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Name Change for Obama Found in British Columbia?
drkatesview ^ | 6/3/2011 | drkate

Posted on 06/06/2011 5:25:25 AM PDT by Beckwith

On June 3, Steven Pidgeon gave a terrific interview on Trunews, discussing new and important information contained in his book, The Obama Error. This is worth listening to the entire hour discussion. Some important tidbits:

•Pidgeon found at the Consulate in British Columbia, just over the US-Canada border, a record of a name change from “Barak Mounir Ubayd” to “Barack Hussein Obama” in 1982.




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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: certifigate; conspiracytheory; fraud; marxist; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; occupier; pidgeon; stevenpidgeon; treason
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Do you think we care...what Corsi did...we aren’t in it for ourselves...we are in it to rid this country of that enemy agent sitting in the people’s house...let him have his glory...if it rids us of this illegal alien...all the work was worth it...


101 posted on 06/06/2011 5:08:50 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: BuckeyeTexan; shield
Did Corsi bother to cite any of his sources as FR? Did he give FR birthers any credit whatsoever for the three years of blood, sweat, and tears they put into the effort of exposing Obama and the HDoH? I doubt it.

Yes he did cite FR.

102 posted on 06/06/2011 5:48:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: frankenMonkey

nope that is not a sure sign of anything


103 posted on 06/06/2011 5:49:49 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: DiogenesLamp

Of course in 1961 a young teenager pregnant with a bi-racial child would NEVER get sent to live with her Aunt.


More likely shipped off thousands of miles to a third world nation wanting to throw off white colonialism. All by herself...makes sense to me. /s


104 posted on 06/06/2011 5:59:12 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: curiosity; All

Sure, it could have happened, but the evidence suggests it did not. If Stanley Anne was sent to live with her Aunt Blaine, why is it she was living openly and alone with her biracial child in Seattle a month or so after the birth?

Sorry, but the facts just don’t fit your scenario.


Perhaps because she wanted to attend the University of Washington, which is LOCATED in Seattle???


105 posted on 06/06/2011 5:59:16 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: rxsid; All

But what he does know includes SSN theft...

Motion for clarification sent today

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=22471

NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION FOR CLARIFICATION

Plaintiff Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ, hereinafter “Taitz” is submitting this motion for Clarification to be decided based on the memorandum of points and authorities attached herein and oral argument, if the court finds, that the oral argument is required.

MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES

Defendant filed Motion to strike, requesting to seal the complaint, first amended complaint and all the exhibits or alternatively redact social security numbers.

Plaintiff thanks the court for allowing the documents not to be sealed, and only requesting refilling with redaction. Plaintiff believes that this case is of the outmost National importance and sealing the complaint and the exhibits will deprive the public of their right to know the truth.

Plaintiff, however, is requesting clarification from the court and the defense, as to what do they want redacted, if anything. Clarification is needed for following reasons:

1. There is a requirement of redaction of VALID social security numbers. Individuals should have only one social security number.

2. Affidavit of investigator Sankey, attached as an exhibit to the complaint, shows that national databases, such as Lexis Nexis and Choice Point, showed over a hundred bogus units of bogus social security numbers and addresses, which included some 39 different social security numbers, none of which were issued in HI, where Obama resided, when he started using a social security number. As one individual is supposed to have only one social security number, and there are N numbers in the databases, it means that at least (N-1 ) numbers are not valid and do not need to be redacted or all N numbers are invalid and do not need to be redacted. There was high probability, that all 39 numbers are invalid, as none were issued in HI. Affidavits of investigator Susan Daniels and recently retired senior deportation officer of the Department of Homeland Security, John Sampson, confirm, that Obama could not possibly obtain Connecticut social security number, while residing in HI. (Exhibits to first amended complaint)

