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Could Rand Paul and Ron Paul be Zionists?
The View From Masada Blog ^ | February 17, 2011 | Matityahu Ben-Yosef

Posted on 05/29/2011 11:37:51 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist

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To: Christian_Capitalist

It is one thing to argue that Israel should strive for financial independence. It is quite another to say that people who advocate for that position (including the late Meir Kahane, who was murdered 20 years ago), are supporters of Ron and Rand Paul, who would immediately strip Israel’s protections and throw it to the wolves.

You’re not fooling anybody.


51 posted on 05/29/2011 1:13:47 PM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Paul is not supported here because he's a lunatic and you try to spin it that if you don't support him you're anti Semitic and socialist.

Awww.... so sad, that your favorite "Play The Race Card" weapons against Ron Paul, are now being turned against you?

Hah, hah, hah.

52 posted on 05/29/2011 1:14:14 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
You're delusional if you believe that.....oh wait, yer a paultard, never mind.
53 posted on 05/29/2011 1:14:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m not necessarily even going to vote for him for President, as I may support either Bachmann, Palin, or Cain as well. But I have a lot of respect for anybody who supports Constitutionally limited government, and Ron has defended the Constitution for years in the house.


54 posted on 05/29/2011 1:15:03 PM PDT by Brett11
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Awww.... so sad, that your favorite "Play The Race Card" weapons against Ron Paul, are now being turned against you?

Dude, put down the bong....you really jumped the shark on that one.

See ya.

55 posted on 05/29/2011 1:16:57 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Piranha

We could still sell weapons to Israel even if we weren’t giving them foreign aid. Both Ron and Rand support selling weapons to Israel. Israel wouldn’t be “thrown to the wolves” if they didn’t receive U.S taxpayer money.


56 posted on 05/29/2011 1:17:43 PM PDT by Brett11
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To: Piranha
Ron and Rand Paul, who would immediately strip Israel’s protections and throw it to the wolves.

By supporting Socialistic Foreign Aid, when the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars of GDP, it is YOU who favors throwing Israel to the wolves. You are directly advocating harm to the Israeli Economy.

57 posted on 05/29/2011 1:17:47 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Brett11
I don’t agree with him on that issue...

You might want to re-think your disagreement. You do know that the "pork" money in question is already allocated in a federal budget that has been passed by both houses of congress (with a no vote from Dr. Paul), and has been signed into law by the president (or by obama if it's a recent spending bill).

The money IS going to be spent - either on what it was earmarked for, or it goes into a general fund (obama's stash).

The earmarks that Dr. Paul gets condemned here for are nothing but funding requests from his constituents that he passes on to a congressional budget committee.

58 posted on 05/29/2011 1:18:33 PM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

LOL. All your attacks failed miserably, so run along.


59 posted on 05/29/2011 1:18:54 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Brett11

See my #42 on this thread...that’s all I have to say.

I hope you enjoy your weekend.


60 posted on 05/29/2011 1:19:03 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
LOL, you're a riot...a long haired hippy white boy pulling the race card to defend a retarded tunnel vision lunatic......and you think you're winning...you need help!
61 posted on 05/29/2011 1:22:04 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
LOL, you're a riot...a long haired hippy white boy pulling the race card to defend a retarded tunnel vision lunatic......and you think you're winning...you need help!

Shucks, I thought you were tucking your tail between your legs and running away.

Well, I tell you what: Given that the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars of GDP, please tell us just WHY you advocate directly harming the Israeli Economy? What's your motivation for wanting to see the Jewish Nation economically damaged, LV Ron?

Hmm??

62 posted on 05/29/2011 1:25:49 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE

Yeah, but my position is simply that neither Congress nor the executive branch should earmark. Why not just abolish them for both branches of government. The Constitution doesn’t authorize pet projects within an individual state. That doesn’t involve regulating commerce among the states.


63 posted on 05/29/2011 1:26:59 PM PDT by Brett11
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Shucks, I thought you were tucking your tail between your legs and running away.

LOL, from you?

Yep, yer delusional.....take yer spin somewhere else.

