Posted on 05/17/2011 1:30:40 PM PDT by stolinsky
Forgive me, Freepers, for I have sinned. My sins are many:
1. I linked to my own website, which is a sign of the arrogant belief that people might want to read what I write. Of course, if I didn't think that, I wouldn't write in the first place, so it's hard to see much difference.
2. I "stole bandwidth," though it's hard to see how posting a short exerpt with a link was worse than posting a long article--or how repeated insulting comments don't also "steal bandwidth."
3. I wanted people to "pay" me to be "showered with my wisdom," though my website has no advertising and costs me $299 a year to run, plus untold hours of time.
4. I used too many bullet points--or is it too few semicolons, I forget?
5. I claimed to have a graduate degree, though this couldn't be true, since I expressed myself plainly, in short paragraphs, and never used a $5 word when a two-bit word would do as well.
6. I claimed to have scars from a line-of-duty injury in the Army Reserve, though this couldn't be true either, since "people like me" usually avoid service.
7. Unlike my critics, I use my own name instead of a screen name, because I'm willing to stand up and be counted for what I say, and believe.
8. I assumed falsely that I was among friends, so any differences could be resolved amicably. Instead, I got more anger and vitriol than I ever got from liberals in the years I posted on NewsMax and on my own website. Yes, they occasionally called me "Nazi," but even the most fanatical never threatened violence or called me mentally ill--both of which are ways communists used to silence those who disagreed.
9. I assumed falsely that most conservatives are interested in saving our nation from leftists undermining it from within, and extremist Muslims attacking it from without. But instead, some are too busy squabbling among themselves about who doesn't really "fit in" with their small group--a sure recipe for defeat.
For all these sins, forgive me. My pennance will be to forgo blogging for a month. Perhaps that will be enough time for the anger to subside. Or not.
Absolvo te.
Something I figured out years ago about FR: Ignore the opinions and feelings of others. If you have an opinion, spout it without fear.
Wow. Those are some SERIOUS offenses.
I don’t know how you can LIVE with yourself...
;-)
My favorite.
Do you have a link? /s
IBTZ!?
You have run afoul of our local shill for the New York Times and such.
Some people feel threatened by the demise of the dinosaur media.
For many of the blog pimp haters there is only one way to be redeemed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN5TEP8FCUI&feature=related
After almost 10 years here I still want to know what those pricks think the “bloggers” section of FR is for? Because I don’t know, as it’s apparently not for, y’know BLOGGERS.
Don’t sweat it.
Ping
I would rather have “blog pimps”, as they call them, on FR than those who have nothing better to do than complain about them. At least they are attempting to contribute something to the discussion.
You must have been visited by humblegunner. Just tell him what I do ... “Good, you handle the little stuff like punctuation, spelling, and blogposts, and we’ll handle the rest...like ideas and thought.”
I'm not a blog pimp cop, but they do have a point. I've been on FR a little while, and value it highly; I consider it my "one stop shop" for current articles, commentary and criticism. A loooong time ago, nothing was excerpted until FR was taken to court and certain media sources demanded it, based on the premise that FR was depriving them of hits. Those of us around at the time accepted it as, "the way it had to be," but see no need for excerpting when the author is the one posting it on FR!
Similarly, I'm not one to attack another's grammar, vocabulary, spelling, etc., unless that person is making a point based on their presumed intellect and education.
If you're that confident in the quality of your writing, save yourself the $229, post your material as a vanity post (for free!!) and you'll get more commentary on here on your substance rather than your presentation.
As an analogy, you're swimming in somebody else's (Jim Rob's) pool here. Even if you're the world's greatest high diver and we'd all be impressed by your skills, the rules simply state, 'no diving'. Other than that, come on in...the water's fine.
I assumed falsely that most conservatives are interested in saving our nation from leftists undermining it from within, and extremist Muslims attacking it from without
Watch out. Saying stuff like that is asking for ZOT.
