Skip to comments.Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God
Posted on 05/12/2011 11:54:16 AM PDT by hope_dies_last
Current state of affairs - brought to measure by the forebodings of yester-year and the pillars of our Great Nation regarding...
I. THE WITHOLDING OF INFORMATION:
"Information is the currency of democracy."
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God."
II. THE ENCROACHMENT OF GOVERNMENT:
"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?"
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."
"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
III. OUR DUTY TO PRESERVE THE FOUNDATIONS AND REPAIRING THE BREACH:
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."
"The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind."
"What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
IV. THE 2ND AMMENDMENT:
"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
V. BANKING AND NATION'S ECONOMY
"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
VI. OUR MENTAL ATTITUDE AND PRESCRIBED OUTLOOK AMIDST THIS CRISIS:
"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude"
"I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it."
VII. LAST, BUT NOT LEAST--THE MSM (MAIN STREAM MEDIA)
"The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing, but newspapers."
- Thomas Jefferson, 1743-1826
Intelligent, insightful, divinely endowed wisdom, prophetic?
Just food for thought...
(Don't expect your nearest public school, Barry or Hillary to teach you this!!!!)
How could I forget!!!
REGARDING BHO (Barack Hussein Obama):
“Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.”
- Thomas Jefferson
I don’t put a lot of stock in Jefferson’s theology.
"Rebellion to Tyrants is obedience to God"
Reverse side of the First Committee U.S. seal proposal.
The first committee consisted of Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams.
Franklin chose an allegorical scene from Exodus, described in his notes as "Moses standing on the Shore, and extending his Hand over the Sea, thereby causing the same to overwhelm Pharaoh who is sitting in an open Chariot, a Crown on his Head and a Sword in his Hand. Rays from a Pillar of Fire in the Clouds reaching to Moses, to express that he acts by Command of the Deity." Motto, "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God."
Tom was the King of Irony, being a slaveowner and all.
Does't detract one bit from the value of what he said. He was one of the greatest writers of rhetoric in history. But it does detract significantly from the value I assign him as a person.
Have you read this? The Bible, Slavery, and America's Founders
Regardless of your disdain or dislike for good old “Tom”...
Can you name one good quote from a person holding high office in recent years?
Once again, unfailingly, the gnat strainers come out of the woodwork.
The point is not “Tom’s” character defects, but the relevance of what he said, still today.
I wonder if your words will, the same, echo through history...
Give me a break.
Thank you for your reply... very insightful and edifying.
Hadn’t seen that particular compilation before, but am familiar with most of the material.
The problem with using the OT to show the validity of slavery is that there is very little in common between the slavery of the OT and that of America.
Slavery here was much closer to that of the classical world, but there was one HUGE difference. Slavery in the classical world never had a race connection. Racism + slavery made a peculiarly toxic mix.
The link was given in response to your inference that Jefferson was a hypocrite, not to validate slavery using the OT or otherwise.
The Founders Believed Slavery Was Fundamentally Wrong.
"Thomas Jefferson's original draft of the Declaration included a strong denunciation of slavery, declaring the king's perpetuation of the slave trade and his vetoing of colonial anti-slavery measures as one reason the colonists were declaring their independence:
He [King George III] has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere. . . . Determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or restrain this execrable commerce. 22 "
The Founders took action against slavery.
There is no question Jefferson was a hypocrite, and I was not inferring it. I was stating it, and I think it’s so obvious the statement doesn’t really need any defense. What would YOU call someone who proclaims his hatred of slavery while simultaneously owning 200 human beings, and routinely selling off one or two whenever he wants some new furniture?
It is also fair to say there are reasons why he and others of his time were forced into a hypocritical position. And their hypocrisy was far preferable to the position many of their grandsons took of proclaiming slavery to be a positive good, working aggressively for its perpetuation and extension.
I have read perhaps a half dozen biographies each of Jefferson, Washington and Adams.
The more I learn about Washington and Adams, the greater my admiration for them, although frankly Adams got a little odd in his later years politically.
The more I learn about Jefferson the more I become aware of his hypocrisy, manipulativeness, cowardice and other unattractive traits.
He wrote the most magnificent rhetoric in all history in the cause of liberty. He was also pretty much of a dishonorable jerk. The former far outweighs the latter in the eyes of history, as it should, but as a man he falls far below the other two.
BTW, I recognize I was unclear in my comments on the OT and slavery. I wasn’t trying to say you were trying to justify slavery on this basis, but doing so was very common among defenders of slavery in the 19th century.
With the exception to the grandsons, I’ve read pretty much what you’ve stated.
I just didn’t see any hypocrisy in founders that inherited slaves, hated slavery but were forbidden by law from freeing them.
Selling them would not free them, naturally, but it would alleviate a sense of hypocrisy.
Yes, Washington and Adams were great. Washington was probably the greatest but they all had strengths in some areas and weaknesses in others. Together they were all extraordinary.
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