3. Searching through those numbers Taitz found that Connecticut number 042-68-4425, is most commonly used.

4. Obama’s selective service certificate shows him using this number.( Exhibit 1)

5. Social Security Verification systems (Exhibit 2) shows, however, that this number 042-68-4425 was never issued to Obama. This means that none of the numbers used by Obama during his life and used today in the White House, are valid numbers . Those are either numbers, that were never assigned or numbers, that were assigned to deceased individuals, whose death was not reported to the Social Security administration. Mr. Obama’s lifelong friend, domestic terrorist William Ayers, aka Mr. “Guilty as sin, free as a bird”, described in his memoirs, Fugitive Days, how he and his wife, Ms. domestic terrorist Bernadette Dohrn, searched through the cemeteries for graves of children, got their birth certificates and applied for the social security numbers under the names of the deceased. “After the Baltimore fiasco, stealing ID was forbidden. Instead we began to build ID sets around documents as flimsy as a fishing license or a laminated card available in a Times Square novelty shop called “Official ID.” We soon figured out that the deepest and most foolproof ID had a government-issued Social Security card at its heart, and the best source of those were dead-baby birth certificates. I spent impious days over the next several months tramping through rural cemeteries in Iowa and Wisconsin, Illinois and North Dakota, searching for those sad little markers of people born between 1940 and 1950 who had died between 1945 and 1955. The numbers were surprising: two in one graveyard, a cluster of fourteen in another. Those poor souls had typically been issued birth certificates—available to us at any county courthouse for a couple of bucks and a simple form with information I could copy from the death announcement at the archive of the local paper—but they had never applied for a Social Security card.

Collecting those birth certificates became a small industry, and within a year we had over a hundred. For years I was a paper-made Joseph Brown, and then an Anthony Lee, remarkably durable identities. My on-paper official residences: a transient hotel in San Francisco and a warehouse in New York.” Bill Ayers, Fugitive Days. Ayers had a whole business of forged social security card making. It is unfortunate, that the person, occupying the position of the U.S. president, was using and is using a bogus social security number.

Clearly Mr. Obama cannot suffer any losses, due to his use of an invalid number, however there is a great benefit to the public at large, to ascertain the loopholes and malfunction within the Social Security Administration and make sure, that not only Mr. Obama is ultimately prosecuted, but also to make sure, that proper measures are taken to prevent such occurrence in the future. Great public interest and great significance of this most important matter of the national security outweigh minor inconveniences for the defendant commissioner of the Social Security administration and for Mr. Obama.

6. Since NONE of the numbers used by Mr. Obama represent a valid social security number, assigned to him, Taitz needs clarification from the court and the defendant, commissioner of the Social Security Administration, what exactly do they want her to redact? Do they want her to redact numerical gibberish, numbers that are invalid and were never assigned or the numbers, that were stolen from the deceased individuals? Please advise.

Respectfully submitted,

/s/ Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ


106 posted on 06/06/2011 5:59:27 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Perhaps because she wanted to attend the University of Washington, which is LOCATED in Seattle???

If she wasn't ashamed to live alone with a biracial child in Seattle, why would she be embarassed to give bith in Seattle or Hawaii? What's the point of flying from Hawaii to Blaine to give birth, only to then move to Seattle 6 weeks later?

107 posted on 06/06/2011 6:04:37 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

If she wasn’t ashamed to live alone with a biracial child in Seattle, why would she be embarassed to give bith in Seattle or Hawaii? What’s the point of flying from Hawaii to Blaine to give birth, only to then move to Seattle 6 weeks later?


Her whereabouts for approx. 6 months leading up the birth are unknown and undocumented (no access to passport records). What makes you believe she would fly to Blaine, WA just prior to birth?

How about spending the 2nd and 3rd trimester out of sight???

By the way, Seattle is a big city and much more cosmopolitan, easy to be a bit more anonymous than on Oahu...


108 posted on 06/06/2011 6:40:40 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: LucyT

“I’ll be offline for the remainder of the day, but later need to start a thread for one of our very own freepers who has exciting news. We need cake, balloons, and maybe a parade. If my html skills fail, I’ll post the news elsewhere.”

Sounds interesting! Do tell!


109 posted on 06/06/2011 6:54:26 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Beckwith

Why are the documents attached to these kinds of posts ALWAYS so fuzzy and unreadable? I mean, ALWAYS. Scanning systems and photocopying systems are so good these days, it really causes me to question the content of such posts.


