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Obama’s ineligibility: Prepare for the fall
Canada Free Press ^ | May 30, 2011 | Lawrence Sellin

Posted on 05/30/2011 7:40:28 AM PDT by Ordinary_American

The United States is in a Constitutional and political crisis without precedent.

What can ordinary Americans do when a large number of politicians are corrupt and an even larger portion of the national political leadership is complicit in a cover-up of that corruption?

Do we petition those leaders to investigate and punish themselves?

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The evident bewilderment displayed by Will is prima facie evidence of the depth of denial now prevalent in Washington, D.C.

It is an equivalent to writing an article after the Pearl Harbor attack entitled “The Japanese might not like us.”

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Having been born in Panama and not eligible to run for the Presidency, McCain obviously doesn’t recognize the Constitution either.

For me, the uncertainty about McCain’s ineligibility was resolved by the bogus, non-binding Senate Resolution 511, co-sponsored by Obama, which declared McCain a “natural born citizen” and, therefore, eligible for the Presidency.

The fact that Congress has no authority to do such a thing was apparently completely irrelevant to that majestic body. Maybe I’m a cynic, but it sounds to me like just another crooked, backroom deal.

If McCain and Obama both didn’t need the “cover”, why go through that elaborate Senate charade?

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KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; bho2012; birthers; certifigate; constitution; coup; ctsocialsecurity; eligibility; foreignstudentaid; identityfraud; may2011; naturalborncitizen; nwo; obama; perjury; soros; usurper
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To: Ordinary_American

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101 posted on 05/30/2011 1:26:16 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (.WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
"John Sidney McCain III was born on August 29, 1936, at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, the second of three children born to naval officer John S. McCain Jr. and his wife, Roberta. At the time of his birth, the McCain family was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone, under American control."

That is good enough to be a natural born citizen.
Sorry to bring bad news to you on Memorial Day.

102 posted on 05/30/2011 1:29:24 PM PDT by DeaconRed (Everything I need to know in life, I learned in Kindergarten. . . .)
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To: ASA Vet

Vattel had nothing to do with US law on citizenship. Multiple courts cases have repeatedly said we look to English common law to define the terms used in the Constitution, not some swiss guy.

“In Smith v. Alabama, Mr. Justice Matthews, delivering the judgment of the court, said:

There is no common law of the United States, in the sense of a national customary law, distinct from the common law of England as adopted by the several States each for itself, applied as its local law, and subject to such alteration as may be provided by its own statutes. . . . There is, however, one clear exception to the statement that there is no national common law. The interpretation of the Constitution of the United States is necessarily influenced by the fact that its provisions are framed in the language of the English common law, and are to be read in the light of its history.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html


103 posted on 05/30/2011 1:35:43 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: oust the louse
Otherwise, left with no alternatives, open dissent will grow and chaos will ensue.

That, it now appears, is their plan B poison pill. Always has been the fallback. Class warfare is their stock and trade, brought to mainstream by the community agitator, a man with no history, bought and paid for in advance.

104 posted on 05/30/2011 1:41:58 PM PDT by glock rocks (Crouch as low as possible to the floor and cover your head with your hands.)
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To: Voter#537

This is new to my files. I have it that McCain was born in a Panama hospital. If you have the info I would like to know the name of the ship.


105 posted on 05/30/2011 1:52:34 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Ordinary_American
Birthers remind me of the kooks he keep predicting the end of the world.

They keep promising that the birther issue will bring Obama down any day now, in spite of the fact that no one in any position of power cares.

How much contrary evidence will it take before you realize your quest is as futile as that of the guy who's predicting the word will end in October?

106 posted on 05/30/2011 2:07:04 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Ordinary_American

sfl


107 posted on 05/30/2011 2:08:24 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: noinfringers2
"John Sidney McCain III was born on August 29, 1936, at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, the second of three children born to naval officer John S. McCain Jr. and his wife, Roberta. At the time of his birth, the McCain family was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone, under American control."

I don't like John McCain. That being said he was eligible to be president. He was born while his father served our country. That is all that needs to be said.

108 posted on 05/30/2011 2:10:27 PM PDT by DeaconRed (Everything I need to know in life, I learned in Kindergarten. . . .)
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To: ilovesarah2012
According to his BC, he was born in Colon Hospital in Panama.

Sigh. Not another reference to the fake McCain BC that's floating around on the internet.

