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Could Rand Paul and Ron Paul be Zionists?
The View From Masada Blog ^ | February 17, 2011 | Matityahu Ben-Yosef

Posted on 05/29/2011 11:37:51 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist

Could Rand Paul and Ron Paul be Zionists?
http://viewfrommasada.com/2011/02/17/ron-paul-rand-paul-zionists-of-the-year/
Posted on February 17, 2011 by Matityahu Ben-Yosef

While the Middle East has always been a volatile region, the last month has seen events unfold in the region whose global impact we still may not appreciate. From the fall of governments in Lebanon, Tunisia, and Egypt, and with other Middle East regimes to soon share their fate, the balance of power in the Middle East is changing before our eyes.

However, the most significant revolution taking place in the Middle East right now may not have anything to do with what’s unfolded in those countries mentioned above. In fact, the greatest potential revolution about to unfold in the Middle East has its home in Washington D.C., courtesy of Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY).

Seriously.

Earlier this month, Rand Paul called for an end to US “welfare” to Israel, saying:

There are many problems with Israel accepting foreign aid from the United States, most notably among that them being that a country can not be both independent and dependent at the same time. By accepting foreign aid from United States, or any country for that matter, Israel is giving up her freedom to implement policies without foreign interference. Additionally, as we have mentioned before, not only does accepting foreign aid limit Israel’s independence, but it also is simply not economically smart, as a recent study by the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars.

Rand Paul highlights two other problems with continued US foreign aid. to Israel. First, it is legitimate to ask whether or not the US can still afford the luxury of bestowing foreign aid – not just to Israel – but in general. While there are certainly benefits to the United States ‘giving of foreign aid, today it may be a luxury that the American people simply can no longer afford.

Second, historically one of the problems with welfare,is that often times those receiving it have no real incentive to ever get off of it.

Zionism, being the national liberation movement of the Jewish people, believes in a strong and free sovereign Jewish state; a state that lives within her means and earns whatever she has, through the industriousness and ingenuity of her citizens.

An article in Middle East Quarterly, entitled “End American Aid to Israel?: Yes, It Does Harm,” stated the following:

In an paper published by the Hoover Institute of Standford University, entitled “Why Aid to Israel Hurts . . . Israelis,” Alvin Rubashka stated the following:

Rep. Ron Paul went one step further than his son, calling on the United States to end all foreign aid to the Middle East. This past week, Paul sent a “Dear Colleague” letter to all members of the House of Representatives entitled, “Stop buying friends overseas, save $6 billion!”

Again, the motivation for this amendment has little to do with Israel, and much to do with the current state of the United States economy, but should such an amendment be accepted, it would greatly benefit Israel.

While the United States spares no opportunity to speak of its desire to see peace in the Middle East, particularly between Israel and her neighbors, it has consistently – for her own interests – armed both sides of the conflict. While Israel may be the US’s single largest recipient of military aid in the region, the amount of US military aid going to Israel’s neighbors makes the amount Israel receives pale in comparison. (This is in addition to the US training a Palestinian army under the leadership of US General Keith Dayton).

Lastly, and perhaps cynically, one must ask the question of what exactly does Israel receive in return for being a US ally? Being a US ally didn’t help those in power in Tunisia, Lebanon and Egypt, who were all quickly abandoned by the US when the going got tough. And, the US is strongly considering voting in favor of a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israel for allowing Jewish growth within her historic homeland.

With friends like these...

It’s time for Israel to act according to the wisdom of former French Premier, Charles DeGaulle, who said that, “Countries do not have friends, they have interests.”

Every country in the world understands this, and acts according to this principle. It’s time Israel does the same.

Israel’s leading business publication, Globes, has called for Israel to do the same:

None of this is to say that the United States and Israel shouldn’t be allies. To the contrary, Israel should seek to have positive relationships with every country in the world – relationships based upon mutual respect, benefit and interest. in instances where Israel and another country may not see eye to eye, each will be free to act according to their own interests.

Ron Paul and Rand Paul, through looking out for the best interests of the United States, may be providing one of the greatest contributions to Zionism in quite some time.

~~ Matityahu Ben Yosef is the Education Director of the Zionist Freedom Alliance


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Ron Paul Should be the Zionist Choice for US President -- Israel National News

"He's cool! He's a good guy. He's so independent the Party machine. I'm like, right on! You know that, so am I!" -- Governor Sarah Palin, discussing Ron Paul

1 posted on 05/29/2011 11:37:53 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist
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To: OldNewYork

Ping!


2 posted on 05/29/2011 11:38:25 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Yeah, Ron Paul is a Zionist. Also, black is white, up is down and Barack Obama is a capitalist.