110 posted on 06/06/2011 8:56:22 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We gave you a majority, now get busy!)
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To: Beckwith

OK
I have been watching this since election day. Timing is important here. I believe in 1981 BHO visited Pakistan at a time it was forbidden for Americans to visit the country. Is it possible he traveled through Canada under this Alias on his Canadian Passport. Or that he returned from Pakistan on a different passport then changed his name back. If so this could be interesting.


111 posted on 06/06/2011 9:25:33 PM PDT by TTowers (Barak Mounir Ubayd/ Obama/Pakistan)
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To: tired&retired
Isn’t it ironic that the last two Democrat presidents changed their names. Slick Willy was William Jefferson Blythe prior to changing his name to Clinton as a teenager.

Ironic? How so?

Seven presidents have changed their names.

Ulysses Simpson Grant -- was Hiram Ulysses Grant
Grover Cleveland -- was Stephen Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson -- was Thomas Woodrow Wilson
Calvin Coolidge -- was John Calvin Coolidge
Dwight David Eisenhower -- was David Dwight Eisenhower
Gerald Rudolph Ford -- was Leslie King, Jr.
William Jefferson Clinton -- was William Jefferson Blythe

Since there is no accepted evidence that Obama changed his name, I'm leaving him out. Even without him, 7 is 15.9% of 44 (the number of total presidents).

15.9% has to be much, much higher than the percentage of the general population who have change their names legally (except due to marriage, of course).

112 posted on 06/07/2011 12:40:27 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: DiogenesLamp

I had the Berkebile story (with maps) on my website.

Received a very hot letter from Berkebile’s niece informong me that Berkebile never lived in Blaine.

I took the Berkebile story down, but the possibility of a BC birth is real.


113 posted on 06/07/2011 3:05:37 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: CanaGuy
Why are the documents attached to these kinds of posts ALWAYS so fuzzy and unreadable?

In this case, because it was copied from a YouTube video.

Wouldn't want you losing any sleep.

114 posted on 06/07/2011 3:10:38 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

It sounds like a snipe hunt FRiend. But it would not hurt to at least run with it for awhile, you never know what might suddenly pop out of the bushes....


115 posted on 06/07/2011 3:31:34 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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To: mountainbunny

Thank you for that information. I would have never imagined that many changed their names.


116 posted on 06/07/2011 5:06:27 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: shield
Obviously, your a supporter of the illegal alien in the WH.

There are no Obama supporters on Free Republic.

117 posted on 06/07/2011 5:37:44 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: curiosity
Sure, it could have happened, but the evidence suggests it did not. If Stanley Anne was sent to live with her Aunt Blaine, why is it she was living openly and alone with her biracial child in Seattle a month or so after the birth?

What evidence do you have that it did not? I can point to three pieces of circumstantial evidence to suggest that it did. I concede they are not conclusive, but they are indicative.

1. University of Washington record placing Ann in Seattle August 18.

2. Presence of Aunt Living in Blaine Washington.

3. Testimony by Susan Blake claiming Stanley Ann did not know how to change a Diaper.

And if you want to throw it in, That same testimony says Stanley Ann showed up at Susan's house in a borrowed Car. Who would Stanley borrow a car from if not a Relative? Who would that relative be if not the Aunt and Uncle living in Blaine?

118 posted on 06/07/2011 6:48:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
What evidence do you have that it did not?

The fact that Obama's long-form birth certificate, authenticated by the state of Hawaii, says she gave birth in Honolulu.

I can point to three pieces of circumstantial evidence to suggest that it did. I concede they are not conclusive, but they are indicative.

LOL. They aren't even indicative.

1. University of Washington record placing Ann in Seattle August 18.

Nope. The August date on the transcript is a typographical error, already confirmed by the University. Fall classes in 1961 started on Sept. 18, not August 18. Some university clerk mistyped an "8" instead of a "9," so the earliest you can place her at the university is Sept. 18, plenty of time for a young mother to recover from a smooth, uncomplicated birth.

2. Presence of Aunt Living in Blaine Washington.

So? How is that indicative? Just because someone has an Aunt living in a small town somewhere doesn't mean she's living with her.

3. Testimony by Susan Blake claiming Stanley Ann did not know how to change a Diaper.

So?

