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Hawaii detective charges: 'Birth certificate' a fraud
World Net Daily ^ | May 8, 2011 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 05/08/2011 7:08:49 PM PDT by conservativegramma

HONOLULU, Hawaii – A private investigator claims employees of the state Department of Health forged three Hawaiian birth certificates for Barack Obama to "screw with birthers."

Takeyuki Irei told WND one document placed the birth at Kapiolani hospital, another at Queens Medical Center and a third in Kenya.

The 57-year-old detective, who has been a P.I. since the 1980s, said he was stunned when he discovered that the purported copy of Obama's original birth certificate released by the White House was more or less an exact image of one of the forgeries.

Two retired police officers in Honolulu, who asked not to be identified for security reasons, also told WND they believe the White House document is a forgery, and they are trying to identify who created it.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; enoughalready; fraud; getlostobot; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 05/08/2011 7:08:53 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

Nah-nah, nah-nah. Told ya so.

Birther’s will win.


2 posted on 05/08/2011 7:11:42 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: conservativegramma

Trump?

LLS


3 posted on 05/08/2011 7:12:03 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: conservativegramma

Now there’s a surprise.


4 posted on 05/08/2011 7:12:08 PM PDT by Afterguard
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5 posted on 05/08/2011 7:12:39 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: conservativegramma

go figure..Maybe the next one will be better.


6 posted on 05/08/2011 7:13:12 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: dalebert

He’s kinda stuck with this one..


7 posted on 05/08/2011 7:13:58 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

But..But..Butt “He killed bin laden” after the creep has been dead for 9 years. How could he possibly have a fake B.C.?


8 posted on 05/08/2011 7:16:39 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: conservativegramma

Hmmmm, I can only anticipate the parade of those against wasting time and energy on what BamBamKennedy is hiding show up and say so.

I would like to know WHY he had to supposedly send his lawyer over to Hawaii to FINALLY get himself, his own copy? Did he not ever have his own personal copy until now? What has he been using all these decades to show proof he is who he claims to be?


9 posted on 05/08/2011 7:16:56 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: conservativegramma
I just have one thing to say to those police officers....

MA-HA-LO!!!!!!

10 posted on 05/08/2011 7:17:03 PM PDT by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: conservativegramma

So how long till a FReeper comes in an tells us all to drop this, it’s over, the docs weren’t forged, etc. etc. etc.?

Just curious.

5... 4... 3...


11 posted on 05/08/2011 7:17:08 PM PDT by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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To: RS_Rider

I still say something smells with the OBL raid and this issue...


12 posted on 05/08/2011 7:17:34 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: null and void; LucyT

ping


13 posted on 05/08/2011 7:17:53 PM PDT by stockpirate (If republicans vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists..Ich bin ein Paliner)
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To: CommieCutter

He’s kinda stuck with this one..


Big time!


14 posted on 05/08/2011 7:18:25 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: conservativegramma

They should check with this guy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

They could check with Jess Henig about how the fake COLB at Factcheck was created....if they could find her....

She is now missing.


15 posted on 05/08/2011 7:18:34 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: NordP

Okay help from us Hawaii language illiterates. What does Ma-Ha-lo mean?


16 posted on 05/08/2011 7:19:17 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: TheZMan

The new rebuttal went from OCR to some other acronym now..I’m not kidding. I really wanted to pay attention to that particular rebuttal but it’s starting to get ridiculous.


17 posted on 05/08/2011 7:19:23 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: RS_Rider

But..But..Butt “He killed bin laden” after the creep has been dead for 9 years. How could he possibly have a fake B.C.?


Question: Can an illegal President be subject to prosecution from the International Criminal Court for ordering the assasination of a foreign national in a souvereign country?


18 posted on 05/08/2011 7:20:49 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: TheZMan

If the docs are forged, it will be a nice conversation piece with the MSM news anchors at their cocktail parties in NYC.


