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That birth certificate is phony
WND ^ | May 10, 2011 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/10/2011 10:22:15 PM PDT by RobinMasters

I don't know about you, but I'm persuaded the birth certificate released by Barack Obama's White House is fake, phony, a fraudulent forgery.

Jerome Corsi, who has personally investigated Obama's constitutional eligibility more seriously than anyone else, agrees.

Why?

- Why release only a digital image of a document this controversial – one that cannot, according to forensics experts, be tested for authenticity?

- Why would Kapiolani Medical Center still be so sensitive about Obama's birthplace as to refuse all inquiries about Stanley Ann Dunham's hospital stay – even threatening this week to call the police when the non-threatening 64-year-old Ph.D. and best-selling author Corsi merely had some questions to ask?

- Now that Obama has claimed the hospital as his birthplace, why would Kapiolani still maintain an air of secrecy about it rather than celebrate and mark the historic birth of the first black president and the first from the state of Hawaii?

- Why the anomalies associated with the document – including the so-called "layering" as seen by amateur and professional sleuths who have examined it?

- Why the extraneous pencil markings found on both the White House release and the obvious earlier forgery showing a Kenyan birth?

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1 posted on 05/10/2011 10:22:17 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Agreed!

FAKE!!!!!!
Otherwise it would look like Nordyke twins BC....but it does not! It is a digital image of put together info...from God knows were from...


2 posted on 05/10/2011 10:28:15 PM PDT by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: RobinMasters
But the biggest mystery of all, perhaps, is why the media collectively have shown so little curiosity about the document – accepting it at face value immediately after its release without testing or serious questioning.

Joe knows the answer to that question -- it's no mystery.

3 posted on 05/10/2011 10:31:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: RobinMasters
it doesn't matter if its a phony, Obama is our monarch now : the constitution is moot, we are ruled by an oligarchy now

there are much larger issues that get covered up (like going to war in libya without congressional approval, or obamacare for instance)

4 posted on 05/10/2011 10:32:12 PM PDT by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: astratt7

The reason I think it’s fake is that there’s nothing on it worth hiding. BHO has been hiding his real BC because there’s something he doesn’t want us to see. Whatever that is, it has been changed on the thing he has presented. He is a liar and a fraud.


5 posted on 05/10/2011 10:32:48 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: RobinMasters
Document forgery is hard to prove. In this case you have a better chance of getting to the Shroud of Turin than you do at looking at any of Obama's documents. We need to go after Obummer another way. This way doesn't seem to be working. I'm not saying if his b.c. is real or not. It's just not the way to get him out of office.

I've seen other high profile documents go for years before they were proved as forgeries. Look up Mark Hoffman (Salamander Letter) or the Mormon Will (Howard Hughes. These documents had better access but it took years to prove them wrong. Fooled a lot of people.

Things like this could make him beatable: Employment rate for black men at record low: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110510/bs_yblog_thelookout/employment-rate-for-black-men-at-record-low

6 posted on 05/10/2011 10:46:05 PM PDT by cruise_missile (Palin: More woman than Michelle. More man than Barack.)
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To: RobinMasters

“I don’t know about you, but I’m persuaded the birth certificate released by Barack Obama’s White House is fake, phony, a fraudulent forgery.”

Joesph Farah

“I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I’m not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct!”

Joeseph Farah


7 posted on 05/10/2011 10:50:37 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: RobinMasters

BC is a phony, as was the killing of Bin Laden. The prez is a phony.


8 posted on 05/10/2011 10:55:21 PM PDT by chemicalman ("The taxpayer - work for the Fed gvmt, but doesn't take a civil service exam. Reagan)
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To: trumandogz

>> “I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I’m not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct!”

It only takes one successfully instance of Jurassic cloning to make that statement true.


9 posted on 05/10/2011 11:02:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: RobinMasters

Yes, I agree that it is, but he won’t be defeated by this line of attack.


10 posted on 05/10/2011 11:05:39 PM PDT by chris37 (awesome!)
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To: trumandogz

When Joseph Farah and Orly Taitz are your front people on an issue, you should be prepared to look like a conspiracy theorist. These people bring all sorts of bad baggage with them.


