Skip to comments.Investigative book about "Babygate", Sarah Palin's faked pregnancy with Trig, about to be published
Posted on 05/16/2011 11:53:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Good news, everyone! We have survived the latest flare-up of the conspiracy theory generally known as "Trig Trutherism"—the discredited hypothesis that Sarah Palin's youngest son is not hers.
Last week, The Lies of Sarah Palin author Geoffrey Dunn published a lengthy piece—spiked by the Huffington Post, then acquired by the traffic-hungrier Business Insider—going over the same turf. His argument was blown to smithereens by Justin Elliott at Salon as well as by other reporters who sighed and decided to engage with one of the duller conspiracy theories of all time. (A serious conspiracy theory should seem less like a General Hospital subplot.)
It's a familiar rationale for conspiracy theorists: They investigate as much in sorrow as in anger. They are always just one confession away from the truth. This kind of logic is much more understandable, if no more sensible, after reading Among the Truthers: A Journey Through America's Growing Conspiracist Underground, a smart and serious new book by Canadian journalist Jonathan Kay. His book shows why Americans are becoming so willing to believe lurid fantasies about the government or politicians they don't like or vaccines or the theory that the federal government was behind the attacks of 9/11 (these believers are the "truthers" of his title). And you realize that the world of conspiracies is only going to get larger.
When McCain picked Palin, his campaign team thought the media would hail Palin as a fellow maverick, a moderate who could work with Democrats, and avoided polarizing social issues by, for example, vetoing a bill banning benefits for same-sex spouses of state workers. That is, Camp McCain expected the sort of in-depth look that Green provided in "The Tragedy of Sarah Palin."
They also thought that personal profiles would portray Palin as a pro-life Republican who walked the walk when she chose to give birth to a son with Down syndrome.
Alas and woe to her, Palin had the misfortune of walking onto the national stage in the era of the blogosphere. A Daily Kos blogger charged that Palin faked giving birth to Trig five months earlier in order to conceal her teenage daughter Bristol's pregnancy. Other bloggers, as well as British and Australian newspapers, joined the pile-on. That rumor was put to rest for all but the most ardent Palin "birthers" when Bristol turned out to be five months pregnant.
While most reputable American news outlets did not report the rumors, the Washington Post's Howard Kurtz wrote at the time that reporters deluged the campaign with questions "about the governor's amniotic fluid, the timing of her contractions and whether she would take a DNA test to establish the baby's parentage." Those questions enraged the McCainiacs.
It strikes me that if there is never a clear, contemporaneous public record of what transpired with Trig's birth that may actually ensure that the conspiracy theory never dies.
How in the Hell does one Publish Lies like this without being sued for millions?? Christ they would need a over sized mailbox for the daily flow of court papers.
birther, is about to be expropriated by folks as nutty as you are! And evil as well as deluded!
My mother was just under 5’, and weighed under 100 pounds. She never needed maternity clothes for any of her three pregnancies. I'm 5'7” and was bigger then Demi Moore. . .so in this case, “size doesn't matter”. . .!!
I really hope they push this. This will be the last straw with all the weight of evidence out there, and this will make everyone but the true believers turn on the attackers. There’s just some things that if you go after people on you better have it down pat or the blowback will kill you.
This is not humorous, and I see no reason to give it any more attention here at FR than it is already getting wherever it was published.
Who wrote this book? FR’s own now banned pissant? We have a neighbor who had a child with Downs syndrome in her mid 40s.
No. A bunch of Palin haters have been writing online “proofs” that Palin faked her pregnancy over the past year. Now they are going to put it in book form to use as a cash cow. There are lots of angry Palin haters who will buy this garbage.
It is horse shit if this BS is allowed bandwidth on FR.
RE: Who wrote this book?
Didn’t the article say it was a guy named Geoffrey Dunn?
Andrew Sullivan comes to mind.
It looks photoshopped to me.
According to the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, the chances of having a baby with Down syndrome increase with the age of the mother, many health care providers recommend that women over age 35 have prenatal testing for the condition.
I thought maybe. I hope experts look into that.
Liberal Democrats - The *ORIGINAL* birthers.
Nuttier than squirrel poo, and squirrellier than Gere poo.
They show more concern over a where a Down’s Syndrome baby came from ...
...than the democrat candidate who refuses to provide proof of his own birth, adoption records, and college records...
Me thinks it is time to shove the timber right on through their eye to be sure they realize it is there obscuring their vision!
The other “birthers.”
As crazy as it seems ...stuff like this makes me think of Israel and Revelations 12.
Where the woman gave birth to a male child, who would rule with an iron scepter and was snatched up to God ...away from the dragon and the woman sent to the protected place God prepared for her in the desert.
Their viciousness is just evil in my sight. Why does this child matter to them so much that even now they try to destroy his mother and him?
IIRC, these idiots, or some like them tried this back in the ‘08 elections. Sarah writes about it in Going Rogue. Her OB/GYN has already debunked this with a statement, and an affidavit that was entered into the record during the McCain run.
I’m not 100% sure of my details, and need to go back through the book for the exacts, but I am sure this has been dealt with, and publicly.
The other point of fact that destroys their assertion is this; Wouldn’t Bristol have performed some sort of miracle, having the 2 children so close together?
