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TEA PARTY AND OLD GUARD REPUBS WELL ON THEIR WAY TO RE-ELECTING OBAMA
5/30/11 | TEDWINT

Posted on 05/30/2011 12:02:25 PM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib

An open message to the New York Tea Party:

Congratulations on your pitiful loss of the New York 26th district. Clumsily run; clumsily lost. Allowing Jack Davis to sell himself as a Tea Party candidate without exposing him as a liar leads one to assume that either the Tea Party leaders are incredibly stupid or they wanted Kathy Hochul to win. Allowing the Democrats to sell the outrageous lie that the Republicans’ Medicare reform plan is tantamount to an end of Medicare without exposing them as the liars they are was either incredibly stupid or you actually wanted Kathy Hochul to win. Wise up or continue to ensure Obama's reelection.

Why do our own guys drop the ball when they get a perfect opportunity to clarify the Republican policies? After watching that reprehensible video of Grandma being thrown off a cliff, Mitch McConnell on Fox News Sunday (5/22), neglected to mention that in the Paul Ryan plan for reforming Social Security and Medicare, for people 55 years of age and older, nothing will change. Grandma will not be thrown off a cliff, under the bus or down the stairs, whereas, under ObamaCare, there will be European-style rationing, which is the equivalent of (dare I say it?) Death Panels, and Grandma will be in deep trouble.


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1 posted on 05/30/2011 12:02:27 PM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

It is a good point: The perfect is the enemy of the good.

You can bet your butt that the DNC will take note of this and leverage the “I would rather vote independent than RINO” crowd.

By numbers, they didn’t give us barry zero soreto in 2008. But they will give us his second term.


2 posted on 05/30/2011 12:07:27 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

bump


3 posted on 05/30/2011 12:09:03 PM PDT by IbJensen (Welfare: putting a cake under the sink expecting that it wont attract cockroaches.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib
The only way obama get's re-elected is if Christ raptures His church and McStain get's the nomination again.

Other than that obama and those who protect him will be lucky if they escape hard jail time.

4 posted on 05/30/2011 12:09:27 PM PDT by FreeMaine (Real trucks don't have spark plugs)
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To: freedumb2003
If you think that was the point you missed the real point - In this case the fraudulent is the enemy of the good. That elections says NOTHING about the electability of great conservative candidates.

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

5 posted on 05/30/2011 12:10:54 PM PDT by DManA
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To: freedumb2003

Sarah will turn things around for the Republicans in a matter of days, when she announces. Word of warning for the GOP- if Sarah (or someone at least as conservative) doesn’t get the nod for ‘12 there are a LOT of us that will go third party. We may not win ‘12 but by ‘16 the GOP will be the minor third party. This is your last chance.


6 posted on 05/30/2011 12:13:25 PM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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To: DManA

>>In this case the fraudulent is the enemy of the good<<

And yet was able to draw off votes.

I agree we need the best conservative candidate — and my tag says who I say that is (Cain). But after all is said and done, we need to support whomever wins (even if we have to throw up after voting Romney — let us pray it doesn’t come to that).

The call for purity will kill us in 2012.


7 posted on 05/30/2011 12:14:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

The only reason anybody can possibly promote voting for a RINO over a principled conservative is because they want to drag as many conservatives down the path to destruction with them. I can see no other explanation being that the only difference between a RINO and a liberal is the pace at which we self destruct.

Many around FR like to use the frog in the pot analogy, well it applies to no situation better than than the RINO vs Conservative situation. Fortunately we have some pretty smart frogs who are jumping out of the pot. Those of you who wish to remain hoping your combined body temperature will save you... lots a luck. I see a Chinese buffet table in your future.


8 posted on 05/30/2011 12:15:14 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (I will never ask permission to do what's right.)
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To: conservaterian

>>If Sarah...doesn’t get the nod for ‘12 there are a LOT of us that will go third party. <<

The words of “Conservatives for Obama 2012: when soft socialism isn’t extreme enough.”

You make my point for me.