If it’s so good for Zionism to cast Israel to the wolves, then why don’t Israel’s leaders advocate for that?

You must really think your readers are dumb.


3 posted on 05/29/2011 11:40:53 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Um, you just posted this a few minutes ago and the mod pulled it, saying that your were walking on thin ice by posting from crap sources.....

And you are posting it again?!?!?

IBTZ

4 posted on 05/29/2011 11:41:59 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Piranha
Yeah, Ron Paul is a Zionist. Also, black is white, up is down and Barack Obama is a capitalist. If it’s so good for Zionism to cast Israel to the wolves, then why don’t Israel’s leaders advocate for that? You must really think your readers are dumb.

Ron Paul agrees with Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, who has also called for an end to US Foreign Aid.

5 posted on 05/29/2011 11:42:35 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Oops, I think that was a different article about RP. Never mind.... sorry. :-)


6 posted on 05/29/2011 11:42:58 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Um, you just posted this a few minutes ago and the mod pulled it, saying that your were walking on thin ice by posting from crap sources..... And you are posting it again?!?!?

Nope. I posted an article showing how Anti-Semites hate Ron Paul, calling him a Zionist Shill.

This is an article about how Zionists (like me) are supporting Ron Paul.

New article entirely.

7 posted on 05/29/2011 11:44:03 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Oops, I think that was a different article about RP. Never mind.... sorry. :-)

That's cool. No harm, no foul.

8 posted on 05/29/2011 11:45:19 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Yeah, I noticed that after I posted that. Sorry. :-)


9 posted on 05/29/2011 11:45:24 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Your response doesn’t relate to the post you responded too...fyi.

Hey, I can believe that Ron Paul is a Zionist, as long as those damned Jooooooos aren’t involved. /sarc off


10 posted on 05/29/2011 11:46:06 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

If Netanyahu wanted to end US aid he would decline to accept it. He has negotiated the end to certain aid, but particularly in these times of the resurgence of the Islamic Brotherhood subverting the governments of all of Israel’s neighbors it would place Israel in imminent risk of destruction to pull away its military aid from the US.

If the Pauls see eye to eye with Netanyahu, then why didn’t either of them say so? Why was Rand Paul the only Senator to walk out when Netanyahu spoke to the joint session of Congress? They hate Israel. We all know that.

But thanks for playing.


11 posted on 05/29/2011 11:46:46 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: rbmillerjr
Hey, I can believe that Ron Paul is a Zionist, as long as those damned Jooooooos aren’t involved. /sarc off

Unsurprisingly, Anti-Semites do hate Ron Paul for his support of Israel.

12 posted on 05/29/2011 11:47:31 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Piranha
If Netanyahu wanted to end US aid he would decline to accept it.

Without the say-so of the US Congress, or the Israeli Knesset? You must think that the Israeli Prime Minister's powers are a bit more unilateral than they actually are.

But thanks for playing.

13 posted on 05/29/2011 11:49:02 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

14 posted on 05/29/2011 11:49:57 AM PDT by humblegunner (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

The US Congress would not force aid onto Israel if the Israeli government said it didn’t want it.

If Netanyahu didn’t want aid he would ask the Knesset to discuss whether it should be accepted. With 120 members from 13 parties in the Knesset and this crazy proposal never coming up for discussion, it should be obvious that your anti-Israel idea has no support within that country.


15 posted on 05/29/2011 11:52:50 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: humblegunner
Since we're doing pictures, here's the 2 Rons.










16 posted on 05/29/2011 11:53:18 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Christian_Capitalist

“Republican Jewish Coalition have issued a strong statement criticizing Ron Paul, the Texas congressman and newly announced contender for the GOP presidential nomination. Paul is scored for espousing “a dangerous isolationist vision for the U.S. and our role in the world” and for having been “a virulent and harsh critic of Israel during his tenure in Congress.” “

The Republican Jewish Coalition statement itemizes four specific statements and actions by Paul to back up its claim of hostility to Israel:

He “likened Israel’s defensive blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza to ‘a concentration camp’ “ (“Imus in the Morning” interview, 6/3/2010);

“proposed an amendment to unilaterally cancel U.S. assistance to Israel” (Politico, 2/16/11);

“was one of just 8 House members to vote against sanctions on Iran” (Govtrack.us rollcall report, 6/24/2010));

and he “published newsletters that included ‘rants against the Israeli lobby’” (CNN interview, 1/8/2008). The newsletters appeared in the 1990s between stints in Congress.


17 posted on 05/29/2011 11:55:06 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: truthfreedom
He's a kook.