FYI, McCain was not born in Colon. He was born on the Coco Solo naval base within the canal zone. The Colon BC you are referring to is a forgery that was submitted into evidence in a lawsuit seeking to bar McCain from the ballot during the GOP primary seaons.

109 posted on 05/30/2011 2:10:50 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Voter#537

That statement is a lie which he put in his book.

Educate yourself.

Here is a copy of McCains Certificate of Birth:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9934044/John-McCain-Birth-Certificate

In the upper left corner it reads he was born in “Colon, R. of P.” Notice it does not say Coco Solo, Canal Zone.

In the upper right corner, it reads he was born in “Colon Hospital” and not some non existing hospital in Coco Solo.

It can’t get clearer than this.


110 posted on 05/30/2011 2:11:25 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Flag_This

Yeah, who cares what the Constitutional intent was!

Feeeeelings are what matter. And who somebody’s grandfather was!


111 posted on 05/30/2011 2:13:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Flag_This

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2727177/posts

Much info on NBC meaning.


112 posted on 05/30/2011 2:13:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: curiosity

Your reply makes no sense whatsoever. If I take a job at Motorola without qualifying they can fire me at any time. Bringing a world is doomed argument into this shows that you have a problem with analogy’s.


113 posted on 05/30/2011 2:16:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: pepperdog

There is a difference between a ‘citizen’ and a ‘natural born citizen’. This difference goes all the way back to the writing/adoption of the Constitution. The difference is explicit in the requirement for Representatives and Senators to be ‘citizens’ but the requirement for POTUSA to be a ‘ natural born citizen’. The Founding Fathers were well aware/versed of the difference and why it should be. As to the Senate resolution I think it was a smoke screen to allow a possible challenge to a McCain election and it never was a lawful declaration. There are many of us under various parents and native soil heritage who do not meet the requirement of ‘natural born’ and just have to accept the blessing of citizenship like my brother who was killed in the battle of Okinawa and myself who was just days away from an invasion of Japan.


114 posted on 05/30/2011 2:16:45 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: bagman

If we disregard the Constitution then something is wrong.

And since the Constitution is already sickeningly disregarded, something has been very wrong for a long time and getting worse.


115 posted on 05/30/2011 2:24:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Here is a copy of McCains Certificate of Birth:

The only way that would be more obviously fake is if it were done in crayon. It amazes me you would even present that as authentic.

116 posted on 05/30/2011 2:44:20 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Fantasywriter
DC = Corruption. Period.

There is no update to Issa's investigations. Millions of stimulus money went to fake zip codes. That is stealing, no out rage from congress. FED foreign bailouts, Gun walker? Nothing. It really seems like one corrupt group.

The tea party and Palin threaten the corrupt system.

117 posted on 05/30/2011 2:46:20 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Voter#537

I disagree. See my post to pepperdog. I will argue further that it is the seemingly innocuous justifications apart from the explicit words of the Constitution that allows Obama to slip by into POTUSA. I mean no disparaging of the service of veterans, being one myself, but I do believe our Constitution is slipping away from us bit by bit by transformations.


118 posted on 05/30/2011 2:59:00 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: ExTexasRedhead

The Republican Party will join with the Democrats to block any investigation of Obama. They are all afraid to screw up their own careers.


119 posted on 05/30/2011 3:06:13 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Mr Rogers
Obfuscation, as you already know. Just for starters, we are not subjects to a King. Why are you so anxious to discount the Constitution and the unique form of government it framed for Americans?
120 posted on 05/30/2011 3:18:35 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: opentalk

“The tea party and Palin threaten the corrupt system.”

That’s it in a nutshell. I thought after ‘10 the DC Old Guard would at least pretend they got the message, but they haven’t. Now it all hinges on ‘12. Somebody like Palin, who beat corrupt Alaskan GOPers like red-headed stepchildren, scares them witless. We just have to hope and pray we get a gung-ho conservative running in ‘12—and one way or another, we HAVE to win.


121 posted on 05/30/2011 3:23:46 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Kleon

Then YOU show us a copy of his “non” fake certificate of birth since you know so much about it.


122 posted on 05/30/2011 3:31:13 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Ordinary_American; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; LucyT; Polarik

The Congressional Research Service finds Soetoro inelligible.

May 30th, 2011:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/29/bombshell-second-crs-memo-covering-for-obamas-ineligibility-not-released-to-the-public-until-now/

Discussion ensues:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2727177/posts


123 posted on 05/30/2011 3:38:39 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Then YOU show us a copy of his “non” fake certificate of birth since you know so much about it.