9 posted on 05/30/2011 12:18:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

NY-26 doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Just stay focused on the good fight and Obama will be a one term wonder.


10 posted on 05/30/2011 12:18:47 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib
Congratulations on your pitiful loss of the New York 26th district. Clumsily run; clumsily lost. Allowing Jack Davis to sell himself as a Tea Party candidate without exposing him as a liar leads one to assume that either the Tea Party leaders are incredibly stupid or they wanted Kathy Hochul to win.

Davis ran as a "tea party" candidate to exploit a rift in the conservative movement, specifically that of free trade. No matter how many times we said he was a liberal, the democrats weren't going to vote for him anyway, they had their candidate.

Davis had an issue which resonated with a subset of the conservative movement, while the republican candidate spent the last two weeks downplaying the republican medicare plan. Also, Davis allowed a dynamic where the negative attacks were between Davis and Corwin, while Hochul stayed above the fray, and simply focused on medicare.

So in the end, Hochul was able to win all the democrats, plus people who love to vote but hate strongly negative attacks, and people who were swayed by the medicare lies.

Meanwhile, a lot of people who voted republican last time didn't show up. Some were still embarrased at electing a sleezeball, and didn't care to vote. Some turned off by the negative attacks, some didn't like Corwin distancing herself from Ryan's plan.

Davis attracted the Ron Paul vote to some degree, anti-free-trade, anti-interventionist, and somewhat libertarian. But he only got 9% of the vote.

I'd add that he managed to peel off votes that would have mindlessly voted republican: When he hit 23% of the vote, those voters were mostly republicans who for whatever reason were persuaded, for a moment, to leave the republican nominee. Once they were thinking, the attacks on Davis probably turned a lot of them off, so while they decided not to vote Davis, they probably stayed home.

The point is that 90% of a vote is keeping your base from thinking twice about something. Once they are told to choose, some will. The Democrat got about the same number of votes as in the general election, but the republican vote simply failed to show up.

Which is the last problem -- republicans tend to have jobs which require them to be at work; democrats are more unemployed, or teachers who have shorter workdays or work where the polling places are, or unions which have elections in their contracts. Democrats live in cities where it's easier to vote.

It's just a fact that in most special elections, the minority party does better than in major elections. They see a chance to finally win, which somewhat overcomes the apathy. I've seen republicans come close to winning strongly democratic districts in Virginia in special elections.

There is no "Tea Party". The "Tea Party" was a movement, nor an organization. Because it was not an organization, it didn't have protection for the name, and people coopted the name for their own purposes.

11 posted on 05/30/2011 12:18:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: freedumb2003

We can’t vote for Romney, that is a bridge too far.


12 posted on 05/30/2011 12:26:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

I also question the RNC’s ineptness in New York’s 26th district election. This was Politics 101 tactics and the New York RNC acted like they were college freshmen at a beer party rather than studying for their political science final. Well, the party is over and they flunked political science. I hope this is not a national trend.


13 posted on 05/30/2011 12:30:10 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib
NO ONE should base any opinion on ANYTHING NY. I am a New Yorker since birth.

Whatever happens here should NOT reflect what's happening elsewhere.

Our rebubes are NOT Conservative. We tried to get a few elected but failed to do so.

NY is a true blue state. I learned that the hard way in 2008, in my little town in Suffolk County Long Island. Most of us are Conservative. I would have sworn we would take 2008, inspite of mclame, but because of Sarah.

Even in our local election, where I saw Carl Paladino, Joseph J. DioGuardi & John B. Gomez prominently displayed, went on my own “one man bandwagon”, I could have sworn we would win. Boy, was I wrong.

New York is NOT a place one should look at for ANY future of America.

14 posted on 05/30/2011 12:30:52 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: freedumb2003

A third party will guarantee O’Bummer’s re-election.


15 posted on 05/30/2011 12:32:21 PM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

The fake Tea Party problem will not be an issue on the Presidential line. Yes, there will be some dunderhead Libertarian types (Ron Paul supporters, etc) who will vote 3rd party, but the vast majority of those opposed to Obama will vote for the Republican nominee almost no matter who it is.