His son is a geek training to be a kook.

18 posted on 05/29/2011 11:55:39 AM PDT by humblegunner (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: Piranha
it should be obvious that your anti-Israel idea has no support within that country.

Well, other than the Israel National News articles endorsing Ron Paul as the Zionist Choice for US President.

Hah, hah, hah.

19 posted on 05/29/2011 11:57:40 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: truthfreedom

How is Rand ever going to live that suit down now?


20 posted on 05/29/2011 11:59:46 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: truthfreedom

Nice photos.

Fortunately, the Goebbels use of them doesn’t sway people from the truth of his statements.

Ron Paul despised Reagan and his policies.


21 posted on 05/29/2011 12:06:39 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: All

“I want to totally disassociate myself from the Reagan Administration.” ....Ron Paul

The Dallas Morning News: “Paul now calls Reagan a `dramatic failure.’”....Ron Paul


22 posted on 05/29/2011 12:11:16 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: truthfreedom
You shouldn't put those pictures in a post concerning Israel - pictures of an anti-semite might offend our Jewish friends.

Reagan was anti-semitic, right? After all, he did broker the deal that let the PLO escape Beirut when the Israelis had them surrounded there back in '82. Even threatened Israel with harsh sanctions if they didn't agree to allow the murderers of countless Israelis to escape to Tunisia (in order to live and murder again).

I believe Congressman Ron Paul gave a very critical speech on the House floor at the time, condemning that deal. I think he had some crazy idea that the Israelis should have been allowed to exterminate the PLO, but luckily, cooler heads prevailed.

23 posted on 05/29/2011 12:17:31 PM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: rbmillerjr; truthfreedom
Ron Paul despised Reagan and his policies.

"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country!" -- Ronald Reagan

24 posted on 05/29/2011 12:26:13 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: rbmillerjr

You’re wasting your time. These clowns are morons and unworthy of the respect required to respond to them.


25 posted on 05/29/2011 12:28:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek
You’re wasting your time. These clowns are morons and unworthy of the respect required to respond to them.

Yup. You're getting thrashed, your favorite "Play The Race Card" weapons are being taken away from you, you know it, and we're enjoying it.

Hah, hah, hah.

26 posted on 05/29/2011 12:30:50 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; rbmillerjr; truthfreedom
Reagan's 11th commandment:

"Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican."

Too bad dipwad lunatic Paul doesn't have the same class.

27 posted on 05/29/2011 12:31:04 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

You mean back in November 2007 before people understood the kind of anti-Semite that he is?


28 posted on 05/29/2011 12:31:25 PM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Piranha
You mean back in November 2007 before people understood the kind of anti-Semite that he is?

Sorry, but the Zionist Freedom Alliance (article from 2011) has impeccable Pro-Israel and Pro-Capitalist credentials.

Of course, since the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars, your support for Socialistic Foreign Aid means that you are directly supporting the destruction of the Israeli Economy. So, I guess it's unsurprising that you agree with the Anti-Semites who hate Ron Paul -- while disagreeing with Sarah Palin, the Zionist Freedom Alliance, and the Israel National News in their SUPPORT for Ron Paul.

29 posted on 05/29/2011 12:35:59 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
"Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." Too bad dipwad lunatic Paul doesn't have the same class.

Except that the one bashing fellow Republicans, and showing a lack of class, is you.

30 posted on 05/29/2011 12:37:17 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The loss of class is a symptom of perpetual candidate’s disease.


31 posted on 05/29/2011 12:38:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: rbmillerjr

Ron Paul despised deficit spending and massive debt.


32 posted on 05/29/2011 12:40:50 PM PDT by Brett11
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To: Christian_Capitalist

You are moving the goalposts. You mentioned the signed op-ed editorial by a single writer back in 2007 that was published on Israel National News, and after I discredited your claim that this indicates that Israel National News endorses him as President you tried to change the focus to the Zionist Freedom Alliance.

Nice try.


33 posted on 05/29/2011 12:41:30 PM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Does Ron Paul pay you to pimp him here?


34 posted on 05/29/2011 12:44:17 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Except that the one bashing fellow Republicans, and showing a lack of class, is you.

I'm not a politician or a pundit flame bait paultard.

When your boy can get over the 3% hump, be sure to let us all know.

35 posted on 05/29/2011 12:44:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Piranha
You are moving the goalposts. You mentioned the signed op-ed editorial by a single writer back in 2007 that was published on Israel National News, and after I discredited your claim that this indicates that Israel National News endorses him as President you tried to change the focus to the Zionist Freedom Alliance. Nice try.

You claimed that Ron Paul had no support within Israel.

