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I’m convinced that 0bama had to be dragged kicking and screaming into giving the go-ahead, if in fact he ever did.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 2:47:38 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: ComputerGuy

> > PANETTA ORDERED THE RAID ? ? Now THIS is believable.!
> >
> > This, forwarded by a Marine friend, is devastating if true.! And I for
> > one would bet it is.! !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > “What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon
> > Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him,
> > involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound.”
> >
> > Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by
> > military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into
> > the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?
> >
> > A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have
> > since followed up and received further details on exactly what that
> > meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’
> > s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an
> > outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because
> > there was no specific position from the president to do so. President
> > Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.
> >
> >
> >
> > (Notice that Panetta is NOT in the room)
> >
> > This update comes some 24 hours after our longtime Washington D.C. Insider
> > first outlined shocking details of an Obama administration having been “
> > overruled” by senior military and intelligence officials leading up to the
> > successful attack against terrorist Osama Bin Laden. What follows is
> > further clarification of Insider’s insights surrounding that event.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for
> > several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary
> > Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition
> > to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that
> > was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. Obama would
> > meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with
> > Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position. This
> > situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and
> > the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She
> > was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a
> > campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her
> > concern rested on two primary fronts. One, that the military action could
> > fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the
> > American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an
> > act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in
> > the Middle East.
> >
> > Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against
> > Osama Bin Laden to proceed?
> >
> > A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid
> > having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to
> > make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling
> > would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as
> > pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed
> > Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports
> > from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel.
> > Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta
> > reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result
> > in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives.
> > Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness
> > to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that
> > innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama
> > would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama
> > hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue
> > with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials,
> > including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but
> > Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at
> > this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may
> > resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta
> > and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.
> >
> > What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful
> > manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding
> > knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner
> > rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the
> > public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the
> > point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an
> > on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid.
> > This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett.
> > Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of
> > failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr.,
> > Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden
> > compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as
> > the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What
> > Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had
> > already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving
> > a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole
> > damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support
> > Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice.
> > Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This
> > information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via
> > military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then
> > informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them
> > he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission
> > if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta
> > of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made
> > into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the
> > opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary
> > Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she
> > would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates.
> > The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private
> > with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval
> > of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit
> > to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had
> > secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting
> > indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval.
> > Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his
> > actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the
> > American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion.
> > Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the
> > 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United
> > States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from
> > him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops
> > forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in
> > Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that
> > order.
> >
> > This insulation ended at some point with an abort order that I believe
> > originated from Valerie Jarrett’s office, and was then followed up by
> > President Obama. This abort order was later explained as a delay due to weather
> > conditions, but the actual conditions at that time would have been acceptable
> > for the mission. A storm system had been in the area earlier, but was no
> > longer an issue. Check the data yourself to confirm. Jarrett, having
> > been caught off guard, was now scrambling to determine who had initiated the
> > plan. She was furious, repeating the acronym “CoC” and saying it was not
> > being followed. This is where Bill Daley intervened. The particulars of
> > that intervention are not clear to me beyond knowing he did meet with
> > Jarrett in his office and following that meeting, Valerie Jarrett was not seen in
> > the West Wing for some time, and apparently no longer offered up any
> > resistance to the Osama Bin Laden mission. What did follow from there was one
> > or more brief meetings between Bill Daley, Hillary Clinton, a
> > representative from Robert Gates’ office, a representative from Leon Panetta’s office,
> > and a representative from Jim Clapper’s office. I have to assume that
> > these meetings were in essence, detailing the move to proceed with the
> > operation against the Osama Bin Laden compound. I have been told by more than one
> > source that Leon Panetta was directing the operation with both his own CIA
> > operatives, as well as direct contacts with military – both entities were
> > reporting to Panetta only at this point, and not the President of the
> > United States. There was not going to be another delay as had happened 24 hour
> > earlier. The operation at this point, was in effect, unknown to President
> > Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett and it remained that way until AFTER it
> > was already underway. President Obama was literally pulled from a golf
> > outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission.
> > Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John
> > Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from
> > the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.”
> > The president was then placed in the “situation room” where several of the
> > players in this event had already been watching the operation unfold.
> > Another interesting tidbit regarding this is that the Vice President was
> > already “up to speed” on the operation. A source indicated they believe
> > Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware
> > of that day’s events before the president was. The now famous photo
> > released shows the particulars of that of that room and its occupants. What that
> > photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present
> > in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary
> > Clinton or Robert Gates. The president’s role was minimal, including their
> > acknowledging of his presence in the room.
> >
> > At the conclusion of the mission, after it had been repeatedly confirmed
> > a success, President Obama was once again briefed behind closed doors. The
> > only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley.
> > John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me.
> > When leaving this briefing, the president came out of it “…much more
> > confident. Much more certain of himself.” He was also carrying papers in his
> > hand that quite possibly was the address to the nation given later that
> > evening on the Bin Laden mission. The president did not have those papers with
> > him prior to that briefing. The president then returned to the war room,
> > where by this time, Leon Panetta had personally arrived and was receiving
> > congratulations from all who were present.
> >
> > In my initial communication to you of these events I described what
> > unfolded as a temporary Coup initiated by high ranking intelligence and military
> > officials. I stand by that term. These figures worked around the
> > uncertainty of President Obama and the repeated resistance of Valerie Jarrett. If
> > they had not been willing to do so, I am certain Osama Bin Laden would
> > still be alive today. There will be no punishment to those who acted outside
> > the authority of the president’s office. The president cannot afford to
> > admit such a fact. What will be most interesting from here is to now see
> > what becomes of Valerie Jarrett. One source indicated she is threatening
> > resignation. I find that unlikely given my strong belief she needs the
> > protection afforded her by the Oval Office and its immense powers to delay and
> > eventually terminate investigations back in Chicago, but we shall see.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > HERE’S THE LINK:
> > _http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-iss
> > ued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden_
> > (http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden)


3 posted on 05/09/2011 2:53:24 AM PDT by dalereed
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