Posted on 05/07/2011 7:01:47 AM PDT by opentalk
"So progressive that the Constitution is totally defunct .. and yes, Kenya did exist in 1963 as the 'Protectorate of Kenya' under British rule. In 1963, British rule ceased and Kenya dropped 'Protectorate'.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is a MASSIVE cover-up underway.
BOTH Natural born AND natural born citizen now return NO RESULTS in searches on ALL active online dictionaries, with the sole exception of Wikipedia, redirects to Wikipedia, and quotes from Wikipedia.
....The reason this is important is because right now, there is an ongoing debate over at Wikipedia due to the scrubbing of references to Emerich De Vattel's work Law of Nations, right after Obama released his long form.
....They have maintained here that since Vattel wrote in French, and his exact wording for Natural-Born is, "Les Naturales ou indigenes" which literally translated would mean "the naturals or natives", Vattel can not be used as a reference for the wording of the Constitutional requirement of Natural Born Citizenship. But, Vattel's definition (in English) is as follows:
(Excerpt) Read more at 69.84.25.250 ...
Welcome to the NWO.
it shows up on answers as a reference to the constitution:
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=natural+born+citizen&gwp=13
although this is interesting: http://www.onelook.com/?w=natural%20born%20citizen%20&ls=a
Are we back to the birther thing?
http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/vattel/ Then, once you got Vattal up do a search for “NATURAL BORN” ~ that should give you 80 references. So, what’s the problem? Is this a Wiki thing? You know they are all crazy Leftwingtards.
As driven by the Left. It won't die because they are in full coverup and damage control mode. Why?
It seems they are also planting misinformation. A set called US Constitution.com is stating that anyone born in the US is NBC. BUNK!
The article has many link examples also. It is enough to conclude this is a hot issue which they want to avoid.
America has never left the “birther thing”.
It has not disappeared, slowed down or been pummeled to obscurity.
It is what will create truth for our future generations history books.
I take great satisfaction knowing no matter how often “birtherism” is attack there are millions in America who continue with the faith of it.
No, more a constitutional thing
Uh?....Maybe because the resident in the White House posted a **second** obvious forgery and called it a “birth certificate”? Hm? Do you think that could be the reason?
What has me baffled is our highest military. When did covering up and ignoring criminal fraud in the chain of command become part of the military code of honor?
“Are we back to the birther thing?”
That’s pretty snarky. Like the fabricated National Guard memos that were created solely to embarrass George Bush, the two different versions of the “official” Obama BC BOTH have holes in them large enough for Michelle to back through.
Sorry, the longer this issue drags on, the more I’m convinced that Obama is completely and totally ineligible to hold the office of POTUS.
Fraud this massive, on a national scale, can’t be overlooked.
Hitler wassn’t a natural born German and look how that worked out for Germany!
I’m with you Eye of Unk. I can’t believe people roll over and give up sooooooo easy on the subject. There definitely a “something” in the woodpile with regards to the BC issue...
Aren't you talking about www.usconstitution.net?
Did you read the article?
The issue is not the place of Obama’s birth.
Birthers = those who feel there is not enough verified information to determine the circumstances of the current President's birth.
We need (at least) two more terms:
Racers = those who pull the race card in response to any criticism of the current President, his Czars, or his policies.
Obamers = those who are trying to redefine and modify the work of the framers of the Constitution as to the definition of NBC in relation to clear loyalty and true allegiance to the USA, trying to excuse the lack of clear SSN info, Selective Service records, adoption records, travel records, and passport records.
If that makes "the Birther Thing", then count me in.
UNTIL PROVEN otherwise, the Standard above disqualifies the Usurper, no matter how many fools try to disregard it.
The next two weeks, Corsi and WND are releasing detailed information on Obama’s background, emphasizing he does not qualify as a NBC. Seems they are concerned.
Never left.
Because apparently right and wrong doesn't matter just as long as we win the next election.
The democrats Creed!
always remember....The difference between a conservative and a liberal
A Conservative bases his politics on his morals...
A liberal bases his morals on his politics...
I hear ya sir.
or mam. (sorry)
“Winston is an editor responsible for the historical revisionism concording the past to the Party’s contemporary official version of the past; thus making the government of Oceania seem omniscient.
As such, he perpetually rewrites records and alters photographs, rendering the deleted people as unpersons; the original document is incinerated in a memory hole.”
And you thought 1984 was just a book?
WELL SAID !!!
but to quote the famous “Bartles and James”....
Thanks for your support!
Just a thought...
Perhaps Obummer will issue an Executive Order to “Scrub” the NBC clause from the Constitution.
After all, dosen’t Obama walk on water?