19 posted on 05/08/2011 7:21:49 PM PDT by oldtimer (uee)
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To: conservativegramma

Okay help from us Hawaii language illiterates. What does Ma-Ha-lo mean?


Thank you


20 posted on 05/08/2011 7:22:25 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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21 posted on 05/08/2011 7:22:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: conservativegramma

It means Thank you.

(New tab then Google.)

Thanks for posting.


22 posted on 05/08/2011 7:23:15 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Well...he could be held as a British citizen.

Of course the Brits may want him for their own. Do you think giving away nuclear defense secrets to the Russians qualifies under Treason in Britain. The Brit POTUS may have all sorts of troubles if he starts traveling abroad again....


23 posted on 05/08/2011 7:23:59 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: RedMDer
B T T T ! ! ! ©

24 posted on 05/08/2011 7:24:33 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: conservativegramma

Orly going after the new HI Health Director...

DR. ORLY TAITZ ESQ

29839 SANTA MARGARITA PKWY, STE 100

RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA CA 92688

ph. 949-683-5411

Loretta J. Fuddy, ACSW, MPH

Director of Health

state of Hawaii Department of Health

1250 Punchbowl str., Room 325

Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

05.07.2011

REQUEST TO ACCESS ORIGINAL 1961 TYPEWRITTEN BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (IF IT EXISTS) UNDER HAWAII UNIFORM INFORMATION PRACTICES ACT OF 1975

Dear Ms. Fuddy

My name is Dr. Orly Taitz. I am an attorney representing some 200 members of the U.S. military, state representatives from a number of states and former US ambassador to the United Nations, ambassador Alan Keyes. I am currently conducting a number of legal actions, relating to the authenticity of Mr. Obama’s vital records. On April 25, 2011 you sent a letter to Mr. Barack Obama with enclosures, stating that those enclosures represent his original Certificate of Live Birth and not a computer generated copy. (Exhibit 6) Your letter and enclosures were posted on the web site of the WhiteHouse.gov.

Computer image posted on the official web site of the White House, White House.gov is clearly not a true and correct copy of the original type written Certificate of Live Birth issued in 1961. It is clearly a computer generated image, showing multiple signs of computer manipulation and alteration. (Exhibit 1)

A copy is supposed to look as an original document, particularly a certified copy. In 1961 Birth Certificates or Certificates of Live Birth were issued on White paper. Please see the attachment Exhibit 2, a certified copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth of one Susan Nordyke, born August 5 1961 in the same hospital in Hawaii. While there are about 70 different areas on this document, that point to the fact, that document released by Obama is an altered multilayered computer image and not a correct and true copy of the original document, the most obvious are as follows:

1. Nordyke BC is on a white paper, that is turning yellow with aging. Obama BC is on the green safety paper, which was not used in 1961

2. Nordyke BC has a clearly defined border. Obama BC does not have a clearly defined border, particularly on the right side of the document.

3. Nordyke BC has an embossed seal. Obama BC does not have a seal.

4. Nordyke BC states that it is a certified copy of the original document. Obama BC has a notation, that it is a true copy or an abstract. If it is not a true copy of the original birth certificate, but rather an abstract, than it completely negates your statement, that it is a certified copy of an original Certificate of Live Birth. As you well known, an abstract, can be just about anything. It can be a computer copy of grandma’s recollection, not supported by any corroborating evidence.

5. Please, see an affidavit from an expert attesting to the fact, that this document is a computer multilevel creation. Exhibit 5 One can see that the signatures and dates have partially ink and partially computer generated images.

This is particularly alarming in light of the following facts :

a. Selective service certificate shows Obama using Connecticut Social security number 042-68-4425 Exhibit 3

b. Social security administration shows that this number was never assigned to him. Exhibit 4

We have the most egregious crime ever perpetrated upon the citizens of the
United States of America: an individual occupying the position of the president and Commander in chief, while using an invalid Social Security number, invalid Selective Service Certificate and an altered Birth certificate. Anyone aiding and abetting in this endeavor is guilty of aiding and abetting Social Security fraud, elections fraud and possibly being part of RICO.

