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New Analysis On Obama's Birth Certificate Number: The Little Man Who Wasn’t There!!
ObamaRelease YourRecords ^ | Sunday, May 15, 2011 | Joe E. Sheldon, citizen

Posted on 05/16/2011 7:24:04 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

As I recalled this little poem the other night it set me to wondering if we in America might have a “Little Man Who Wasn’t There” in the person of a man in the Oval Office who has never shown himself to be eligible to hold that office. I saw the April 27, 2011 birth certificate posted on the White House website and wondered what it might show if it were real so I decided to find out. For starters, let’s pretend that the document posted on the WH site April 27, 2011 (hereafter WHBC) is on the up and up as the man now occupying the Oval Office pretends. Let’s also pretend that the missing birth vitals (height, weight, etc.) attested to by the physician who in fact delivered the infant are not required to show an actual birth (which of course is nonsense) and/or that any adoption or other information is of no interest - even though there is ample evidence that the individual WAS adopted in Indonesia. We’ll also ignore all of the gross and obvious signs of forgery ... we’re pretending it’s honest, ok???

What, then, does the WHBC REALLY show??? Let’s stick only to facts already known and point to definitive sources in analyzing the document. Note that we are not commenting on whether the WHBC is real or forged but merely stipulating for the purpose of this analysis that IF it is real then what does it actually tell us???1

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
The Little Man Who Wasn’t There!!

Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today Oh, how I wish he’d go away

- "Antigonish" (1899) Hughes Mearns

1 posted on 05/16/2011 7:24:11 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I think the BC number is at this point, focusing on the wrong thing. What he showed, the BC itself, appears to be a fraud and should be the focus and subject of investigation and demands for explanation.


2 posted on 05/16/2011 7:29:58 AM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: Jim 0216

I think the BC number is at this point, focusing on the wrong thing. What he showed, the BC itself, appears to be a fraud and should be the focus and subject of investigation and demands for explanation.


Together with a SSN that came back from the SSN Verification system as never having been isued to BHO II.


3 posted on 05/16/2011 7:33:51 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

How is this new???

New as of when?

Which particular discovery has been made?

(Not that we really need anymore)


4 posted on 05/16/2011 7:45:28 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Obama was an Indonesian citizen.. when did he apply for and become an American citizen again?.. or did he?..
Where is the documentation?..

Its common knowledge his mother was a "b!tch.. and he's a SOB..
BUT when did he apply for and become an American citizen again?..
Dingle Barry is hanging on to one of the hairs on Uncle Sams butt..

5 posted on 05/16/2011 7:48:53 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

i agree with what you say. but NOT how you say it.
i don’t think referring to people that way, strenghtens your argument. we should stick to facts, not crude words!

...i actually believe he was born in Hawaii, and he was adopted by Soetoro. that his name was legally changed, and he never legally changed it back.
This is very logical and reasonable. (even today, some people adopt children to make a stronger family. i am planning to do so with my fiancee’s child.)
The Indonesia public school documents and requirements, support this. Even his own statement that he didn’t have a US passport until 2004, supports this. (Plus, the fact he stayed in Indonesia longer than 3 months, to write his book, which would have been difficult unless he was an Indonesian citizen.
this would also fit with his lawyer’s statement in court, that to reveal the records would be “embarrassing”.


6 posted on 05/16/2011 7:59:12 AM PDT by Elendur
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To: Elendur
[ i agree with what you say. but NOT how you say it. i don’t think referring to people that way, strengthens your argument. we should stick to facts, not crude words! ]

Crude situations require crude words to express the reality..
Unless one is trying to sugar coat something.. or white wash it!..
You know....... dazzle with bull squirt.. or be mealy mouthed..

All PollyAnnas have a problem with reality..

7 posted on 05/16/2011 8:12:40 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

WOW. A MUST READ. Great article. Everything you need to know, many things you DIDN’T know, with links to everything else.

Some typos, so watch out for those. I hate typos that turn your meaning 180 degrees. Proof read your stuff.


8 posted on 05/16/2011 8:15:00 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Trump has more yelling to do and BO has more ‘splaining to do.


9 posted on 05/16/2011 8:22:05 AM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: Jim 0216

This is THE definitive piece on the entire genesis of the fraud.....brilliant, probing, devastating to the fraudulence of Zero.


10 posted on 05/16/2011 8:27:01 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Elendur

Get off the Indonesian angle. IT DOESNT MATTER AT ALL. STOP ALREADY. A child can not give up his U.S. citizenship. Neither can his parentsfor him. Whatever a foreign country does has no effect on your U.S. citizenship.

HE WAS A CHILD. U.S. citizenship PROTECTED for you until age of majority 18 years of age.

PERKINS V. ELG, 307 U. S. 325 (1939)

U.S. Supreme Court

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

Perkins v. Elg

No. 454

Argued February 3, 1939

Decided May 29, 1939*

307 U.S. 325

Syllabus

1. A child born here of alien parentage becomes a citizen of the United States. P. 307 U. S. 328.

2. As municipal law determines how citizenship may be acquired, the same person may possess a dual nationality. P. 307 U. S. 329.

3. A citizen by birth retains his United States citizenship unless deprived of it through the operation of a treaty or congressional enactment or by his voluntary action in conformity with applicable legal principles. P. 307 U. S. 329.

4. It has long been a recognized principle in this country that, if a child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents’ origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that, on attaining majority, he elects to retain that citizenship and to return to the United States to assume its duties. P. 307 U. S. 329.

http://supreme.justia.com/us/307/325/


11 posted on 05/16/2011 8:39:21 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I do not dispute that he may be a US Citizen; however, I do not believe him to be a Natural-born Citizen as required by the Constitution.