Saying that though, this thing with fake and real Tea Party candidates running 3rd party has the potential to be a major problem on a congressional and maybe even state level. It seems pretty clear that in some places disgruntled Tea Party candidates and activists are perfectly willing to throw elections to Democrats in order to spite the GOP. In NY 26, Bellavia was the preferred Tea Party candidate and when he didn’t get the nomination he and some of his supporters actually endorsed and actively supported the fake Tea Party candidate Davis. All this just to stick it to the GOP. Have the NY Tea Party groups officially apologized for and banished their original candidate of choice (Bellavia) who turned out to be an utter scumbag? If they have, I haven’t heard it.

Additionally, a certain percentage of ignorant folks on the right apparently identify with the Tea Party and will vote for anyone with a Tea Party after their name without even knowing or understanding who the candidate is.

These factors suggest Dems will run fake Tea Party candidates wherever they can, and count on butthurt real Tea Party candidates who didn’t get the GOP nomination to run 3rd party in various spots throughout the country.

Considering the screw ups in NY 23 (2nd time around), the crap candidate Bellavia in NY 26 they originally supported and the nomination of that buffoon Paladino, it is probably safe to say the New York Tea Party has been more a negative than a positive. But the NY GOP is nothing to write home about either. We just have to hope that the various Tea Party organizations in the rest of the states get their act together and don’t fail utterly like their brethren in New York state. Overall the Tea Party nationwide has been a very positive force in pushing the Republican party to the right, they will just have to make a real effort to educate their folks that the Tea Party operates WITHIN the confines of the Republican party - and NOT as a 3rd party.


16 posted on 05/30/2011 12:33:41 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Jim Robinson
Hey Jim Rob...what do you think of this thread?

Gettin' kind of wierd - in my opinion!

17 posted on 05/30/2011 12:35:25 PM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: freedumb2003

How about Hillary for President? Obama is on the way out and will be soon removed from office. Obama is an embarrassment and also incompetent as President. He dosen’t deserve another term. If Hillary gets nominated, then the GOP candidate will have a chance.
Ya, think about it!


18 posted on 05/30/2011 12:38:38 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib
If the Old Guard Republicans choose to put another RINO on the ticke6t. I, and many that I know , will not vote for them. If this results in a second term for obama, so be it.

I don't know if I should tell you this or not, but, against my better judgment, I voted for McCain in 2008. A lot of good that did. But I will not knowingly vote for a RINO again.

19 posted on 05/30/2011 12:39:32 PM PDT by sport
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To: NoGrayZone
Even in our local election, where I saw Carl Paladino

If you nominate clowns like Paladino, you won't win anywhere.

New York is not very conservative friendly, but nominate good candidates and keep everyone on the same page and yes, we can even get our share of wins in NY.

20 posted on 05/30/2011 12:39:47 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: FreeMaine

I pray that you are correct!
That being said, if our guys think that Obama is going to be a pushover, we are doomed.


21 posted on 05/30/2011 12:40:48 PM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

Liberals are energized right now.

Our nominee needs to depress their enthusiasm by reminding them of the wasted opportunity Obama and the Dems had when they held a fillibuster-proof majority.


22 posted on 05/30/2011 12:40:57 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

What happened in NY 26 wasn’t as much about the Tea Party as much as the strength of the GOP candidate. Davis was a fraud but that Davis was a fraud was not the entire reason Hochul won. One of the problems was that the GOP candidate resigned in disgrace. Another is that Corwin though attractive was not overly inspiring plus the local media which though in a GOP district I doubt were GOP stalwarts. I’ve seen how the left in the media conspire to elect Democrats when they smell GOP blood. They’ve done it here in VA and led to the reign of Mark Warner,Jim Webb, and Tim Kaine. However neither of those men would’ve ever gotten elected had it not been for a combination of media acrimony and in the case of Allen a campaign that seemed to thing it was such a sure thing that it could run out the clock to election day. Blaming the Tea Party for NY GOP problems is crazy. They have been in decline for sometime largely because of their failure to make clear distinctions between themselves and their Democrat opponents. You have to offer someone something that they can vote for not just something to vote against.

