in Sunday to capture or kill him.

But the news media displayed a photo shopped reinactment of OBL with an AK-47 just behind him.

This thing has changed so many time, I disbelieve the entire operation.

My money is on the Tora Bora daisey cutter theory. OBL has been dead for years. Obama had to get the media and the birthers off his birth certificate issue. He knows it was a photo shopped fraud.


19 posted on 05/06/2011 6:00:08 AM PDT by chainsaw ("The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.")
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To: Bigtigermike

Why send KILLERS if you don’t intend to kill? That what these HERO’s do, break things and kill bad people.


20 posted on 05/06/2011 6:06:54 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High meetwill rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Coldwater Creek

And they are meeting with Obama? This is great news!


21 posted on 05/06/2011 6:07:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: IbJensen

Go ahead and keep pissing off the military Hussein. It will make it easier when they have to go in and drag your usurping ass out of the White Hut.


22 posted on 05/06/2011 6:24:44 AM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: Diogenesis
Sharks can smell blood in the water for miles. So if you want as many sharks as possible you need to chum the water and wait at least 30 to 45 minutes before tossing the bait in the water. Time waiting can be dealt with by holding a ceremony. The Seals know how to get a job done and how to finish the job.
23 posted on 05/06/2011 6:34:13 AM PDT by BigSkyDream
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To: IbJensen

So once again the split second tactical decisions of our soldiers in the field are being second guessed by politicians who do not even qualify as REMF’s. The Murtha Forker is dead, but his legacy lives on.


24 posted on 05/06/2011 6:39:22 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (All Hail the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: IbJensen
Obama should think long and hard about this sort of thing. There are a number of people in this world that you don't want to make enemies of. And the special forces community contains the vast majority of them. If the SHTF Obama’s SEIU thugs aren't going to protect him from SOCOM professionals.
25 posted on 05/06/2011 6:47:02 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: IbJensen
there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn’t know just exactly what was going on.

Relax Leon, the SEALS were just reading Osama his Miranda Rights and making sure he understood.

Panetta ahead of his master. 0bama has'nt known what was going on since his regime came to power.

Since after 9/11 Osama has been wanted "Dead or Alive". The SEALS delivered him - DEAD. So what's the problem?

26 posted on 05/06/2011 7:15:15 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Zakeet

OMG..it’s bob Ross...let me paint a picture of these wispy trees...


27 posted on 05/06/2011 7:16:45 AM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: IbJensen
Only a matter of time before Holder's on the case.
28 posted on 05/06/2011 7:35:14 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: All; Diogenesis

Do we do the same for Taliban and others killed or does only Osama get the muslim burial treatment?


29 posted on 05/06/2011 7:35:50 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: IbJensen
SO nice that uhbama is going to fort campbell today to meet team six.

Instead of flying them to the WH and keeping everything mum, he has to go for the photo op of arriving at Fort Campbell and ADVERTISING TO THE WORLD, where a possible home base for these brave, good men might be stationed.

imo-he just made Fort Campbell an enticing target for terrorists.

30 posted on 05/06/2011 8:56:26 AM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Diogenesis
Exactly.

If the situation of the assault in Pakistan were reversed, everyone in that house would have been killed, probably by beheading.

I hope they slipped a large piece of bleeding pork under that white linen.

31 posted on 05/06/2011 8:58:21 AM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Republic
"Instead of flying them to the WH"

So the media will identify them??? Nah.

32 posted on 05/06/2011 8:59:48 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: ex-snook
Well, according to the stories, the WH does not use transparancy in revealing their log books.

NO ONE had to know they were flying in, no one had to know that the President was meeting them, no one had to know anything.

Just imagine the ways they could have gotten there-lots and lots of ways, including alone, camoflaged, etc., etc.

It is all about the photo-op for this man. Of course the press will not get pics of these guys but they sure know a hit point in our nation now.

33 posted on 05/06/2011 9:05:59 AM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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