11 posted on 05/10/2011 11:07:22 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: RobinMasters

Yeah, it’s totally fake. He had been working on that fake form for a long, long time. That’s why’s there’s so many layers. The idiot slipped up and forgot to flatten the layers before releasing it.

People were focused on examining it and discovering the fraud. Then all of a sudden the Osama Bin Laden farce was pulled. I don’t believe the hoax. It’s more lies from the liar in chief. No body, no pictures, and old fake videos of actors playing acting like Osama Bin Laden. Look at the phony beard and the picture of an old man from behind. You can’t even see the face.

The story changes all the time and nothing adds up. Lies, lies, and more lies. People freaking out over a stinking garbage bag of trash somebody left somewhere. More hysteria about terrorist and the borders wide open. TSA looking inside babies diapers. More molestation at the airports with plans of doing it to people traveling by bus, trains, at shopping centers, sports events, etc. They said killing Osama would make us safer. Lies, lies, lies.


12 posted on 05/10/2011 11:09:58 PM PDT by abcc2011 (Christian and conservative.)
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To: RobinMasters

DONATE


13 posted on 05/10/2011 11:16:56 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: RobinMasters
A random thought...
The Obama campaign released the first COLB.
The Obama administration released the second COLB.

At no time has the State of Hawaii released any documents to the public.

So now that the second supposedly complete COLB has been released then any "privacy concerns" are moot as the document is now public and Hawaii should release the records to the public, not to just the administration or it's attorneys.
Just my opinion.

14 posted on 05/10/2011 11:28:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: trumandogz; RobinMasters

“I don’t know about you, but I’m persuaded the birth certificate released by Barack Obama’s White House is fake, phony, a fraudulent forgery.”

Joesph Farah

“I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I’m not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct!”

Joeseph Farah


This requires repeating.

Farah and reality have only a passing association.


15 posted on 05/10/2011 11:29:13 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: trumandogz
“I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I’m not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct!” Joeseph Farah

Your antics remind me of a rock group...Cheap Trick.

Why I believe in Creation
The evolutionists insist the dinosaurs lived millions and millions of years ago and became extinct long before man walked the planet.
I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe there is a shred of scientific evidence to suggest it. I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I'm not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct!
Think of all the world's legends about dragons. Look at those images. What were those folks seeing? They were clearly seeing dinosaurs. You can see them etched in cave drawings. You can see them in ancient literature. You can see them described in the Bible. You can see them in virtually every culture in every corner of the world.
Did the human race have a collective common nightmare? Or did these people actually see dragons? I believe they saw dragons – what we now call dinosaurs.

Everything in context.

16 posted on 05/10/2011 11:35:00 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: saltus
This requires repeating. Farah and reality have only a passing association.

Which instrument do you play in the band? The drum? You're beating one loud enough.

17 posted on 05/10/2011 11:38:30 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: saltus; trumandogz


WOW! Rocks depicting men riding dinosaurs.
18 posted on 05/10/2011 11:47:16 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: saltus
I don't know who you're trying to convince, but I'm not buying it. Besides that, Farah isn't the only person who said it's a fake. Many professional document analysts have said the same thing. Just go to YouTube if you want proof of that.
19 posted on 05/10/2011 11:47:26 PM PDT by ASouthernGrl (Call me crazy but that man in the WH is illegal)
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To: Lazlo in PA; RobinMasters; trumandogz

Farah has one and only one purpose—to get rich by milking naive conservatives.

Every dollar sent to WND is a dollar not going to a real conservative candidate—or to FR.


20 posted on 05/10/2011 11:51:09 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: saltus
Every dollar sent to WND is a dollar not going to a real conservative candidate—or to FR.
Which conservative candidate do you suggest others send their money to?
21 posted on 05/11/2011 12:16:25 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RobinMasters

The 2, and the other handwritten notations the “long form” released by Obama look to me like coding notations written to guide data entry. If you look at the various lines you see it’s reasonable to think that Male=1, No=2, Caucasian=1, African=9, and so forth. When numerical codes are used, handwritten coding notations on documents are quite common so whoever enters the data does not have to stop to look up codes.


