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Escape from New York: Young Taxpayers Flee Economic Ruin
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | May 16, 2011 | Walter Hudson

Posted on 05/17/2011 6:33:31 AM PDT by Walter Scott Hudson

Young workers, the lifeblood of any economy, are set to flee New York in droves.

A new Marist College poll shows that 36% of New Yorkers under the age of 30 are planning to leave New York within the next five years - and more than a quarter of all adults are planning to bolt the Empire State.

The New York City suburbs, with their high property values and taxes, are leading the exodus, the poll found.

Of those preparing to leave, 62% cite economic reasons like cost of living, taxes - and a lack of jobs.

This should surprise no one. People work to provide for themselves and otherwise pursue happiness. When fiscal policies and regulation create an environment hostile to that objective, people are going to leave. That is, if they are allowed.

The ability to vote with your feet is an essential check on state and local government. But it requires maintaining a clearly defined federalism, with strict division of powers between each level of government. New Yorkers have somewhere to flee to, because the jurisdictions of state and local government are inherently limited. It should be obvious, but the point is often lost in our national policy debates.

Before Obamacare, Massachusetts had Romneycare. Minnesota has a number of state-run healthcare programs. Several states in the union have dabbled in various socialist ventures. Yet the national outcry against such policies, seen most prominently in the Tea Party, is a relatively recent development. Why? Because nationalizing such policies removes exodus as a viable protest of last resort, raising the stakes of debate and backing dissenters into a corner. You can move from Minnesota to Texas with relative ease. Relocating to another country is much more difficult.

That's a large part of the reason our political discourse is so polarized, because we've adopted a one-size-fits-all approach to public policy whereby minorities are railroaded by the national majority. Instead, we ought to return to the libertarian live-and-let-live approach which the Founders enabled through clearly divided power. Doing so will require bold statesmen in state and local government, willing to reject funds from on high when strings are attached.

There is no better guarantor of liberty than divided power. A national government which dictates the policies of each state cannot be held in check. States free to compete for the best and brightest, even if run by dyed-in-the-wool leftists, will eventually be forced to reverse course by the inevitable consequences of their horrible policies. To get business and young workers back, they will have to lower taxes, reduce regulation, and compete to become the freest and thus most attractive state in the union.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics
KEYWORDS: federalism; newyork; regulation; taxes

1 posted on 05/17/2011 6:33:41 AM PDT by Walter Scott Hudson
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Where else is there to go other than America?


2 posted on 05/17/2011 6:37:46 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Tell them Oklahoma is closed. We’ve already got more deadbeats, socialists, liberals and crimigrants than we can handle.


3 posted on 05/17/2011 6:38:10 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: BenKenobi
Where else is there to go other than America?

Well, Canada is more conservative than America now.

4 posted on 05/17/2011 6:41:26 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

“When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

(The smart left a long time ago.)”


5 posted on 05/17/2011 6:45:19 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: LouAvul

What about Conservatives?


6 posted on 05/17/2011 6:50:08 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
They should stay put.
In Leftist states like NY,tax revenue is irrelevant—the liberals are going to keep spending—they HAVE to buy votes.
So the plan has been all along for the red states to bail out the blue.
Red States,being fiscally responsible,will have to sacrifice in order to subsidize overspending blue ones—at least until ALL states collapse ala Cloward/Piven and Obama finally realizes his dream of being America's first Marxist Dictator—changing forever the nation he has hated all his life.
7 posted on 05/17/2011 6:50:12 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("I speak LOUD and I carry an even BIGGER stick! And I use it too-WHACK!!!"-candidate YS.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Canada has 100 percent socialized medicine coast to coast.

Whoever told you that is lying.

There is no other place to go. It’s America alone.


8 posted on 05/17/2011 6:50:52 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: panaxanax

Of course conservatives from New York are welcome. Both of them.


9 posted on 05/17/2011 6:56:40 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: BenKenobi

Like spores from a nasty weed, the offspring of liberals scatter into other states and ruin them with their social demands to be more like what the liberals ran away from

D’oh

happened to New Hampshire, Colorado

Florida, North Carolina, Arizona are on the way...maybe Texas too unless they build a moat around Austin


10 posted on 05/17/2011 6:57:50 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: LouAvul

Looks like those “liberals” in NY donate way more to Free Republic than you guys down in OK. What’s up with that?