I’m not too worried about NY 26. The district is going to be gone anyway and if it does persist then the GOP has a very good chance of retaking it. The key thing to remember is that this isn’t a zero sum game. We lost some key midterm seats prior to 2010 and anyone who thinks NY 26 is a bellwether should have their heads examined. I’ve seen no polling that confirmed the reason Hochul won was because of medicare. I do know that Corwin had a spotty conservative record. However a key thing is that this midterm really captured the left’s attention where as it didn’t capture the conservative base or Tea Party as much. Winning has that effect. We have the house, that one seat wasn’t going to make the difference. We should’ve fought harder maybe but the truth is the money was poured in from both Tea Party and establishment sources. However it seemed to me that when a Republican has to argue that they are the “true conservative” then they’ve probably got more problems than their opponents.

One race does not a victory or apocalypse make. I am personally interested in making sure that the money is there to keep the Wisconsin state Senate GOP. That is a place where we can win and we need to win. A win in upstate NY means crap in comparison to letting the Dems win in Wisconsin and cut the legs off Judge Walker. We won the Supreme court race. Let’s keep our eye on the ball and not only protect the Wisconsin state GOP senators but also expand our majority. We have a whole country of conservatives. We should be primed for a battle where the battles matter.


23 posted on 05/30/2011 12:42:29 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: ansel12

obama thanks you for your vote.

(I agree we HAVE TO get rid of Romney — that isn’t the point)


24 posted on 05/30/2011 12:43:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: FreeMaine
LOL...European socialist “elites” in the “ruling” class dont’ go to jail, haven't you heard of French laws?
25 posted on 05/30/2011 12:43:48 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: harpu

Yup. RINOs ate getting desperate. Eff ‘em.


26 posted on 05/30/2011 12:44:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

‘Mitch McConnel neglected to mention...’ That’s the trouble. The leaderes of the Repubs are dumb as rocks and have the same reaction time.


27 posted on 05/30/2011 12:47:30 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

Running a pro-abortion, pro-homo, statist RINO will guarantee Obummer gets re-elected.

Rebellion is brewing!!

DONT TREAD ON ME!!


28 posted on 05/30/2011 12:48:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/05/29/elderly-patients-dying-of-thirst-british-doctors-prescribe-water/

In Britain, “water” is now a prescription “drug” for patients dying of thirst ????????? ... how long before that’s true of US Citizens in US Hospitals and Nursing Homes because of OBAMA [un]Care?

WHILE we’re at it: Overpopulation is a Myth: Plenty of Food and Space Exists ~~ see: http://www.lifenews.com/2011/05/29/overpopulation-is-a-myth-plenty-of-food-and-space-exists/

WE ARE BEING ALINSKYED ... PLEASE SPREAD TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY!


29 posted on 05/30/2011 12:48:46 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I am a US Citizen, A Patriot, A TEA Partier, An Oath Keeper, A Voter, An Auburn Fan!)
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To: Longbow1969
Paladino IS NY. Yes, he is rough around the edges, but so are we.

"New York is not very conservative friendly, but nominate good candidates and keep everyone on the same page"

You mean like a RINO? A mushy middle man whom flows where the wind blows and tries to make EVERYONE happy? Screw that.

30 posted on 05/30/2011 12:49:36 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: hapnHal

“Obama is on the way out and will be soon removed from office”

I hope you’re right but on what information are you basing this prediction? The birth-cert issue?


31 posted on 05/30/2011 12:51:07 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: sport

America has probably (I hope) survived the first Obama term.
If he is allowed to serve a second term, his team will consider that a mandate of his policies and, emboldened, they will “fundamentally transform” the United States (one of the only promises that he fully intends to keep) to the point that, when we tell our grandkids how great America was in the olden days, they’ll think, “Grandpa’s fantasizing again!”


