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'Slut' Walk Feminist Won't Say If She'd Want Daughter To Dress Like One
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelsteinn

Posted on 06/06/2011 5:45:57 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

This column makes a living calling out Mika Brzezinski for her liberalism. So let's give the Morning Joe co-host credit when she dares deviate from the lefty line.

On today's Morning Joe, Mika persistently questioned Jessica Valenti, a feminist proponent of [their term] "Slut Walks," as to whether she'd want her daughter to dress like one. Valenti, happy to push others out into the streets in skimpy clothes, twice dodged Mika's question, the second time with a particularly lame line.

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1 posted on 06/06/2011 5:46:12 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Promoter of ‘Slut Walks’ won’t say if she’d want daughter to dress like one. Feminist hypocrisy ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 06/06/2011 5:47:19 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I would like to see Mika Brzezinski dressed like a slut. ;)


3 posted on 06/06/2011 5:47:53 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If people don’t think they communicate with their clothes, they don’t think.


4 posted on 06/06/2011 5:47:53 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The idea is to destroy society.
They’ll protect their own progeny for as long as possible from the consequences of that destruction.

They probably, like most libs, believe they won’t have to face the consequences of their ideas at all.

Like a gated community lib demanding “more diversity” in YOUR neighborhood, and demanding more “public transportation” to the suburbs.


5 posted on 06/06/2011 5:50:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I thought I saw Hillary, Maddow, and Barney Frank in the parade
6 posted on 06/06/2011 5:51:38 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

FOLLOW THE MONEY

who is funding or supporting these people?

I am guessing 100% OBAMA SUPPORTERS here


8 posted on 06/06/2011 6:13:34 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It always seem that the women in these type of demonstrations are the ones you would never give a second glance. I think they are just attention craving. These demonstrations give them an opportunity to live out their fantasy that they are desirable.


9 posted on 06/06/2011 6:14:07 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
She encourages young women to walk the streets wearing less than the average prostitute continues to increase the dehumanization of women. Dehumanization = increased victimization = job security for Valenti.

Like Brzezinski - but far less honestly - Valenti doesn't want HER daughter at increased risk either, only SHE won't SAY that because she makes her living by encouraging other people's daughters to be victimized.

Talk about hypocrisy.

10 posted on 06/06/2011 6:19:10 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama, the Unholy, Won.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Personally, green hair has always been a turn-off for me.


11 posted on 06/06/2011 6:34:04 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

i wish one of the walks would happen here, would love to set up some lawn chairs with a bunch of buddies and hold up placards rating the sluts as they walk by.


12 posted on 06/06/2011 6:44:27 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I have to say, these “Slut Walks” are silly but Mika has this all wrong as usual. The purpose of the “Slut Walk” is to show that women can dress however they want and it is no excuse for men to rape them or take sexual advantage of them. I agree with that and its a point Mika seems to miss. Its not an issue of whether you want your daughter to dress as a slut—hopefully no one does. But if your daughter dresses in shorts or a tight top, or is in a bikini on the beach, its no reason for a boy to force her into sex or make lewd comments anymore than a boy wearing the same thing.


13 posted on 06/06/2011 6:55:45 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I think the real issue here is unsaid.

As Sir David Attenborough might put it: “The somewhat larger, but less colorful males are held in rapt attention by the colorful, and sometimes even gaudy displays put on by the females of the species, to attract the attentions of the males. This often leads to confusion when females display themselves only to attract attention, with no real intent to attract suitors or mate. Often they are deeply offended when the wrong type of male then approaches them, or when chastised by adult females and males, or their peers, for putting on an improper or indecent display.”


14 posted on 06/06/2011 7:00:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Who is the slut walk’s target audience? Do they think their activities will convince someone who is inclined to rape a slutty dresser to change his ways?

I just don’t know what they think they are accomplishing.


15 posted on 06/06/2011 7:01:20 AM PDT by DManA
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Try this march in downtown Cairo.

That is where you find a culture where it is thought to be just dandy to rape women who dress like sluts. That is not our culture so why are they yapping at us?


16 posted on 06/06/2011 7:04:54 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

If you put a sign on your front porch proclaiming “Alpacas for Sale”, don’t be surprised or offended when folks ring your doorbell and ask to buy an alpaca.


18 posted on 06/06/2011 7:06:18 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cake_crumb

The bigger hypocrisy — that they didn’t even touch on — is why all these pro-slut leftists support islamic nazis. Don’t they know they will be flogged in the streets, come Sharia Law?


19 posted on 06/06/2011 7:09:21 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: DManA

Don’t get me wrong; I think these things are silly and yet another example of how Feminists make clowns out of themselves, but its not OK to be lewd or sexually aggressive to anyone because of what they are wearing. That’s how Muslim savages live—they can’t control themselves so they have to cover their women from head to toe.