12 posted on 05/16/2011 8:43:58 AM PDT by KEmom (Proud to be a Mama Grizzly!!!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

In case you missed this about the child that died Aug 5, 1961 in Hawaii.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/did-hawaii-doh-steal-dead-baby-girls.html


13 posted on 05/16/2011 9:03:10 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

This is excellent. Why isn’t it showing up on the Natural Born Citizen search page? It certainly belongs there.


14 posted on 05/16/2011 10:45:27 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Coupla basic points:

What the WH received from HI was not a BC. Nor was it a Copy of the LFBC.
It was an Abstract from data on file, that is, a newly created digital document. The WH itself has never called what they released a BC, nor a copy of the LFBC. They have cleverly left that for the MSM to sell as a foregone conclusion.

Repeat, Mike, we do not yet have a BC. There is a WH-xeroxed copy of an abstract sent from HI. Period. we can have absolutely no idea of whether the abstract is accurate, or complete, until we see the original LFBC, or a certified copy. An Abstract is not a Copy of an original.

So, in order to prove that the serial number on the ABSTRACT was lifted from the BC of the deceased Baby Girl Virginia Sunahara, you would need a certified copy of that LFBC.

Since, contrary to it's own UIPA (Uniform Iformation Provision Act... a Hawaiian FOIA) HIDOH would not release Obama Info, how does one get them to release the dead child's?

Mike, this BC is sleight of hand, legerdemain, misdirection.

15 posted on 05/16/2011 11:17:13 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I believe that you are 100% correct.


16 posted on 05/16/2011 3:39:50 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Elendur

“.i actually believe he was born in Hawaii, and he was adopted by Soetoro. that his name was legally changed, and he never legally changed it back.”

yes I’m pretty sure this is what the real problem is as well. also add in using the soetoro alias to get foreign student scholarships as well.


17 posted on 05/16/2011 4:26:22 PM PDT by Jeff Vader
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To: Elendur
I believe he somebody was born in Hawaii, and he somebody was adopted by Soetoro. that his somebody's name was legally changed, and he never legally changed it back we have no idea where the occupant of the oval office actually came from.
18 posted on 05/16/2011 5:04:22 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month...April.)
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To: Jeff Vader; OldEagle; ROCKLOBSTER
Attorney Hemenway, of Hollister v Soetoro tried to get to the bottom of this "name" thing. His request to the SCOTUS was dismissed w/o comment, twice.

The deal is that if he were legally adopted by Soetoro, which is likely, but not actually known, two things would happen:
(1) His name would be changed from "Obama" to "Soetoro," or similar Indonesian moniker
(2) The original LFBC, if indeed there ever were one, would be amended. The original would then be sealed and a new BC issued in Barry's new adopted name. SOP in most jurisdictions.

Hemenway thinks that is what happened. After leaving Indonesia, Barry Soetoro never petitioned the courts to change his name back. Not only that, on his Illinois Bar Application, he denied ever using the Soetoro name, or other alias. That took nerve! So it is entirely possible that he has been cruising for 30 years with a name not strictly and legally his. Actually this would ordinarily not be a hanging offense for an ordinary civilian. After a while the name you're using can actually get to be yours with ID and everything. Just don't ask for a security clearance. For an attorney, or for a Presidential candidate IT IS A VERY VERY BIG DEAL. So Hemenway thinks that is why Obama/Soetoro pressured everyone to keep the records under wraps ... and not just the BC.

But while we find this endlessly fascinating, the SCOTUS simply dismissed the whole thing with no comment. Read Hemenway's excellent brief at www.scribd.com/.../Berg-Hollister-v-Soetoro-aka-Obama-Biden-Complaint - Cached - Similar

19 posted on 05/16/2011 7:38:27 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: Elendur

Name Ping


20 posted on 05/16/2011 7:40:42 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: faucetman
Get off the Indonesian angle. IT DOESNT MATTER AT ALL. STOP ALREADY. A child can not give up his U.S. citizenship. Neither can his parentsfor him. Whatever a foreign country does has no effect on your U.S. citizenship.

A couple of points. In the Wong Kim Ark case, the Supreme Court acknowledged that (at the time) parents COULD do something to cause the child to lose his or her citizenship: "... has never lost or changed that residence, or gained or acquired another residence, and neither he nor his parents acting for him ever renounced his allegiance to the United States, or did or committed any act or thing to exclude him ..." The state department has admitted on an adoption website that it cannot protect U.S. citizenship for those persons adopted in countries that do not recognize dual citizenship (such as Indonesia). Further, the issue isn't just whether Obama/ Soetoro may have lost/renounced his U.S. citizenship (if he EVER had it to begin with), but whether Obama acted as a foreign citizen as an adult and whether he took steps to dishonestly hide his foreign citizenship(s) from voters. How many people vote for a guy when they learn he's lied about whether he was ever the citizen of another country??

21 posted on 05/17/2011 12:58:51 AM PDT by edge919
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To: faucetman
"1. A child born here of alien parentage becomes a citizen of the United States. P. 307 U. S. 328."

Why do you assune that he was born "here"?

22 posted on 05/17/2011 4:01:54 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Elendur

“...his own statement that he didn’t have a US passport until 2004...”
Could you direct me to a source for this? Since O. publicly stated that he travelled to Pakistan and India in 1980, this would be a most interesting contradiction. Thanks.


23 posted on 05/19/2011 11:25:21 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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