22 posted on 05/11/2011 12:19:11 AM PDT by Marylander (!)
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To: RobinMasters
- Why release only a digital image of a document this controversial – one that cannot, according to forensics experts, be tested for authenticity?

Point one is exactly what I have been saying all this time and getting ridiculed for it!

Why can't we see the actual document??

Attempting to prove a digital copy as a legitimate document is a Fool's errand!

Thank you.

23 posted on 05/11/2011 12:26:14 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

what kind of baggage does commie dunham bring.


24 posted on 05/11/2011 12:37:15 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Aria

If the “BC” released is the real deal, why hold back the original LFBC? Forensics will prove once and for all he is legitimate (as far as location of birth). Otherwise, there will always be a question.

Something does not pass the smell test here.


25 posted on 05/11/2011 2:01:29 AM PDT by Know et al
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To: RobinMasters
Why hasn't anyone explained the typo "txe" on the Alvin Onaka signature rubber stamp? How many other birth certificates have this same typo on it?

-PJ

26 posted on 05/11/2011 2:41:11 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: cruise_missile
"We need to go after Obummer another way. "

No - we need to go after him in every way possible.

He's ruined our economy, destroyed our industry, lost our international clout and done damage to every aspect of our lives.

But he's also a fraud and a forgerer.

I have strong suspicions when folks drop in here and tell us we ought to ignore this issue. Every issue of Constitutionality is important, including a fraudulent birth document.

27 posted on 05/11/2011 2:49:44 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: saltus

So what’s your proof of this? Can you provide it? Do you have a copy of their financial statements and disbursements?

I’d like to see proof that your accusations are true the same way I’d like to see proof that POTUS is in office legally.


28 posted on 05/11/2011 3:15:12 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: cruise_missile
Document forgery is hard to prove. In this case you have a better chance of getting to the Shroud of Turin than you do at looking at any of Obama's documents. We need to go after Obummer another way. This way doesn't seem to be working. I'm not saying if his b.c. is real or not. It's just not the way to get him out of office

There's a better chance of proving this whole birth certificate/birther thing is a George Soros funded movement to derail the Tea Party Conservatives than proving Obama's birth certificate is forged. For the media, it's not Obama's eligibility that's the news here, it's those crazy Republicans that won't leave the birth certificate issue alone. Since the Trump thing a few weeks ago, they don't even call them Birthers anymore. If this stupid issue is still around in a year, Obama will be able to sway the moderates back his way by November.

29 posted on 05/11/2011 3:47:19 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: RobinMasters

I have to admit that I am becoming curious about the Ninth Circuit’s decision. It’s taking more time than a summary dismissal would seem to need.


30 posted on 05/11/2011 4:07:00 AM PDT by snowsislander (The Nigerian 419 scammers must be envious of what this Kenyan fraud has accomplished.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

This is a major announcement, and a courageous one. This document is flawed in so many ways that it is ridiculous. The question, “Where is the birth certificate” is still valid...this one fails to answer the question, in fact, it provides more questions than answers.


31 posted on 05/11/2011 4:10:29 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: philman_36

A state cannot release a person’s birth certificate. The person or a near-relative must request it. If this BC is fake, then the Dept. of Vital Records in Hawaii is involved. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, which no one will be able to prove otherwise, the fact remains his supposed father was not an American citizen but no one who matters seems to care. He will not be defeated on this issue.


32 posted on 05/11/2011 4:17:48 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: cruise_missile

“It’s just not the way to get him out of office.”

I disagree. It may be the ONLY way to get him out of office. They must have massive voter fraud planned for 2012, because every day they do something that angers most of the population. If it can be proven that he is inelegible and/or a fraud, it would be impossible for him to stay in office. Since it is clear that he is inelegible and/or a fraud, it should be possible to prove. We have an uphill climb because they have corrupted the media and the courts who refuse to consider our evidence and in the media’s case, boldly lie for their master. We have to work around them and adopt some of their tactics and the internet levels the field, somewhat, but we could surely benefit from the defection of some of the LSM. Surely, there are still a few honest journalists. Well, maybe not. The odds are against us because the deck has been stacked, but they are not insurmountable. Truth has God on its side and will prevail. We must not give up, but we must tread carefully. The current edition of the BC is such an obvious forgery that it begs further scrutiny. Why would they release such a bad fake? We have to learn to think like the deviates we are dealing with and we have to PRAY.