Based on all of the above I respectfully demand an access for me and my forensic document experts to the original typewritten birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, allegedly generated in Kapiolani hospital, signed by Dr. David A Sinclair and issued and certified on August 8 1961 in the state of Hawaii by the registrar U.K. Lee.

The issue of privacy cannot be raised by Mr. Obama, as he waived any privacy claims by releasing what he claims to be the true and correct copy of the original birth certificate. At this time, the only concern is not privacy, but authenticity of what was released. At this time at issue is the national security of the United States of America, as it is endangered more than ever by one occupying the position of the President of the United States and the Commander in Chief while using an invalid Social Security number, invalid Selective Service Certificate and an altered birth certificate (or Certificate of Live Birth)

Additionally I demand clarification, whether document released by Mr. Obama, is indeed the true and correct copy of the document, that you gave to his attorney, Ms. Corley.

Sincerely,

Dr. Orly Taitz. ESQ

cc Inspector General Department of Justice

cc Conressman Issa, Chairman of House Oversight committee

cc Congressman Smith, Chairman of House Committee on the Judiciary

cc Congressman Rogers, chairman of subcommittee on Social Security

cc Public Integrity Unit Department of Justice


25 posted on 05/08/2011 7:26:18 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: TheZMan
"So how long till ", etc

I give up, how long?

26 posted on 05/08/2011 7:28:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Don’t you know that Orly’s nuts? How so?

This is how you tell: When she tries to present her case, just shout her down and don’t let her talk!! It proves it every time!! /sarc


27 posted on 05/08/2011 7:29:27 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: CommieCutter

Yes, I agree - one of those situations where your intuition says “something isn’t right”.

Supposedly they knew since February where OBL was...and suddenly they get a poll that most Americans don’t think BHO was born here ...

If you don’t believe in coincidence then something is wrong - we’re being played.


28 posted on 05/08/2011 7:29:41 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: LibLieSlayer

Trump?


If not Trump’s guy, I hope it makes Trump more determined than ever.


29 posted on 05/08/2011 7:31:54 PM PDT by unkus
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To: conservativegramma

This issue isn’t going away regardless of whatever fake docs he waves in front of everyone.


30 posted on 05/08/2011 7:32:11 PM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: CommieCutter

But her FOIA actions are spot on...Astute at Social Security Administration and now the new HDOH director. Nothing fazes her, she’s a bulldog.


31 posted on 05/08/2011 7:34:29 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: conservativegramma
am i the only one that finds the Registrars name a joke??? U.K. La Lee... ukulele

32 posted on 05/08/2011 7:35:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

being “stuck” w/a birth certificate is tantamont to a painter painting himself into a corner. it’s one sticky wicket.


33 posted on 05/08/2011 7:36:07 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: conservativegramma

Bump.


34 posted on 05/08/2011 7:36:53 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: conservativegramma; LucyT; Hotlanta Mike

Here is the deal where the Hawaii people have to be in hot water...boiling hot water...

Unless they flat out completely lied they probably did give the White House thu...I mean...attorneys actual ‘records’. The email exchange posted on the WH blog may very well be authentic. But since the ‘evidence’ went to the possible criminal instead to a safe 3rd party or the public there is a chance for malfeasance. I believe the legal term is ‘the chain of custody has been broken’. Now the thu....sorry - lawyers from the WH can swap out what Hawaii gave them with whatever they want.

It appears they did - a crappy forgery. Real crappy.

But Hawaii probably knew what they were going to do. It was probably discussed. FOIA request anyone! But in any case Abercrombie, Fuggy, Schatz and Okubo probably keep copies of the what they really did give the WH. Its called insurance. And they probably all have letters with their lawyers that they probably meet with regularly indicating - “if anything happens to me release this”.