Senator McCain hasn't made his birth certificate available to the public.

124 posted on 05/30/2011 3:43:23 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Candor7
The Congressional Research Service finds Soetoro inelligible.

Wait, didn't they say the complete opposite?

125 posted on 05/30/2011 3:47:00 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Louis Foxwell

He does, of course. He was just making a point that he would do more than just stand behind a pulpit and talk about it.

How many pastors do you think today would actually pick up a rifle like the original members of the Black Robe Regiment?


126 posted on 05/30/2011 3:54:39 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: Kleon
Wait, didn't they say the complete opposite? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Of course, but it was all unsupported, made up of whole cloth.Resulting conclusion was the opposite intended. They found him inelligible and covered.

127 posted on 05/30/2011 4:00:11 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: MileHi
Why are you so anxious to discount the Constitution

Because he's a deliberately ignorant after-birther. Pay no attention to him.

128 posted on 05/30/2011 4:12:31 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: pepperdog; Voter#537

Wow. Just wow.

Many folks born in the Panama Canal Zone know that they are U.S. citizens because their parents are U.S. citizens. They are not, however, eligible for the Presidency BECAUSE the Canal Zone was never U.S. sovereign territory. Born in the Canal Zone meant born in Panama.

We leased and managed the Canal Zone while Panama never released sovereignty over their own land. We no longer have the lease.

Natural born citizen IS NOT a statutory type of citizenship. It is only an eligibility requirement per Article II of the U.S. Constitution.

There are three types of citizenship recognized by the U.S. government.

1) Native born - born within the United States.

2) Derived citizenship - born overseas to U.S. citizens.

3) Naturalized - foreign born citizen naturalized as U.S. citizen.

See the following:

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD


129 posted on 05/30/2011 4:23:51 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: MileHi

Why are you so anxious to follow Swiss law instead of American or English? And if you would actually READ cases from the late 1700s & 1800s, you will find subject and citizen still being freely mixed, although the laws of the colonies turned states replaced subject with citizen, while otherwise remaining unchanged.

So did natural born citizen come from the laws of the new states, that replaced that phrase with natural born citizen? Or did it come from a translation of Vattel made 10 years after the Constitution was written?

“It is an established maxim, received by all political writers, that every person owes a natural allegiance to the government of that country in which he is born. Allegiance is defined to be a tie, that binds the subject to the state, and in consequence of his obedience, he is entitled to protection… The children of aliens, born in this state, are considered as natural born subjects, and have the same rights with the rest of the citizens.”

Zephaniah Swift, A system of the laws of the state of Connecticut (1795)

“that a man born within the jurisdiction of the common law is a citizen of the country wherein he is born. By this circumstance of his birth, he is subjected to the duty of allegiance which is claimed and enforced by the sovereign of his native land, and becomes reciprocally entitled to the protection of that sovereign, and to the other rights and advantages which are included in the term “citizenship.”

Garder v. Ward, 2 Mass. 244 (1805)

“And if, at common law, all human beings born within the ligeance of the King, and under the King’s obedience, were natural-born subjects, and not aliens, I do not perceive why this doctrine does not apply to these United States, in all cases in which there is no express constitutional or statute declaration to the contrary. . . . Subject and citizen are, in a degree, convertible terms as applied to natives, and though the term citizen seems to be appropriate to republican freemen, yet we are, equally with the inhabitants of all other countries, subjects, for we are equally bound by allegiance and subjection to the government and law of the land.”

James Kent, COMMENTARIES ON AMERICAN LAW (1826)

“The country where one is born, how accidental soever his birth in that place may have been, and although his parents belong to another country, is that to which he owes allegiance. Hence the expression natural born subject or citizen, & all the relations thereout growing. To this there are but few exceptions, and they are mostly introduced by statutes and treaty regulations, such as the children of seamen and ambassadors born abroad, and the like.”

Leake v. Gilchrist, 13 N.C. 73 (N.C. 1829)

“Before our Revolution, all free persons born within the dominions of the King of Great Britain, whatever their color or complexion, were native-born British subjects; those born out of his allegiance were aliens. . . . Upon the Revolution, no other change took place in the law of North Carolina than was consequent upon the transition from a colony dependent on an European King to a free and sovereign State; . The term ‘citizen,’ as understood in our law, is precisely analogous to the term ’subject’ in the common law, and the change of phrase has entirely resulted from the change of government. The sovereignty has been transferred from one man to the collective body of the people, and he who before as a ’subject of the king’ is now ‘a citizen of the State.”