33 posted on 05/11/2011 4:40:43 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: trumandogz

You and Tammy Wynnette, t-dogz

and a one, and a two...
“Stand by your man...”

may I add Hillary! to the mix


34 posted on 05/11/2011 4:43:26 AM PDT by paythefiddler (redefeat communism)
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To: Lazlo in PA

What bad baggage does Josepph Farah bring with him? I have been reading him for years and he seems to be one of the few still in possession of common sense.


35 posted on 05/11/2011 4:44:05 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: saltus

Who’s paying for the billboards?


36 posted on 05/11/2011 4:47:43 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
Maybe someone should inform our Attorney General, or Senate Majority Leader about it... Until we get Obama out of office, take back the Senate and keep the House, nothing will be done about it. I would love to see former President Obama brought up on fraud charges by a government that will do something about it, but it won't happen until he's out of office.
37 posted on 05/11/2011 4:50:48 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: ilovesarah2012
A state cannot release a person’s birth certificate.
You've got to be kidding me. Special dispensation for the administration!
No, seriously, you need to talk to the City of Haverhill, MA.
Q: Are birth certificates public records?
A: Unless your parents were not married at the time of your birth, birth certificates are available to any member of the public.

Seems like some States make them public record. It must change from State to State.

The person or a near-relative must request it.
Or lawyers or the courts or...well, I'm pretty sure it varies from State to State as well.

...the fact remains his supposed father was not an American citizen but no one who matters seems to care.
You've a low appraisal of yourself. You matter and you care.
OH! I see! You're saying the cult of personality is the only way this issue will move. My bad. I thought regular Citizens could have their grievances addressed.

He will not be defeated on this issue.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
However, much like you have collateral damage you also have cumulative damage from a wide array of issues.
So you go on now, Pilgrim (/The Duke) and take whatever course of action you deem will defeat him. I'll carry on here.

38 posted on 05/11/2011 5:00:40 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

The ultimate document we sought was Obama’s birth certificate. Unlike the other documents, Hawaii birth certificates aren’t public record. Only family members can request copies, so when the campaign declined to give us one, we were stalled.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

Several courts have ruled that plaintiffs didn’t have “standing” on the issue. Congress won’t touch it, courts won’t touch it. You tell me how to resolve the issue.

I am more concerned that the Republicans find a candidate who can beat Obama in 2012. So far I don’t see any who have any interest in running.


39 posted on 05/11/2011 5:07:13 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: RobinMasters

I don’t know what’s going on here. The circumstances are certainly suspicious, and the Media cover-up is obvious. But Ann Coulter’s observation makes sense (paraphrased): If the Clintons couldn’t dig dirt out of this, it’s not there.


40 posted on 05/11/2011 5:23:23 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Truth is the first casualty of American journalism.)
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To: abcc2011
Yeah, it’s totally fake. He had been working on that fake form for a long, long time. That’s why’s there’s so many layers. The idiot slipped up and forgot to flatten the layers before releasing it

If the layers truly indicate that the document was artificially constructed, then why do the layers themselves look so machine-created? There are words (not only within thetered on the form, but within the background text on the form itself) that are split between layers. Why would a person do that?

When I first learned that there were layers in the document, I found it suspicious. When I went on Youtube to watch the videos 'proving' the document was fake because of the layers, it became clear to me that the layers were machine-created anomalies resulting from the scanning/compression process. If a person were to artificially create a document, there is no way it would look like this one.

41 posted on 05/11/2011 5:25:03 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: RobinMasters

Keep in mind that Farah has strong financial incentives to claim the certificate is fake. A good chunk of his website is devoted to birth certificate/eligibility issues. He works closely with Corsi, whose book sales/orders depend on people thinking the birth certificate has not been released. And, he has promised $15,000 to Obama’s birth hospital on the release of a long-form birth certificate listing a hospital.


42 posted on 05/11/2011 5:30:28 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Obama and his posse just don’t give a chit anymore...his approval rating up....fake document tossed out there followed by a Wag the Dog show with Bin whoever....the media is stupidly satisfied by the fake BC. The media is mesmerized by the multiple story lines about the death, disposal and deception of the OBL soap opera.