A reasoned response. As you now see, the blog-patrol has been summoned to this thread to hunt down their prey.
So, is it correct that a blogger can post a vanity thread in “news” that merely copy/pastes from his blog, but cannot post half a post and a link to his blog in the bloggers section?
I’m not being difficult, I’m merely curious.
It is for bloggers to post their content and then answer/discuss said content. The problems come when a blogger posts a short exerpt to drive hits to their blogs. If you are the original writer, there is no reason to post an exerpt. If the content that you post here on FR is good, people will follow the links back to your blog.
As you know, FR gets lots of traffic and blog pimps have been known to try to peel off even a small percentage to drive their own hit count.
Jim Robinson, owner of Free Republic, on Bloggers:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2636843/posts?q=1&;page=501#552
“I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.
If a blogger can’t or refuses do that, and if he constantly complains or fights with our participants over it, then I’d just as soon he doesn’t post here. It’s not my job to make his content or his presentation or cooperation acceptable to our readers. That’s his job. And if he cannot do it or refuses to do it and continues posting brief excerpts only and obviously attempting to draw away our participants while loudly complaining about it, then I have no sympathy for his complaints and the more apt I am to ban his account and blog.”
A word to the wise is generally sufficient. We don't want to drive good conservative thought off of FR. But we need to fight a recent surge of people using FR as a launching pad for click-through marketing attacks. This kind of abuse is unfair to our volunteer donors that keep FreeRepublic.com running.
Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
See post #22 and all will be answered :-)
"Believe it or not, once upon a time vanities were frowned upon by our participants. FR’s original format was established to not only fight for liberty and against government abuse/corruption, etc, but to criticize the liberally biased mainstream media. Therefore our original format was to post from valid NEWS sources and government reports, etc, and to tear them down where deserved. Vanity posters were shunned (unless they were very good).
Then a few years ago the blogger craze started. At first, most of them were treated simply as vanities and were pulled or zotted on sight. Eventually some were accepted as valid material on FR. And soon the blogger wars commenced. To allow blogs or not to allow blogs was the question. Can’t go blanket either way. Like it or not, some blogs are better than most others.
So, long story short, we created a special forum for blog posts. This was in lieu of simply deleting all blog posts. The theory was that as long as they were posted in the bloggers forum, those who didn’t wish to read them could simply click on the “news” forum and they wouldn’t see them. But, of course, as some blogs are definitely better than most others and some are much better than your typical mainstream news sources, we soon allowed certain blogs to be posted regularly to the news section.
This all worked more or less to a certain degree without too much friction until the non-commenting, short-excerpting, long-complaining blog pimp was born.
I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.
If a blogger can’t or refuses do that, and if he constantly complains or fights with our participants over it, then I’d just as soon he doesn’t post here. It’s not my job to make his content or his presentation or cooperation acceptable to our readers. That’s his job. And if he cannot do it or refuses to do it and continues posting brief excerpts only and obviously attempting to draw away our participants while loudly complaining about it, then I have no sympathy for his complaints and the more apt I am to ban his account and blog.
Furthermore, I’m not big on “rules.” You won’t see me posting rules for bloggers. The rules for bloggers on FR are the same as the rules for everyone else. If you are a good conservative activist and are willing to work with US on OUR goals and causes and not against US, then you’re welcome to post to FR. But unless we say otherwise your blog material should be posted to our bloggers forum and it would be best if you do not excerpt your own material and if you would actually join in on the discussion here on FR. We’re not really that interested in driving OUR traffic to YOUR blog. But if our readers see that you post useful information then they might start reading your site and that’s fine by me."
552 posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:06:19 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2636843/posts?q=1&;page=501
You beat me to it! lol.
Really? I tend to give standing to folks according to the content of their posts, not their length of membership. Never would it occur to me that I have 'standing' due to my sign-up date, which is originally even earlier than indicated by my home page.