State v. Manuel, 4 Dev. & Bat. 20, 24-26 (1838)


130 posted on 05/30/2011 4:28:55 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: jdub

Colon was not in the Panama Canal Zone.


131 posted on 05/30/2011 4:34:56 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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To: SatinDoll
2) Derived citizenship - born overseas to U.S. citizens.

In most cases, someone born to U.S. citizens overseas would be citizens at birth, a natural born citizen.

Derived citizenship is citizenship passed on to the child from parents who become naturalized citizens.

132 posted on 05/30/2011 4:38:00 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: curiosity

What would be the difference if he was born in the Colon Hospital?


133 posted on 05/30/2011 5:00:56 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: MikeSteelBe
How many pastors do you think today would actually pick up a rifle like the original members of the Black Robe Regiment?

Perhaps none in the first wave. Moral courage is nearly nonexistant in the church's ministry. I pray for your pastor that he is a man of courage. We need moral leadership now more than ever before. The church must be its source, founded upon the guidance of the Lord.

134 posted on 05/30/2011 5:16:02 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: Kleon

Nope. Wrong again, Kleon.

I keep telling you to read the Citizenship section of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services online site.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Natural born citizenship IS NOT a type of citizenship. It is only an eligibility requirement for the Presidency.

You keep making stuff up for you hero, Obama. Shame on you!


135 posted on 05/30/2011 5:16:29 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Candor7
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

Another take on the topic... Consider the likely consequences should the powers that be (or were) rule Obama ineligible on what would be commonly thought to be a technicality just to deny a black man the duly elected presidency.

136 posted on 05/30/2011 5:30:21 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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To: little jeremiah

If Schwarzenegger can forge a birth certificate why cant the Obama campaign...

http://www.examiner.com/tabloid-headlines-in-national/birth-certificate-of-schwarzenegger-s-love-child-mildred-baena-divorce-filing-picture


137 posted on 05/30/2011 5:31:05 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: SatinDoll
Natural born citizenship IS NOT a type of citizenship. It is only an eligibility requirement for the Presidency.

Native and natural born are interchangeable, so it fits into your list of types of citizenship. As for derived citizenship, it's just a form of naturalization, or citizenship derived after birth. This is what your link says, so I don't see where your confusion comes from.

138 posted on 05/30/2011 5:36:38 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: GregoryFul

Yes that is another meme. Yet the constitution makes no reference to race on the eligibility issue.

Obamas policies are treasonous in many respects to American culture and to our allies with whom we have treaties. That is the true measure of the man, not his skin color or his minority and ethnic support by virtue of race at all costs. Those who give such support need to be taught a lesson
in the civics of freedom. The duty to support freedom and the constitution supercedes all other factors, including one’s race.Therefore I would have no problem supporting the removal of Obama/Soetoro.None what so ever. Damn the rascists who support Obama at any cost and full speed ahead.


139 posted on 05/30/2011 5:41:24 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Kleon
"Obviously fake." What matter? So to you the substance of McCain's being born in Colon is a fraud? Please see www.scribd.com/doc/9934044/John-McCain-Birth-Certificate.

That so-called fake was created, I guess, by Obots to make sure that McCain was disqualified as a candidate for the presidency of errrr...Panama, I presume. McCain voluntarily claimed a birth in Colon and you question the proof of such, the certificate, as not being legit. What logic am I missing? So I guess McCain really was born in the USA, in Ohio? You are right and by that logic, McCain cannot become the President of Panama. LOL.

140 posted on 05/30/2011 5:45:58 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: masadaman

I don’t know if the heat is getting to me, but none of your last post made any sense.


141 posted on 05/30/2011 5:47:50 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Nope. Once again you’re wrong.

I know you, 100% in the tank for Obama, can’t admit that you’re wrong.

But you haven’t the right to spread disinformation.


142 posted on 05/30/2011 6:04:26 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Kleon

....Native and natural born are interchangeable....

Says who?


143 posted on 05/30/2011 6:11:26 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Candor7
I agree that Obama's policies are treasonous, and opposition leaders should bring that out and convince the majority of Americans such is so. The man said he believes that the US Constitution is fatally flawed, needs to specify positive rights and all that nonsense. Yet, presumably, he swore an oath to uphold it as it stands, and then proceeds to tear it down.