Jess Henig is one of only 2 people who touched the first one. She is now missing. Hopefully the Hawaii people are smart enough to ensure their health is not an issue....


35 posted on 05/08/2011 7:36:58 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I have to say, she’s the only person that’s got a worse treatment than Sarah Palin.


36 posted on 05/08/2011 7:37:05 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Chode

I do, also. Is this the name of the Registrar that is on the twins’ BC?


37 posted on 05/08/2011 7:39:18 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: bluecat6

I know you just legally explained this but..

How can he get away with it? Really? He put his name on this BC on National TV.


38 posted on 05/08/2011 7:39:37 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Just mythoughts
"supposedly send his lawyer over to Hawaii..."

The documents cannot be tied directly to the Hawaii department of health (provenance) which they would have been IF they were sent to B Hussein O by UPS, FedEx or USPS next day delivery.

39 posted on 05/08/2011 7:45:07 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: CommieCutter

After all of the lives lost and money spent on the WOT, don’t the American people deserve a definitive answer for once.
Nooooo, islamic tradition is more important. I think the whole thing is a campaign stunt and zero is using the SEALS as pawns.


40 posted on 05/08/2011 7:45:26 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: conservativegramma
What Obama is a lying SOB!..
Then.. his mother was a b!tch..
41 posted on 05/08/2011 7:45:54 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: conservativegramma

T’anks, eh?


42 posted on 05/08/2011 7:49:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TheZMan

It is all promoted by the Pro-0bama side, they love this “birther” issue. Just like the pictures of OBL. They will be released, when it is politically expedient.


43 posted on 05/08/2011 7:52:31 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: stockpirate; Think free or die; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ...
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Hawaii detective charges: 'Birth certificate' a fraud

HONOLULU, Hawaii – A private investigator claims employees of the state Department of Health forged three Hawaiian birth certificates for Barack 0bama to "screw with birthers."

Takeyuki Irei told WND one document placed the birth at Kapiolani hospital, another at Queens Medical Center and a third in Kenya.

The 57-year-old detective, who has been a P.I. since the 1980s, said he was stunned when he discovered that the purported copy of 0bama's original birth certificate released by the White House was more or less an exact image of one of the forgeries.

. . . . More in article.

Thanks, stockpirate.

44 posted on 05/08/2011 7:56:35 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: bluecat6

Who is Jess Henig, the one with the funny dyed red hair?


45 posted on 05/08/2011 7:57:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: conservativegramma

I didn’t think obama was responsible for the forgery. No way is he dumb enough to do something like that. But apparently he IS dumb enough to be “had” by a fake when birthers arent.


46 posted on 05/08/2011 7:57:03 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Okay....Ma-ha-lo! :)


47 posted on 05/08/2011 7:57:52 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: mamelukesabre

That makes no sense.


48 posted on 05/08/2011 7:58:48 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping!

I wonder if anyone (whether they voted for BO or not) ever wondered why BO just didn’t go down to HDoH with a press entourage and all major news network cameras rolling, and ORDER a copy of his birth certificate for all to see?

What’s with posting this schlock on a Web site?

Are people really that dumb?


49 posted on 05/08/2011 7:59:10 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: unkus

I still think Corsi’s got something and the book is gonna blow this whole deal wide open!

Did the O-man renounce his citizenship in Indonesia? If so, I think he would have had to go through some kind of legal process to restore it - and any citizen who gets perfected citizenship by a legal process IS NOT an NBC.

I think he’s not an NBC because of his fathers British subject status.

But beyond that, there are just too many people, articles, statements, etc. that say HE WAS BORN IN KENYA.
And that would totally disqualify him.

What frustrates me the absolute most is that no matter what, whether the birthers are right or wrong, they at least deserve the truth. I don’t see how people searching for truth can be condemned, but I guess that was back in the good ole days...


50 posted on 05/08/2011 7:59:56 PM PDT by djf (One mouth. Two ears. Is that some kind of hint???)
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