32 posted on 05/30/2011 12:57:10 PM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: NoGrayZone
Paladino IS NY. Yes, he is rough around the edges, but so are we.

Oh yeah, he's so NY that he lost a statewide election by nearly 30% to uber liberal Andrew Cuomo. Paladino didn't even keep the race close and finished with only 1/3 of the vote.

You mean like a RINO? A mushy middle man whom flows where the wind blows and tries to make EVERYONE happy? Screw that.

No, I mean the most conservative candidate that can actually win - NOT a clownish figure who will go down to certain defeat.

33 posted on 05/30/2011 12:58:41 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: freedumb2003
I agree we need the best conservative candidate — and my tag says who I say that is (Cain). But after all is said and done, we need to support whomever wins (even if we have to throw up after voting Romney — let us pray it doesn’t come to that)

Please identify any legislation that Obama (or his pen, or his teleprompter) has signed that Romney or McCain wouldn't have. I'm coming up empty.

If the choice is simply between two liberals, why would you want to vote for the liberal with the (R)ino after their name? Why not choose the candidate which best fits your viewpoints, and get the party back, instead of simply giving it away to the liberals?

34 posted on 05/30/2011 1:05:01 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: sport

Even a RINO, if he (or she) is lucky enough to win, is infinitely better than Hussein getting a second term.

America has probably (I hope) survived the first Obama term.
If he is allowed to serve a second term, his team will consider that a mandate of his policies and, emboldened, they will “fundamentally transform” the United States (one of the only promises that he fully intends to keep) to the point that, when we tell our grandkids how great America was in the olden days, they’ll think, “Grandpa’s fantasizing again!”

I voted for McCain, too. He should never have been our candidate!!!


35 posted on 05/30/2011 1:05:51 PM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: FreeMaine

Ditto that. By Next Nov any Republican beats Barry in a landslide.


36 posted on 05/30/2011 1:13:12 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: kingu

I am pretty sure McCain or Romney would not have done all that sturm und drang mit the buyout of GM, the choosing of winners and losers in the bailout, etc. Either would have killed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and neither would have flipped off our allies in England nor put American lives in harms way to make themselves feel good about being part of that damned and damnable “institution” the UN.

And, Romneycare notwithstanding (he at least makes an argument that it is a State Issue), we would not have seen the POS that is obamacare.

There are very real differences. Eating worms to ensure purity doesn’t accomplish anything except vomiting worm guts.


37 posted on 05/30/2011 1:24:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: FreeMaine

Obama has near overwhelming force behind him: the MSM, the Crony Capitalists, ACORN, the Unions, Soros and his minions, the parasite class, illegal aliens, their enablers and their slave masters, etc.

He’s got 40% of the vote without spending a cent or saying a word.

We’ve got a hell of an uphill fight ahead of us.


38 posted on 05/30/2011 1:31:18 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: freedumb2003

You’re right. McCain would have bailed out GM and Chrysler, turning them into a single company. Romney would have wanted stronger tax penalties for those who didn’t participate in Oba-RomneyCare. The was the Republican candidate who boldly declared that he likes govenment mandates, because they work. Both would have worked with liberals in congress to get their policies through.


39 posted on 05/30/2011 1:32:37 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib

Didn’t the Democrat win by more votes than the phony TEA Party candidate got?


40 posted on 05/30/2011 1:39:15 PM PDT by EricT. (I'm going to spend 68% more than I make this year- I hear it's the responsible thing to do..)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Rebellion is brewing!!”

That’s what it’s going to take, Bro.
But, let’s keep it peaceable. Remember: We’re still the good guys!!
You can effectively “kick butt” without sending somebody to the hospital.


41 posted on 05/30/2011 1:40:22 PM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: freedumb2003

When Palin came on the scene we learned why the GOP is so ineffective and why conservatives get blocked at every chance.