64 posted on 05/29/2011 1:32:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Shucks, I thought you were tucking your tail between your legs and running away. ~~ LOL, from you? Yep, yer delusional.....take yer spin somewhere else.

Well, I tell you what: Given that the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars of GDP, please tell us just WHY you advocate directly harming the Israeli Economy? What's your motivation for wanting to see the Jewish Nation economically damaged, LV Ron?

Hmm??


65 posted on 05/29/2011 1:37:02 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Told you yesterday, I don’t play spin games.

I’d give you the link but your stupid thread got pulled by the mods ;)


66 posted on 05/29/2011 2:21:31 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Told you yesterday, I don’t play spin games. I’d give you the link but your stupid thread got pulled by the mods ;)

Well, why don't you go ahead and explain yourself now, then: Given that the Jerusalem Institute for Market Studies has shown that every dollar of US Aid costs Israel up to 1.4 dollars of GDP, please tell us just WHY you advocate directly harming the Israeli Economy? What's your motivation for wanting to see the Jewish Nation economically damaged, LV Ron?

Hmm??


67 posted on 05/29/2011 2:25:36 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; Admin Moderator
Look paultard, I won't play your spin games....get lost.

My disdain for Paul has nothing to do with what you're trying to bait me or other FReepers into, I have expressed no opinions on the subject you put forth.

68 posted on 05/29/2011 2:40:30 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Keep it up stupid, the kitties are approaching.


70 posted on 05/29/2011 2:48:09 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Muah ha ha ha ha

Looks like Christian Capitalist has gone to meet his maker.


71 posted on 05/29/2011 2:51:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Admin Moderator; 50mm; darkwing104; cripplecreek; F15Eagle
Bless you and thank you!
72 posted on 05/29/2011 2:53:52 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: cripplecreek

YYYYEEEEEEESSSS!

Dang, you’re quick FRiend!


73 posted on 05/29/2011 2:55:22 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
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74 posted on 05/29/2011 2:56:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

LOL....them is some smokin boots!

You were on it before I could even get the news out!


75 posted on 05/29/2011 2:58:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m just guessing but I suspect reposting the same crap that was removed last night was the final straw.


76 posted on 05/29/2011 3:00:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Ah man, you’re taking the wind out of my sails.....doesn’t matter, another tard bought the dust!


77 posted on 05/29/2011 3:07:24 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Some of Ron Paul’s supporters hate Israel and were attracted to him because he wants to pull the US out of international policing and the bad habit of buying friends via foreign policy. They look at that as aggression against Israel. He wants the US to disentangle itself from foreign knots, favors and dictates because he sees it as undermining the economic and social viability of our Nation and our constitutional freedom.

However, he is also against the US strong arming Israel to buckle under to the demands this global dictator wannabe Muslim in the White Hut. Some of his supporters don’t like that side of the international neutrality that is Ron Paul’s (and the founder’s) ideology.

He used to be for US sovergnity (as were our founders), however now he’s a global open border’s wacko and is all for a foreign invasion of our country. So...he’s only supports some of the constitutional government established by our founders these days. I guess he is buying foreign votes? Which makes him a...liar.


78 posted on 05/29/2011 3:25:07 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Christian_Capitalist

good one


79 posted on 05/29/2011 3:36:44 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE

I put real pix of the 2 Rons up for a number of reasons, usually when I see fake pix.

When someone else comes up with a silly fake Ron Paul pic, I come up with Ron Paul supporting Ron Reagan in 1976 when so many others were supporting Ford.


80 posted on 05/29/2011 3:39:21 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: OldNewYork

it was the 70’s, what can I say. Rand looks like a teenager there.


81 posted on 05/29/2011 3:40:52 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
good one>p>Yep, good enough to get the zot!
82 posted on 05/29/2011 3:47:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
Your paultard buddy got the zot.......
83 posted on 05/29/2011 3:48:52 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: truthfreedom
I come up with Ron Paul supporting Ron Reagan in 1976 when so many others were supporting Ford.