20 posted on 06/06/2011 7:10:16 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: absolootezer0

What a great idea!


21 posted on 06/06/2011 7:14:21 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama, the Unholy, Won.)
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To: samtheman

They know. The only thing I can figure is that they have zero self control. Sharia is about total control, even thought control. They must want Sharia to control them - even with whips, stones, rowning and rape gangs - so they don’t have to even try once in a while. Not they they would ADMIT that, even to themselves.


22 posted on 06/06/2011 7:18:23 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama, the Unholy, Won.)
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To: Brandonmark

for the Love of God...don’t ping Laz!!!


23 posted on 06/06/2011 7:20:35 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
"The purpose of the “Slut Walk” is to show that women can dress however they want and it is no excuse for men to rape them or take sexual advantage of them. I agree with that and its a point Mika seems to miss. Its not an issue of whether you want your daughter to dress as a slut—hopefully no one does. But if your daughter dresses in shorts or a tight top, or is in a bikini on the beach, its no reason for a boy to force her into sex or make lewd comments anymore than a boy wearing the same thing."

Certainly, nothing a female wears (or doesn't wear) gives anybody a right to harass, molest or rape her; to suggest or even think otherwise is simply silly. Having said that, posting your family's vacation plans on facebook then leaving your doors and windows open and unlocked and your residence unattended while you're out of state for two weeks does not give anybody a right to trespass on, or take your property. Good luck with that.

People grounded in reality simply don't ignore the fact that there are people who will try to victimize them without any reason or rationale. These same people also realize that while they have the 'right' to draw unwanted attention to themselves and advertise possible vulnerabilities, they opt not to.

Would I feel tremendous sympathy for a 'slut walk' participant that was raped on the way home? Of course. Would I have recommended she not participate in it in the first place? You betcha.

24 posted on 06/06/2011 7:25:12 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

They obviously aren’t speaking to the deviant criminals who actually would do the things they say they are demonstrating against. So they must be trying to say something to me. They don’t listen.

And I don’t believe there are any people running around defending deviant criminals on the basis of what their victims are wearing.

So who are they speaking to? Me? What are they trying to tell me?


25 posted on 06/06/2011 7:46:49 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Joe 6-pack

That got a little garbled. Let me try that again.

They obviously aren’t speaking to the deviant criminals who actually would do the things they say they are demonstrating against. They don’t listen.

And I don’t believe there are any people running around defending deviant criminals on the basis of what their victims are wearing.

So who are they speaking to? Me? What are they trying to tell me?


26 posted on 06/06/2011 7:48:08 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
Funny isn't it? This whole 'slut walk' movement had its origins in the statement of Canadian police officer who may have been the only government official in recent memory to actually dispense reasonable, useful advice, and he's been excoriated for it.

Now, I wish he would have added something to the effect that, "you should always wear at least enough clothing to keep your firearm concealed," but alas, this is Canada, so he did the best he could.

These feministas are ridiculous. Nobody has ever suggested that:

1. They did not have a right to wear whatever they choose.

or

2. Their choice of clothing would excuse a rapist assaulting them.

There have always been, and will continue to be murderers, rapists, theives, etc. They will always have their victims. All that was being suggested to them is that there are certain actions and choices they could make to decrease their chances of being victimized. If they don't like the recommendations made, they could simply ignore them, but instead they have to openly demonstrate against them. IMHO, an open protest/demonstration against common sense says a lot more about the state of our civilization than a march of scantily clad strumpets may suggest on its surface.

27 posted on 06/06/2011 7:57:40 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Rummyfan
Personally, green hair has always been a turn-off for me.

To each his own.

Blond eyes and green hair is...Oh, wait; you're right, that is bassackwards.

28 posted on 06/06/2011 8:04:54 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I think a better example is this: if you have a nice car and you take care of it, AND it’s parked in your driveway for all the world to see (or you’re driving it around) don’t be surprised if people want to drive it. In fact, since your car is on display and not hidden away in a garage, don’t be upset if people try opening your car doors to get in. I mean, it’s out there, you’re “displaying it”, so why can’t people drive it?

/s


29 posted on 06/06/2011 8:38:48 AM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

That question kind of misses the whole point of the slut walks. She shouldn’t have answered.


30 posted on 06/06/2011 8:45:09 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: DManA

The target audience is the people that blame the victims. The whole thing started because Toronto PD put out a bulletin advising against “provocative” dress to avoid being raped.


31 posted on 06/06/2011 8:47:57 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: discostu

How many people is that? Most people think they are guilty of acting stupidly but who really thinks they “deserve” to be raped? Almost no one.