As the opposite of your “Obamers”, may I offer:
NBC’ers: Those who understand the Constitution clearly prohibits anchor babies from serving as the nation’s president and commander in chief
It would be interesting to hear their definition of NBC and qualifications for president.
NBC’ers: Those who understand the Constitution clearly prohibits anchor babies from serving as the nation’s president and commander in chief
I thought of that but did not to confuse those who think the National Broadcasting Network should file as a 527 and rebrand itself as MS-DNC.
havent you heard? Osama is a huge merican Hero.
The BC is in the dead letter office
Steyn is Canadian by birth.
I always say “Sir”? “I know who both of my parents are”
Personally, I didn't appreciate his rant, though it was amusing to have a Canadian with a British accent lecturing Americans on what a Natural Born Citizen is.
I think Steyns point was that having actually lived through the process he knows something about the letter of the law on naturalized citizens.
Now you're getting it. It's been that way for a looong time in Washington and nothing We do seems to make a difference.
I said this elsewhere in another thread, but I repeat:
Give it a rest!
Many of our past presidents: Van Buren, Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson, Hoover, and of course Obama, all had at least one foreign born parent who were not naturalized citizens at the time of the future presidents’ births. Besides, under our Constitution, The House of Representatives is the final certifying body to an election, and, in each case, their word is final. The House did vote to make each of these men president, thereby giving their final stamp of approval as to the legitimacy of the election. So, regardless of your complaints, BO IS our president.
You see, even if you were somehow able to PROVE, (which you cannot) that BO was born in Kenya, it would not change the fact the the House certified the election. He WILL be the Prez until at least Jan 20, 2013.
Give it a rest and concentrate on how to remove a Marxist from the Whitehouse.
We are too easily distracted by things that we can do nothing about.
I think Steyns point was that having actually lived through the process he knows something about the letter of the law on naturalized citizens.
And his larger point is the one that I subscribe too. That is the matter of the BC and NBC status is a moot point, we all know this guy is a turd but the BC is has become a red herring and we just keep chasing it at our own peril while ignoring the crimes he commits before our very eyes.
Steyns point is that Obama, regardless of birth status is screwing the country blind and we are ignoring it because we are preoccupied with his something that he actually had no hand in.
BTW, My Pappy’s family was from WV, and he would never admit it.
Though none of it made him less of a man.
How could something he had no hand in define him?
I am not sure that the left is driving it, but they sure are watering it.
IMHO Obama is loving this shit. He is a master at slight of hand.
He has had us hypnotized with the birther thing for over 2 years.
Watch THE OTHER HAND.
He is installing a caliphate in North Africa. He is robbing the middle class, He is subverting the letter of the law.
IF he had acknowledged obama's ineligibility first and then made the case that this was not the hill to die on, I might have listened and possibly agreed.
Instead, he lectured, ranted and raved and was incorrect about it. He should stick to talking about the things he knows about.
What many seem to not understand is that the Constitution and the founders' original intent ARE important today. This issue is very important to a number of us and it isn't going away until it is made right.
I think Steyn made a fair assessment of the law tracing it back to English law.
Regardless of that his wider point is that the BC has become a red herring.
Birther thing?
Actually its a constitutional requirement that has yet no anyone’s satisfaction been fully explained.
You either abide by the Constitution or you don’t, and if its the latter, then the citizenry is justified in doing whatever is necessary to restore our republic.
Whatever is necessary.
Do you seriously think that at this point we are going to get a Judge to say AHA! Obama Is not eligible to hold office!
We had a federal Judge rule that Obamacare was unconstitutional and what happened?
Obama said FU I dont give a **** about the law, I will proceed, Me and all my cronys make the rules
And he laughs while we ignore that BLATANT miscarriage of law and chase the BC
He punks a 30 year allie in egypt, starts a war in libya without even discussing the matter with congress and laughs while we chase the BC
This guy is a snake, he is a charlatan. I cant see him gone fast enough, but this birther thing has no wheels.
In fact, I believe someone like obama, whose loyalties often appear to lie elsewhere than with the US, is exactly the danger they were trying to avoid.
They gave the President a lot of power, including that of Commander in Chief, and did their best to check and balance that power, starting with his or her innate national loyalty.
IF we had 'listened' to them and their wisdom, we would have avoided the obama disaster altogether and obama would still be the most liberal and unproductive senator instead of our worst President.
Too late now.
About a year ago Obama/Holder rolled up 104? mob operators in NYC. It was barely noticed and the people that did notice thought “Gee Obama is swell, he is tough on crime”
He was clearing the field for the Chicago mob
And we were chasing the BC.
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