As Palin forced into the open, the GOP establishment from Frum to Noonan to Rove, and Krauthammer, we learned that it was the GOP establishment that was stopping conservatism. The 2010 elections proved to us that even when we win the primaries that the GOP liberal block will go to work for the Democratic candidate to stop conservatism from prevailing, Mitt Romney is their effort to block Governor Palin and the entire conservative movement.

When it comes to Mitt Romney, you better choose a side, because he is a movement leader, not just another candidate.

If Romney wins, then kiss conservatism goodbye.


42 posted on 05/30/2011 1:45:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: freedumb2003
The words of “Conservatives for Obama 2012: when soft socialism isn’t extreme enough.” You make my point for me.
So you would vote for Mitt in '12 if he is the nominee? Why bother? He would just lose anyway, same result. I'd rather put my efforts into seeing how strong a third party vote we can get so that the GOP would be the third party by the time '16 rolls around. THEN maybe we could get a true conservative into the WH in '16. I'd gladly give up '12 to Obama if it was him or Romney (what would be the difference?) if we could have a real chance in '16.
43 posted on 05/30/2011 1:48:48 PM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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To: conservaterian

>>I’d rather put my efforts into seeing how strong a third party vote we can get so that the GOP would be the third party by the time ‘16 rolls around. <<

obama thanks you for your vote.

Let us pray we have a shred of the Constitution left after the second term you plan to vote for.


44 posted on 05/30/2011 1:51:42 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003
>>The call for purity will kill us in 2012.<<

If we don’t get purity this time it’s over for the nation we once knew.

45 posted on 05/30/2011 1:54:16 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: ansel12

>>If Romney wins, then kiss conservatism goodbye.<

It is on suspension. So, better to have complete and utter Communism run free than soft socialism?

I don’t wan’t either, but when the gun is at our head with “your money or your life” only the fool says “my life.” And we are replete with such people on this board and on this thread.

Think hard on these words again: The perfect is the enemy of the good.

But feel free to add: But the great is better than the good (define “great” as you wish) — it doesn’t change the statement at all.


46 posted on 05/30/2011 2:00:19 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: MostlyAnti-Lib
I do not want nor will I partake in any way and in any part of some compromise libtard candidate with an R by his or her name and a D by all of their actions and beliefs. We do not need someone that does not believe in the most basic of the fundamental tenants of Conservatism.

We are not going to compromise again... we cannot afford a rino... squishy libtard moderate candidates... both those that won and those that did not... are exactly how we got to the point that an unqualified enemy within was selected president... and the premise that a true Conservative cannot possibly be elected... is an damnable lie. It is not even an original lie... the first time that propaganda was used in my lifetime was Reagan's first run.

LLS

47 posted on 05/30/2011 2:00:51 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If you lie hard enough and sell your soul... you can scam your way to the top" barack obama)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

“In Britain, “water” is now a prescription “drug” for patients dying of thirst ????????? ”

Well, water is cheap enough, assuming there is someone who cares enough about the elderly patient to provide it. That’s not always the case.
Talk to people from the UK. They are warning us that with Obamacare, rationing is all but guaranteed.


48 posted on 05/30/2011 2:01:14 PM PDT by MostlyAnti-Lib
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To: freedumb2003

One more moron thinking that votes that don’t go to obama elect obama.

Only affirmative votes count ‘for’ a candidate.

Voting the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil, isn’t it?


49 posted on 05/30/2011 2:03:54 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

>>Voting the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil, isn’t it?<<

That is so trite.

Do you think McCain would have lowered our status in the world so low as now and destroyed the economy as it is now?

Do you think that “lesser evil” would have been still evil? Would Israel have to dispatch Bibi to remind the USA that 1967 “borders” don’t make sense?

Do you think a McCain administration would have shoveled a POS legislation so broad and bad that it will take use 3 or 4 complete GOP administration to undo? And tee late for the damage inflicted on our children and grandchildren?

Yeah, the lesser of 2 evils is evil.

Way to go. Your purity is showing its real world results.


50 posted on 05/30/2011 2:10:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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