I'm just saying that if Obama were to be removed from office, or had been prohibited from assuming office once elected, a huge amount of violence would have spread across the country. The significant loss of life and property would be hard to justify for such a seemingly moot point. We are between a rock and a hard place.

The state legislatures need to pass laws that prevent ineligible people from appearing on their ballots, and invalidate votes for any write in candidate not willing or able to proof eligibility. Unquestionable proof of eligibility must be presented to any requesting citizen before certification of the vote. Or better yet, before appearance on the ballot.

The sad and stupid mishmash we have now is begging of a civil war or massive street violence.

144 posted on 05/30/2011 6:13:46 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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To: GregoryFul
I'm just saying that if Obama were to be removed from office, or had been prohibited from assuming office once elected, a huge amount of violence would have spread across the country. The significant loss of life and property would be hard to justify for such a seemingly moot point. We are between a rock and a hard place.

Actually if the usurper is not removed from office the violence and death will be immensely worse. To allow a criminal thug usurper to squat illegally in the White House because of cowards who are afraid of a few riots which might or might not happen is the most disgusting cowardly sentiment I've ever heard. It's merely an excuse for the two party criminal class in DC to do nothing so as not to upset their gravy train and cushy lifestyle.

Constitutional eligibility is a freaking "moot point"? And you accuse Zero of disrespecting the Constitution??? You want the states to demand proof of eligibility? We already have proof the thug is NOT eligible. For the last three years. We are in the middle of a coup and you're worried about a few thugs burning down their neighborhoods or something.

145 posted on 05/30/2011 6:28:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GregoryFul
I'm just saying that if Obama were to be removed from office, or had been prohibited from assuming office once elected, a huge amount of violence would have spread across the country. The significant loss of life and property would be hard to justify for such a seemingly moot point. We are between a rock and a hard place.

Actually if the usurper is not removed from office the violence and death will be immensely worse. To allow a criminal thug usurper to squat illegally in the White House because of cowards who are afraid of a few riots which might or might not happen is the most disgusting cowardly sentiment I've ever heard. It's merely an excuse for the two party criminal class in DC to do nothing so as not to upset their gravy train and cushy lifestyle.

Constitutional eligibility is a freaking "moot point"? And you accuse Zero of disrespecting the Constitution??? You want the states to demand proof of eligibility? We already have proof the thug is NOT eligible. For the last three years. We are in the middle of a coup and you're worried about a few thugs burning down their neighborhoods or something.

146 posted on 05/30/2011 6:28:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: pepperdog

Absolutely - when the author of this piece claimed McCain was not a citizen - born of a U.S. military father and a U.s citizen mother - they lost credibility and hurt the rest of their claim, no matter how valid.


147 posted on 05/30/2011 6:35:18 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (.WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Ordinary_American
"Having been born in Panama and not eligible to run for the Presidency, McCain obviously doesn’t recognize the Constitution either. "

McCain was born of two US citizens while serving on a military base in Panama. there is no way on earth I would EVER classify someone born that way as NOT being a "natural born citizen". It would be a supreme dishonor to the children of every military veteran.

Obama on the other hand has a british father and an underage mother and born in Kenya. that is why he keeps hiding his REAL birth records

148 posted on 05/30/2011 6:39:26 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Never mind, that’s not the way I mean it.

This whole discussion is like pissing into the wind anyway.

There is no rule of law in this country, and the Constitution is not the law of the land.

We should argue how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, it’s just as relevant to the real world. Or how to get a camel through the eye of a needle. Because that’s the kind of magic it’s going to take to pull this country out of the crapper.


149 posted on 05/30/2011 6:39:43 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: GregoryFul
The significant loss of life and property would be hard to justify for such a seemingly moot point. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Its not moot.Its article II of our Constitution. And I can assure you as a historian, that the future damage and disaster of defeating this national socialist movement through civil virtue will impose a far greater cost on our people in terms of death and destruction, than in the present case proposal too enforce the constitution. The horrible suffering in that future would pale the so called death and destruction perpetrated on our nation by those who would seek to protest Obama's removal in this way , protesting by the use of violence. Indeed it would prove us right in our resolve. It was also true when we as a nation rejected the methods of the Black Panthers and those of the Symbionese Liberation front, the precurser cousins to those who now dress in sheeps clothing of a so called kinder and gentler left, and occupy the White House to the detriment of our whole nation and its economy and peace. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

150 posted on 05/30/2011 6:48:19 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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