The thing that makes me want to beat the crap out of these people is the suggestion that Todd committed incest with his daughter. Todd is one of the most decent and gentle men I have ever heard about. He loves and cherishes his family above all else, and would protect them with his life. To imply, or out right accuse Todd of this, well let’s just say I wouldn’t want to be one of these people should she decide not to run. I have a feeling Todd will be paying them a visit, and it won’t be a social call.
I was just getting an extra smack at the Palin hating pissant.
I had to go into the hospital in Rome in 1977. Washington sent an old pal of mine over to cover for me. He brought his wife and kids over (on his dime). After I got out, I went to the hotel where they were staying. His wife, a beautiful Philadelphia woman, a former model, came down to the pool every day, wearing a bikini. She was seven months pregnant at the time and not a soul knew. ((The kid, BTW, is now a USNA grad.))
Does anyone else see the contradictory claims in this article?
My question is:
How could Sarah Palin be “faking” a pregnancy to claim parentage of Trig, if she didn’t look pregnant?
Their logic escapes me.
It’s not hard to see horizontally stretched fabric where vertical draping a blouse would be on a trim, non-pregnant woman.
where the vertical draping of a blouse
What you’re saying, Chris, is that there’s no honor among dweebs, yes?
Go to the second photo down on this thread. It is the enlarged area of Sarah's tummy. Click on that photo and it will go to a larger view of the photo. Hit your “Ctrl” button at the same time, scrolling your mouse wheel. It will change the enlargement of the photo. Enlarge to maximum value. Use the arrows to get to the area where the lapel meets with Sarah's dark blouse. You will see a fuzzy, pixtilated area in that area where the lapel meets with the blouse. Move up and down that area. You will see the pixtilated area get wider and abruptly get smaller. This is evidence of photo shopping my friend.
Is THAT quote from the article? Total nonsense. The cases are totally the opposite. Don't know any teens/young women that have had Down's Syndrome children. Know 3-4 women that had late-in-life babies with DS, even a case where one twin had Down's and the other did not.
Oh Lord this is hilarious.
I never want to hear a liberal talk about The Crazy in reference to right-wingers again.
Yeah - book suppositories affect my spine...
I still think Business Insider “articles” should be posted as blog entries, not news. This story just adds credence to that thought.
Meanwhile, the article pretty much gives the ultimate debunking of the stupid conspiracy. Bristol Palin WAS PREGNANT when Trig was born. Sorry, but there’s no way you can give birth to a kid while you are pregnant with a new kid. It is a scientific impossibility.
And apparently, whoever compared pictures is completely clueless as to the nature of pregnancy and how different body types carry babies in different ways. And also apparently clueless about all the stories about girls giving birth who nobody ever knew were pregnant, even after they give birth.
Why? how does her parentage of a child have anything to do with anything?
Maybe someone should ask Obama to prove his kids are his. After all, he actually IS president, and his kids are getting public housing and taxdollars paying for secret service — so there is MORE of a reason for Obama to “prove” that those kids are his.
But nobody will EVER ask him to prove his kids are his, because the whole idea is STUPID.
Now, if you find the statistics for Down’s children born to a 20-year-old, that might be relevant.
I didn’t know pissant had been banned. So I learned something here.
I see he got canned in a birther argument. Although he seems to have fallen on the sword of arguing to strongly for a rape exception for abortion, defending Allen West who was actually asking to move focus away from the birther arguments.
It’s a strange world. I never would have guessed pissant would get banned for an abortion argument.
Um, are you having reading comprehension problems? Bad case of the Mondays?
I wrote (in the post you responded to):
Maternal age influences the chances of conceiving a baby with Down syndrome. At maternal age 20 to 24, the probability is one in 1562
It's right there, in black and white. A 20 year old has a 1:1562 chance of conceiving a Down Syndrome baby.
There was absolutely no need for you to take an insulting tone. If you wanted a different piece of information, or clarification, you could have asked nicely.
I didn’t mean the tone to be insulting, I apologize for that.
But the remark stands. Your comment made the point that looking at probabilities didn’t tell the whole story.
You then said “Although the probability increases with maternal age, 80% of children with Down syndrome are born to women under the age of 35,”
What you need to make that point is what percentage of children with down syndrome are born to 20-year-old girls, NOT the percent of children born to 20-year-old girls who have downs syndrome. Although if we had the number of births to 20-year-old-girls, we could figure out the other thing.
My point was that, while it is more likely that a downs syndrome child was born to an under-35 mother than an over-35 mother, what we want to know is whether it was more likely a down syndrome child was born to a 20-year-old or a 40+ year-old.
It’s really your point, focused on the actual situation.
“One witness did see the live birth at a grassy knoll.”
He wasn’t one of those accidental deaths by karate chop to the neck, was he?
No, pissant got banned for making a lesbian remark about Sarah Palin.
That’s interesting. I didn’t even interpret his remark that way — I thought he was just bringing up that Tammy was her friend and the whole incident about whether Sarah supported Tammy’s tweet or not regarding DADT.
I guess my mind isn’t purile enough to get that without it being pointed out.
It’s funny since pissant was, for the most part, against Sarah because he was sure she was too liberal, as were most candidates.
Oh well, there go half the Duncan Hunter supporters. :-)
My fault, I dish out a lot of sarcasm myself and should have caught that.
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