New York #9
Oklahomo #39

https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/scoreboard


11 posted on 05/17/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Liberal idiot migration is killing us. They have flooded to NC over the past decade and damned if they haven’t brought their destructive voting habits with them. NC went blue in 2008, mostly because of yankee carpetbaggers.


12 posted on 05/17/2011 6:58:42 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
Hope they don't think they will find lower taxes in Connecticut or New Jersey!
They will be in for a very rude awakening upon their arrival to those nearby states.


13 posted on 05/17/2011 6:59:02 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: panaxanax

could be because there are about 6 times as many people in NY as Oklahoma? Just a guess.


14 posted on 05/17/2011 7:01:47 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: LouAvul
The U-Haul index which shows difference in renting a truck from one area to another has the cost of a 20 foot truck, about right size for a 3 bedroom apartment at from New York City to Tulsa OK $1001 and from Tulsa to New York $1668 which is a 67% premium for moving to NY opposed from NY. This is a pretty high premium even for this U-Haul index. This means more people moving your way, like the Mississippi, you just cant dam yankees enough either.
15 posted on 05/17/2011 7:04:30 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

re: willing to reject funds from on high when strings are attached

And thereby hangs the tale on which so much our national crisis is based! The feds are no better than drug dealers. They provide the product virtually free, get you you hooked and they have you by the soft parts.

There’s no better example than the school lunch program. Sixty years ago it was milk being provided free, or at very low cost. Milk, and butter. And then bit by bit the scope of the program, and the strings attached, was expanded. Now at least a dozen federal programs are tied to the lunch programs and the feds control a great deal of the local school system’s policies and programs. Fail to abide by the reams of rules and regs proscribed the feds and the system loses federal funds in all sorts of programs unrelated to feeding the kids.

And of course as the local money used for feeding the kids, or buying books, or whatever are freed up by federal programs they are diverted to other uses, until the local authorities have no choice but to go along.

In all likelihood we are beyond the point of no return.


16 posted on 05/17/2011 7:04:40 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: dblshot

Well, if they’re renting U-Haul, we won’t have to worry. They’ll never make it past Ohio.


17 posted on 05/17/2011 7:07:30 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

My sister, who has been asking for like forever when I will be moving back to NY, finally came to visit.

Afer enjoying the weather and scenery she was stunned to find out that the taxes on my property were about 1/4 of what she pays in NY. And that is with six times the land and four times the living space she has. Not to mention state taxes.

Now all she has to do is convince her husband.


18 posted on 05/17/2011 7:07:32 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It doesn’t matter the population. NY’ers are helping to keep FR alive more than OK. Facts, man, facts.

Maybe NY Conservatives are just smarter and therefore make more money?


19 posted on 05/17/2011 7:08:02 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: LouAvul

Soon the only ones left will be on Welfare or in the Government or MSM.


20 posted on 05/17/2011 7:12:28 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: panaxanax

Well I’m not from Oklahoma, so I’ll let them deal with the insults about NY conservatives being smarter than Oklahoma conservatives.

And I’m all for a little friendly competition to help raise funds. But to say that population is not a fact that matters when comparing states is, well, just, um — I’m not sure where to start. Every single thing to do with business, politics, money, fund raising, football attendance, advertising. almost everything — is hugely dependent on population and demographic realities.


21 posted on 05/17/2011 7:19:15 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: All

and just like illegal aliens, they take their stupid voting habits and sh!!!y lifestyles with them....


22 posted on 05/17/2011 7:22:56 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: silverleaf

Amen. In NC, New Yorkers have descended in droves and decimated what was once a great place to live. The first thing they do when they move down here- after loudly and obnoxiously badmouthing all Southerners and mocking the way we live and talk- is to get involved in the local governments and screw it up to match the hellhole they escaped from.

Of course they may just be mad because we only have biscuits instead of a good HAAAAAAAAAAAARD roll.


23 posted on 05/17/2011 7:47:44 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I love biscuits and gravy. Best breakfast ever invented.


24 posted on 05/17/2011 8:03:00 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: LouAvul

Here comes the usual dilemma. If too many flee where they head will become of great concern to those they head too. Thus some states won’t welcome new people Like Kansas, Oklahoma. Bad enough that Kansas was actually losing people because, this state is 50% empty so no job here either.


25 posted on 05/17/2011 10:00:45 AM PDT by Mozilla
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