Just a couple of days ago, a well-deserved zot was granted to someone with a sign-up date in '98 or '99. They are called 'sleepers', among other things.
Your screenname is not even one that I recognize, not that it means much ... I'm just sayin'.
I, for one, used to LIKE the fact that so many bloggers would post here on FR. It was a great place to find new, genuine, grassroots commentary. I don’t think having the board taken over by thugs who like to attack conservative bloggers is good for conservatism OR FR itself.
Mostly when a blogger DOES post something to FR these days, the thread gets nasty with the namecalling and lowbrow bullying comments.
I’d always thought it was a reasonable enough trade - bloggers post excerpts, which result in hits for them, while providing content for FR, who ultimately gets more hits from people coming to read posts by bloggers. That’s why I thought the “Bloggers and Personal” section was created.
Anyway, the net result that I have noticed is twofold. 1- the quality and uniqueness of the content on FR declines, as bloggers are chased off by the “anti-blog pimp” gang. The resulting content that gets posted more and more begins to resemble the sort of stuff I can read anywhere. And 2- as a result, people spend less time on FR.
Okay, thank you.
That makes sense then. I like the idea of “if people like what the blogger writes, people will then seek out the blog.” That’s fair.
Now, I have no idea of the OP’s history and if he’s an egregious excerpter, that’s one thing. But if not, c’mon, ease up.
Actually, for many bloggers, it does. Many bloggers have adds all over their blogs and get paid per the number of clicks they receive on their blogs.
Also, you can get a lot of cookies, trackers and adware by going to blogs.
Are all of these recent ‘apology’ threads due to little ol’ you? :-)
Does this hat make me look like a pimp?
GMTA. LOL!
Some here have no life so they are on a constant watch for a blogger to post something here so they can whine about it. It makes them feel impotent.
The blog police are coming to take you away, haha. They're coming to take you away, heehee...........
Oops. That’s ads, not adds. Sheesh...
Sweet!!! You finally learned how to post your thoughts here without excerpting! There is hope for all...
Write it and post it in both places. Cross link it too...
...the mysterious bots of the web will find it and you’ll earn more cred with the bots.
Lets face it. If you’re getting hits from fellow conservatives then you are preaching to the choir.
It is still a great place to find such commentary. What is being weeded out is crap. We make an effort to work with good conservatives to keep their good commentary HERE on the site. To do otherwise is foolish. But for those paying attention the scourge and plague of actual pimps is awful and dilutes the forum with awful stuff that we have to wade through.
You may notice that in this thread the negatives are coming from the anti-pimpbusters. The pimpbusters are here simply explaining how things generally work. It is all very civil. The pile-ons are reserved for jerks that give us a hard time, like Jim mentions in his post, re-posted above.
Good point.
If you pimp your blog 'round here, I'll lay your soul to waste.
We apologize for any butthurt you may have experienced.
It is within your power to prevent further butthurt.
linking to personal blogs does not offend me at all. Blog away and don’t let the cranky heads get you down.
Also, not everyone is amicable on FR as I’d like, either, but there are many who are so just interact with those of us who can disagree without screaming “RINO!” at those who disagree with us. Or worse :)
Oh, what the hell does Jim know?
He merely owns the place.
/s
POST or EXCERPT? The two are not the same, Grasshopper.
Lol.
Tone, JDB. My tone in that part of my post was facetious. As in life so on FR: merit accrues to virtue and accomplishment, not duration. So now back into my cave...
Your sins are exactly as follows....
Since 1/26/2009 you have posted 255 articles and only 64 replies.
All the replies you have made are to articles you have posted.
You have never contributed anything to the forum outside your own posts.
And no, I am not a member of the blog police, humble's taste in uniforms is atrocious.
See #47
Wow.
Cripes, now I’m thinking of asking where I can get my official badge.
that’s pretty pathetic.
Surely not.
But if JUST ONE PIMP is saved, it's worth the effort.
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