As noted, that's entirely false:

Of course, since the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars, your support for Socialistic Foreign Aid means that you are directly supporting the destruction of the Israeli Economy. So, I guess it's unsurprising that you agree with the Anti-Semites who hate Ron Paul -- while disagreeing with Sarah Palin, the Zionist Freedom Alliance, and the Israel National News in their SUPPORT for Ron Paul.

36 posted on 05/29/2011 12:45:59 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: cripplecreek
AKA foaming at the mouth desperation.
37 posted on 05/29/2011 12:46:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I'm not a politician or a pundit flame bait paultard. When your boy can get over the 3% hump, be sure to let us all know.

Guess which Republican polls best against Obama? Ron Paul.

38 posted on 05/29/2011 12:47:33 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Does Ron Paul pay you to pimp him here?

LOL. It must grate on you that that's the BEST response you can come up with.

Of course, since the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars, your support for Socialistic Foreign Aid means that you are directly supporting the destruction of the Israeli Economy. So, I guess it's unsurprising that you agree with the Anti-Semites who hate Ron Paul -- while disagreeing with Sarah Palin, the Zionist Freedom Alliance, and the Israel National News in their SUPPORT for Ron Paul.

39 posted on 05/29/2011 12:49:27 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The sad thing is that I have more respect for Ron Paul himself than I have for some of the psychotics who claim to support him.

Honestly, I suspect that the most rabid ones are little more than trolls trying to hurt Zero Chance Paul.


40 posted on 05/29/2011 12:49:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Brett11
Ron Paul despised deficit spending and massive debt.

BBBBWWWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, riiiight:

http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=ron+paul+and+pork&cp=15&qe=cm9uIHBhdWwgYW5kIHBv&qesig=p5RZrf7OPkSHVgMaeaqiwg&pkc=AFgZ2tnvmVA6-j3Wv_2Kqymjk4j-kOQJsswAA_7usT8tsEkmTC1hTux8I5vWitEdbzs9roz1d2hUcR854FixayOjwIE0ZtCZIw&pf=p&sclient=psy&safe=off&rlz=1R2GPEA_en&site=webhp&source=hp&aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=ron+paul+and+po&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=3ab7b119eb13be61&biw=1659&bih=833

Ignorance is bliss they say.....meet your pork queen.

41 posted on 05/29/2011 12:52:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: cripplecreek
I agree with you....Paul has a lot of good things to offer and say sometimes, unfortunately it is all completely offset by his being a lunatic in all of the other areas.

LOL, his supporters...that's a whole 'nother thread.

42 posted on 05/29/2011 12:56:44 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: cripplecreek
The sad thing is that I have more respect for Ron Paul himself than I have for some of the psychotics who claim to support him. Honestly, I suspect that the most rabid ones are little more than trolls trying to hurt Zero Chance Paul.

When obsessive, monomaniacal hatred doesn't work for you, you switch tactics to "concern trolling".

Laughable and transparent.

Of course, since the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars, your support for Socialistic Foreign Aid means that you are directly supporting the destruction of the Israeli Economy. So, I guess it's unsurprising that you agree with the Anti-Semites who hate Ron Paul -- while disagreeing with Sarah Palin, the Zionist Freedom Alliance, and the Israel National News in their SUPPORT for Ron Paul.

43 posted on 05/29/2011 12:57:30 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

They sure get their panties knotted up tight if you don’t talk to them. LOL


44 posted on 05/29/2011 1:00:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Christian_Capitalist

45 posted on 05/29/2011 1:03:10 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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How amusing that none of Ron Paul's attackers can actually justify their support for Socialistic Foreign Aid, and its proven harm to the Israeli Economy. Hmmm....
46 posted on 05/29/2011 1:03:10 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; cripplecreek

You should chang your screen name to Christian_Top because all you do is spin.


47 posted on 05/29/2011 1:03:59 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I don’t agree with him on that issue, but earmarks make up an entire 1% of the budget. His argument is that the executive branch would be in charge of earmarks if Congress didn’t do it.


48 posted on 05/29/2011 1:04:32 PM PDT by Brett11
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To: Christian_Capitalist
You really are a flame thrower aren't you? Paul is not supported here because he's a lunatic and you try to spin it that if you don't support him you're anti Semitic and socialist.

Gee, I wonder why you can't get over 3%....and 2.9% of that is dope smoking long haired FM types.

Yeesh, get a clue.

49 posted on 05/29/2011 1:08:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Brett11
BS, you just keep on convincing yourself of that.

Man does he have you people hoodwinked.

50 posted on 05/29/2011 1:11:22 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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