Yeah, I'll bet you do...will you also post pics of Rumsfeld shaking Sadam Hussein's hand to make your point?

Goebbels ring a bell?

84 posted on 05/29/2011 3:54:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’ve been out in the sun playing baseball with my kids today...perhaps I’m wrong....

But doesn’t Ron Paul love to grease up with pork on EARMARKS !??

I’m sure the Paultards have an excuse and perfect explanation for that.


85 posted on 05/29/2011 4:01:09 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’ve been out in the sun playing baseball with my kids today...perhaps I’m wrong....

But doesn’t Ron Paul love to grease up with pork on EARMARKS !??

I’m sure the Paultards have an excuse and perfect explanation for that.


86 posted on 05/29/2011 4:01:35 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: truthfreedom

It’s frightening to imagine what kind of bell-bottoms the suit trousers featured.


87 posted on 05/29/2011 4:03:16 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: rbmillerjr

Yes he does....the op paultard got the zot!


88 posted on 05/29/2011 4:07:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m not a fan of economic aid to anyone but in the case of Israel its very much a means of defense against the constant state of economic warfare they face from all over. Plus, the payoff is pretty big. We get intel, technology, access to military airfields if needed etc.

Our supply lines in the mideast are slowly being pinched due to obama’s support of an increasingly radical mideast. We need Israel’s support there just as surely as they need our support.

When Bibi spoke to congress last week, it wasn’t to tell us to leave them alone. It was to ask for our continued support.

America has a choice. We will either look the other way as the Israelis are loaded on to the train cars or we’ll stand with them and confront an enemy. Our survival depends on their survival. If we look the other way, we’ve become 1930s europe.


89 posted on 05/29/2011 4:08:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: OldNewYork
It’s frightening to imagine what kind of bell-bottoms the suit trousers featured.

Especially when the tingle of viking Kittie lightning is traveling up your leg!

90 posted on 05/29/2011 4:10:44 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Is it really a victory if you can’t celebrate it gracefully?


91 posted on 05/29/2011 4:13:39 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I respond to Fake Pictures with Real Pictures.

Godwin’s law ring a bell?


92 posted on 05/29/2011 4:18:33 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: rbmillerjr

Earmarks are spending, right? Or are they different from spending? Because I know that Ron Paul doesn’t vote for spending. These earmarks are somewhat different.

Since you make the point to put earmarks in all caps, you must know what they are, and this is your opportunity to explain earmarks and how they’re the same as spending or different from spending.


93 posted on 05/29/2011 4:23:15 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: OldNewYork
Is it really a victory if you can’t celebrate it gracefully?

There is no grace in defeat, only glory in victory!

LVR, FR 5-29-2011

Feel free to quote me.

94 posted on 05/29/2011 4:23:27 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: truthfreedom

Perhaps you should read what Godwins law is before you invoke it, eh?


95 posted on 05/29/2011 4:24:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism... a hyphenated American is not an American at all. This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance. But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else. The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic. The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else. For an American citizen to vote as a German-American, an Irish-American, or an English-American, is to be a traitor to American institutions; and those hyphenated Americans who terrorize American politicians by threats of the foreign vote are engaged in treason to the American Republic”


96 posted on 05/29/2011 4:26:56 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork
WTF are you even talking about?

You must have me confused with someone else....

97 posted on 05/29/2011 4:28:28 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE

“You might want to re-think your disagreement. You do know that the “pork” money in question is already allocated in a federal budget that has been passed by both houses of congress (with a no vote from Dr. Paul), and has been signed into law by the president (or by obama if it’s a recent spending bill).”

What a cowardly position...Paul puts in Pork through earmarks, then votes against the bill, knowing it will pass.

Conservatives are on to his phoney ass. That claptrap doesn’t fly on FR.


98 posted on 05/29/2011 4:28:38 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: OldNewYork
Maybe I misunderstood your point....please clarify.
99 posted on 05/29/2011 4:29:48 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“WTF are you even talking about?

You must have me confused with someone else.... “

You don’t recognize that? It’s the first quote on your profile here.


100 posted on 05/29/2011 4:30:18 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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