And if you want to throw it in, That same testimony says Stanley Ann showed up at Susan's house in a borrowed Car. Who would Stanley borrow a car from if not a Relative?

A friend. SAD went to high school in Mercer Island, and hence had friends living in the Seattle area. Haven't you ever borrowed a car from a friend?

119 posted on 06/07/2011 8:59:47 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Her whereabouts for approx. 6 months leading up the birth are unknown and undocumented (no access to passport records).

Her passport application records wouldn't give you any indication of her whereabouts.

What makes you believe she would fly to Blaine, WA just prior to birth?

I don't. I was responding to a Freeper who was speculating that she was sent to live with her Aunt in Blaine.

How about spending the 2nd and 3rd trimester out of sight???

Why?

120 posted on 06/07/2011 9:25:16 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

If passport records are retained by the State Department, where are those of Stanley Ann Dunham for the years 1961-1964?

http://www.rightwire.net/2011/05/what-is-state-department-hiding-about.html

Better questions:

WHAT are they hiding?

WHERE was SAD, particularly the 6 months leading up to the purported birth? There is no evidence that she was in Oahu as she had dropped out of school.

WHEN will the truth will out?


121 posted on 06/07/2011 12:01:13 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
If passport records are retained by the State Department, where are those of Stanley Ann Dunham for the years 1961-1964?

The only pasport records the State Department keeps are are passport APPLICATIONS. They would tell you nothing about her travels.

As to their location, the State Department says it destroyed them, along with several others. This is not unusual.

WHAT are they hiding?

Nothing. That's because there wouldn't be any information in a passport application that would be worth hiding.

Seriously, have you ever applied for a passport? Do you have any idea what information goes into an application?

I'll tell you: very mundane things. Name, address, marital status, birth certificate or proof of citizenship, and the like.

None of this information would have any relevance whatsoever to Obama's eligibility.

WHERE was SAD, particularly the 6 months leading up to the purported birth?

Honolulu.

There is no evidence that she was in Oahu as she had dropped out of school.

Huh? So just because she dropped out of school you think it means she left Oahu? There's absolutely no reason to believe she was anywhere execpt the Hawaiian islands during those six months.

WHEN will the truth will out?

It has. Unfortunately, you refuse to accept it.

122 posted on 06/07/2011 12:13:50 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: TTowers
I believe in 1981 BHO visited Pakistan at a time it was forbidden for Americans to visit the country.

Sigh. Your belief is wrong. This particular birther myth was debunked over two years ago.

And yet birthers like you continue to repeat it as if it were gospel.

So sad. Don't you ever check your facts? It would literally take no more than five minutes on Google to verify that this factoid is false.

123 posted on 06/07/2011 12:17:23 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Hotlanta Mike
More likely shipped off thousands of miles to a third world nation wanting to throw off white colonialism. All by herself...makes sense to me. /s

Yeah, I never bought the "Born in Kenya" thing. A month or so ago I saw a very good article explaining the virtual impossibility of a Kenyan birth. I am aware Barack and Michelle have indicated several times that he was born in Kenya, but i'm pretty sure the silly b@sturd doesn't know where he was born.

If you are going to try to make up an exotic persona, claiming your were born in "Kenya" just feeds the fantasy.

124 posted on 06/07/2011 12:22:20 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity; TTowers
Here is the 1981 State Department Travel Advisory:

“Before traveling to Pakistan, American Citizens should be aware of the following updated visa requirements: 30 day visas are available at Pakistani airports for tourists only. As these visas are rarely extended beyond the 30 day time per visa. Tourists planning to stay longer should secure visas before coming to Pakistan. Any traveler coming into Pakistan overland from India must repeat must have a valid visa, as 30 day visas are not repeat not issued at the overland border crossing point at Wagha.”

There is no need to invoke the obtaining of an Indonesian passport to avoid a travel restriction. No matter what the advisory said, if Barry was traveling on an Indonesian passport, it wouldn't have affected him. It's still a valid question to ask whether he was traveling on an Indonesian passport, to where, for how long, and whether he used that as proof to substantiate a claim for a particular type of financial aid for foreign students. The State Department's travel advisory has nothing at all to do with this.
125 posted on 06/07/2011 12:28:58 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: curiosity
If she wasn't ashamed to live alone with a biracial child in Seattle, why would she be embarassed to give bith in Seattle or Hawaii? What's the point of flying from Hawaii to Blaine to give birth, only to then move to Seattle 6 weeks later?