32 posted on 06/06/2011 8:54:41 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

At least enough for the cops in Toronto to make it an official piece of advice. And if you check out this thread there’s at least a few coming pretty close to that position.


33 posted on 06/06/2011 9:19:26 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: discostu

If you tell me you took a deduction for a home office, and I tell you “you are asking for an audit”, does that mean I think you “deserve” an audit? No sir.

The Toronto police offered valuable advise. Nothing in it implied that the rapist was somehow justified in his actions because of the victim’s dress.


34 posted on 06/06/2011 9:23:35 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Actually yes if you say “you are asking for an audit” that is the EXACT SAME THING as saying “you deserve an audit”. And trying to say it isn’t is pure clintonian “is is” BS.


35 posted on 06/06/2011 9:26:30 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: discostu

Are you aw native English speaker? Are you not capable of understanding idiomatic English?


36 posted on 06/06/2011 9:28:55 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

I apparently understand idiomatic English a hell of a lot better than you. “You are asking for it” and “you deserve it” are both sentences that have the same meaning, they both way of saying the person brought the situation upon themselves, which if the situation in question is rape, is blaming the victim.


37 posted on 06/06/2011 9:33:04 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: coop71

If you choose to leave the doors unlockedand the key in the ignition, the results are predictable. Your insurance might not pay for the loss,on account of your failure to take reasonable steps to protect your property.


38 posted on 06/06/2011 10:42:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: discostu
The target audience is the people that blame the victims.

No its not!

That may be the purported audience - but the real go is more political correctness.

The definition of a slut is a sexually promiscuous woman. These people want to be able dress in a sexually promiscuous manner and pretend no one is supposed to notice.

39 posted on 06/06/2011 10:55:07 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: CharacterCounts

Sorry but you’re just plain full of it. This all started because an idiot cop made a statement that women shouldn’t dress like sluts to avoid being raped. Nobody is talking about actually being sluts here. They’re basically showing the cop is wrong, showing up dressed like “slut” and not being raped. You’re SUPPOSED to notice, that’s the point of any protest walk.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 10:59:23 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: CharacterCounts
Yes. That is it precisely.

These people want to be able dress in a sexually promiscuous manner and pretend no one is supposed to notice.

41 posted on 06/06/2011 11:10:46 AM PDT by DManA
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To: discostu

LOL, dressing like a slut in a crowd of 300 people with TV cameras film the event is not exactly the situation the cop’s excellent advice was aimed at.


42 posted on 06/06/2011 11:13:15 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Except the cops advice wasn’t excellent, it was stupid victim blaming BS that completely ignores rape stats that show no matter what the dress it happens pretty evenly. That’s their point, the cop is a moron and his advice is crap.


43 posted on 06/06/2011 11:15:32 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: discostu
Let me suggest that you Google pictures of the numerous slut walks and read a few of the signs the demonstrators are carrying. If you think this all about some idiot cop you are naive and foolish.

Everything the organized Left does has an ulterior motive!

44 posted on 06/06/2011 11:27:52 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: discostu

The advice was self evidently correct. He probably erred in saying something that is totally obvious to any person in this society.


45 posted on 06/06/2011 11:32:12 AM PDT by DManA
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To: ArrogantBustard

You missed my point and my sarcasm.


46 posted on 06/06/2011 12:06:44 PM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: DManA

Actually the advice is self evidently WRONG. If the advice was correct muslim countries would be the safest ones for women in the world, which we all know they aren’t. Where the cop erred was in being a moron.


47 posted on 06/06/2011 12:39:49 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: CharacterCounts

Well here’s some of the text from the signs, straight from google:
how I dress is not an invitation
believe it or not my short skirt has nothing to do with you
haters gonna hate
I was wearing jeans and a t-shirt is it my fault too
I’m not asking for it until I do
my ass is not an excuse for assault
the skirt is no excuse for rape

Yeah sorry that’s not leftist, that’s just true. If you think it’s a conservative value to disagree with those signs I think you need to reconsider.


48 posted on 06/06/2011 12:46:18 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: discostu

Nobody argues it is an excuse. It is simply a sad fact of life that dressing provocatively may provoke some small fraction of the population into a violent act.


49 posted on 06/06/2011 1:05:58 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

No, YOU are arguing that it’s an excuse. And no it is NOT a fact of life that provocative dress makes anybody rapes. Again look at the muslim countries, places where women are most likely to be raped and they all wear giant shapeless bags. The behavior scientist figured out 40 years ago that rape is about control not sex and that what “sets off” rapists isn’t provocative dress or behavior but being in a situation where they think they can get away with it. Time for you to catch up, you’re spouting bad 50s dogma that has been shown to be wrong for a very very long time, bad dogma that excuses bad behavior and blames the victim.


50 posted on 06/06/2011 1:12:07 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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