Obama is the anti Christ....at least to me, he is. The stoopid part of America voted this guy in and they are just dumb enough and without any moral or religious compass to do it again.


43 posted on 05/11/2011 5:39:28 AM PDT by oust the louse (The death of Osama is as mysterious as the life of Obama.)
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To: eCSMaster
I have strong suspicions when folks drop in here and tell us we ought to ignore this issue. Every issue of Constitutionality is important, including a fraudulent birth document

You do realize that works both ways? Also we are not drop-ins, many people have argued this issue here and given it their best shot. The WH PDF is clearly a rope-a-dope digital artifact created from an original paper doc by scanning (whether the paper was forged or not) with the express purpose of consuming time and seeing how many people will waste how much of their time "analyzing" the layers. Whether it was created for nefarious purposes or just for laughs is not really relevant.

What would be most useful is for someone with authority to point out that to the WH that the PDF they released was manipulated, that it is not simply a scan of the piece of paper that was delivered to the WH. That piece of paper that came in the envelope from Hawaii is what needs to be examined by the experts. But the WH decided to play games and not release the piece of paper or an unprocessed scan of it. The fish took the bait and now they are on the hook trying, as before, to prove something they can't prove. So we get more tiring, repetitious and mostly wrong analyses of some digital junk. Yeah, but look at all the layers!!! (as the fish wriggle on the hook)

44 posted on 05/11/2011 5:40:46 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Josephat
I disagree. It may be the ONLY way to get him out of office. They must have massive voter fraud planned for 2012, because every day they do something that angers most of the population. If it can be proven that he is inelegible and/or a fraud, it would be impossible for him to stay in office.

The best way to get Obama out of office is to point out that rises in unemployment, gas prices, health care premiums, etc are his fault. The voters that can be swung are not going to be impressed by the BC nonsense. As for proving ineligbility, that's been debated ad nauseum here with no clear procedure how that would be done.

45 posted on 05/11/2011 5:45:19 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Josephat

WND has their URL on the billboards, so I presume they are paying for them.


46 posted on 05/11/2011 5:46:21 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: RobinMasters

This comment is for all those that say this issue should be dropped, the reasons it cannot be dropped or ignored is that if the truth is never revealed our future generations will be wrongfully led to believe false and untrue documents.

So are we so narrow minded that we need to forget truth and justice solely for now and thus not our next and future generations?

We would be no better than the “I,me I Won” himself.

I cannot ignore deceptions being enacted now that will be etched in stone for the history books, and we cannot assume the truth will be corrected 5, 10 or 100 years from now.

Its our job, our duty, our moral obligation to doggedly pursue Obama until we tree him, it may not remove him from office but it makes the stand for truth, liberty and justice, things many people are ignoring for a wrongfully directed political agenda.


47 posted on 05/11/2011 5:57:56 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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To: RobinMasters

Obama could have relases a “logn form BC” drawn with CRAYON and the lib media would have turned to Donald Trump and said “SeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEeeeeeee~!!”


48 posted on 05/11/2011 6:00:34 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: trumandogz

That is called an AD HOMINEM attack.

It is much like the White House hiding behind “standing” to avoid a court decision on the merits.

Why not argue the merits of the case or documents? - You don’t dare allow this to be settled on the merits, WHY?


49 posted on 05/11/2011 6:09:51 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: philman_36

Here is my proposal for the Obama to clear this whole thing up:

o Waive privacy rights to the documents relating to his birth with the state of Hawaii.

o Have Hawaii deliver a certified copy of the birth certificate, to all requestors - for a charge of $115.

o The proceeds will cover administrative costs ($15) and a $100 to a homeless shelter.

Since the information is already out, there is no real loss of privacy to Obama, and everyone can get a reminder of one of the iconic issues of Obama’s first term. (And real hard-core skeptics can examine a true certified paper copy.)

PLUS

Some great charities will get the benefit of both birther skepticism and gift giver’s generosity. These things would sell like hotcakes.

Come on Obama - feed the homeless...


50 posted on 05/11/2011 6:11:45 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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