You're assuming the embarrassment was on her part. According to commentary from people who worked with Madelyn Dunham, they claim to have never known she had a grandchild. She apparently never mentioned it at work. Stanley was obviously not embarrassed in the slightest to have a bi-racial child.

Here's the scenario. Mom finds out Daughter is pregnant with a Black Child, ships her off to Aunt Eleanor in Blaine Washington. (Abortion was ILLEGAL in 1961) When she goes into Labor, they have to run to white rock for a maternity hospital, Mom finds out that the child is born in Canada, and immediately files a "born at Home" birth application to secure American Citizenship for her Grandson. Might not be true, but it sounds like a more believable story than the stuff Obama has proffered in his book. (Do you really think 17-18 year old pregnant Stanley had the money for an Airplane ticket in 1961?)

Remember, When Ann was dealing with paperwork between Hawaii and Indonesia, the American Passport people were questioning Barry's "Hawaiian birth." Apparently there was some sort of problem with it even back then.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35192432/Allen-v-USCIS-DHS-FOIA-Release-Lolo-Soetoro-Obama-s-step-Father-U-S-Records-7-29-10

A letter contained in these documents mentions that the Central Office had some questions about the Status of the Spouse's child from a former marriage. Apparently there was no proof presented that he was born in Hawaii other than his mother's say-so.

Speaking of which, Obama's released Passport is conspicuously missing the Roman numeral "II" indicated Barack Obama the Second. If his passport was copied from his birth certificate, it should have contained the "II" as illustrated on both his produced "copies."

126 posted on 06/07/2011 12:53:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: Beckwith
I had the Berkebile story (with maps) on my website.

Received a very hot letter from Berkebile’s niece informong me that Berkebile never lived in Blaine.

I took the Berkebile story down, but the possibility of a BC birth is real.

According to Radaris, she lived at two different Addresses in Blaine. MR. Berkebile was in the Air Force and was at one time (1959) STATIONED in Newfoundland Canada.

Niece Huh? I'm thinking it must have been on the Mr. Bekebile side of the Family. What evidence did she provide that she was a niece? Far as I know, Stanley was the only niece. Curious that such a niece would be following this topic. Usually it's only mentioned on "birther" threads, and it's curious that a Niece would be following those.

I'm willing to look at whatever you've got.

127 posted on 06/07/2011 1:02:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
The fact that Obama's long-form birth certificate, authenticated by the state of Hawaii, says she gave birth in Honolulu.

Yeah, when they put the words "True and Correct copy of the ORIGINAL record" then i'll grant it more credibility. At this point, it just says it's a copy OR abstract of the record on file. As an Adopted Child, I have TWO records on file. An ORIGINAL, and an AMENDED one. Till they stop using the weasel language and state unequivocally that it is ORIGINAL, then i'm not going to grant their document any "proof" status.

Nope. The August date on the transcript is a typographical error, already confirmed by the University. Fall classes in 1961 started on Sept. 18, not August 18. Some university clerk mistyped an "8" instead of a "9," so the earliest you can place her at the university is Sept. 18, plenty of time for a young mother to recover from a smooth, uncomplicated birth.

Fine, Provide a Link to your evidence and I'll accept it. Of course your statement conflicts with the Statement of her Friend Susan Blake who says unequivocally that Stanley Ann visited her at her home in August.

So? How is that indicative? Just because someone has an Aunt living in a small town somewhere doesn't mean she's living with her.

Because in 1961 it was common practice to send unmarried pregnant girls off to live with relatives to avoid the embarrassment of them being pregnant with a bastard child. The fact that Madelyn Dunham never mentioned her grandson to her co-workers seems to imply that she wasn't proud of him.

So?

So? Anyone that gave birth on August the 4th OUGHT to know how to change a diaper by the time they got to Seattle, wouldn't you think? The only way they WOULDN'T know how to change a diaper is if they hadn't been out of the Hospital (Where the nurses did it for them) for very long.

A friend. SAD went to high school in Mercer Island, and hence had friends living in the Seattle area. Haven't you ever borrowed a car from a friend?

Rich 18 year old friends, don't ya think? Generous too!

128 posted on 06/07/2011 1:22:36 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
Her passport application records wouldn't give you any indication of her whereabouts.

If she didn't HAVE a passport prior to 1964, it would indicate she was in the UNITED STATES. (Or Canada, where they are lenient about American's being there without a passport.)

I don't. I was responding to a Freeper who was speculating that she was sent to live with her Aunt in Blaine.

It wouldn't have been just before his birth, it would have been just before she started showing, say about February 1961?

Why?

Because in 1961 it was EMBARRASSING for your Daughter to be Unmarried and Pregnant. You must have been raised in a very different time period and culture to not be aware of this. Where did Stanley get the money for the ticket to fly from Hawaii to Washington? HMMMM????? From MOMMA.

129 posted on 06/07/2011 1:29:44 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
Seriously, have you ever applied for a passport? Do you have any idea what information goes into an application?

I'll tell you: very mundane things. Name, address, marital status, birth certificate or proof of citizenship, and the like.

None of this information would have any relevance whatsoever to Obama's eligibility.

Yes it would. Stanley couldn't have traveled anywhere without a passport.(Except Canada.) If one didn't exist prior to August 1961, it completely disproves the "Kenyan" theory. (Which I thought was wrong from the beginning.) Also, Stanley "carried" Barack on her passport when she traveled to Indonesia. At some point she could no longer do this. It would be useful information to know when it was that he was dropped from her passport.

Huh? So just because she dropped out of school you think it means she left Oahu? There's absolutely no reason to believe she was anywhere execpt the Hawaiian islands during those six months.

Sure, she could have been traipsing after the Young Barack Sr. with her pregnant belly, embarrassing him, her mother and everyone else involved. Funny, none of his friends even knew OF Stanley Ann. They said so. Yeah, it's complete nonsense that she might have been sent off to live with Aunt Eleanor.

130 posted on 06/07/2011 1:38:28 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
Sigh. Your belief is wrong. This particular birther myth was debunked over two years ago.

And yet birthers like you continue to repeat it as if it were gospel.

So sad. Don't you ever check your facts? It would literally take no more than five minutes on Google to verify that this factoid is false.

I have to agree with you on this. A warning from the State Department does not a ban make. A disinclination by Pakistan to admit Americans does not prove that it did not happen.

131 posted on 06/07/2011 1:40:59 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Because in 1961 it was EMBARRASSING for your Daughter to be Unmarried and Pregnant.

But she WAS married. The fact that she later divorced Obaam Sr. proves it. No court is going to grant a divorce unless there was a marriage in the first place.

132 posted on 06/07/2011 3:53:53 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity; All

133 posted on 06/07/2011 9:35:50 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: curiosity; All

But she WAS married. The fact that she later divorced Obaam Sr. proves it. No court is going to grant a divorce unless there was a marriage in the first place.


Documents show marriage of Obama’s parents a sham

Newly released files reveal ‘couple’ didn’t live together

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=308229


134 posted on 06/07/2011 9:35:57 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Documents show marriage of Obama’s parents a sham

No, they just show Obama Sr. was a deadbeat husband and dad who abandoned his family as soon as he had a chance. But we already knew that.

That's not the same thing as a sham marriage contracted for immigration purposes or other convenience. In point of fact, the evidence suggests in the documents suggests it couldn't have been a sham marriage, since Obama Sr. omitted mention of the fact that he was married to a US citizen in some of his visa applications.

Newly released files reveal ‘couple’ didn’t live together

Nope. They just show that the couple separated very soon after their marriage. Which, again, is consistent with what we knew before, namely, that Obama Sr. was a deadbeat.

135 posted on 06/08/2011 2:38:18 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Will you be posting a T-shirt where the author of this font stuff said he changed his mind about it, and doesn’t know what to think about it?


136 posted on 06/08/2011 4:09:53 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We gave you a majority, now get busy!)
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