Posted on 06/11/2011 3:46:44 PM PDT by Kartographer
In today’s “modern” globalist economy, we have relied upon centralized and highly manipulated trade, forced interdependency, senseless and undisciplined consumption, endless debt creation, welfare addiction, and the erosion of quality, as a means to sustain a system that ultimately is DESIGNED to erode our freedoms not to mention our ability to effectively take care of ourselves. We have been infantized by our financial environment. In the near future, those who wish to live beyond a meager staple of government handouts (if any are even given) will be required to make a 180 degree reversal from their current lifestyle of dependency and immediate gratification towards one of self sufficiency, personal entrepreneurship, quality trade, and a mindset of necessity, rather than unfounded excess.
This means that each and every one of us will not only be driven to form barter networks outside the designated confines of the mainstream, we will have to become active producers within those networks. Each and every one of us will need to discover practical goods and skills that will be in high demand regardless of economic conditions. Being that our society has all but forgotten how this kind of trade works, let’s examine a short list of items as well as proficiencies that are sure to be highly sought after as the collapse progresses…
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So we are preparing for Beyond Thunderdome?
I have provisions in case of a disaster (tornado, earthquake), certainly.
I can’t picture a scenario that would require seeds.
The list above and more is avaiable in my Preparedness Manual which you can downloard at:
http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf
If you haven’t already it’s time to prepare. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
I think that we are at the very least in for a collapse much like that of Argentina’s ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index), but as a armed society with a very large entitlement minded population our collapse will be much more violent and I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and large scale violence (look at what happened just this past Memorial Day weekend)and then there is this is going on in Chicago:”Emanuel said he spoke with McCarthy over the weekend and again this morning about the situation. The mayor said the city’s reputation as a safe place to work and shop downtown is being endangered by the thuggery. Many of the attacks are happening near the biggest tourist and shopping attractions in the city.
But, CBS 2’s Jim Williams reports, the problem of mob attacks downtown is much bigger than the weekend beatings, according to beat cops who wanted to remain anonymous.”
And it’s not just Chicago most major big ‘Blue’ cities are increasingly reporting such flash mobs and gang muggings.
I see what I call ‘Pocket Pogroms’ taking place in many big ‘Blue’ cities and if you aren’t a “0bamamites’ yute” it’s going to get Reginald Denny bad for you very quickly.
As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”
Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3
And a little something for those who do not believe:
“Chance favors the prepared mind.”-Louis Pasteur
What’s with all the “barter” discussion.
Roll out tariffs and buy American goods. America will keep jobs, and we’ll keep our money here.
No need to barter. We’ll just return to self sufficiency.
Let China barter.
Ask you elders how many depended on their gardens to feed them through the depression.
Plenty of barting was done during the great depression and there wasn’t any China goods back then.
You need to talk to your elders and learn from them.
“Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.” Winston Churchhill
Well, that about covers everything anyway.
What’s left on the list that we don’t have?
I do note that sewing supplies and a good sewing machine are not listed. Or at least, I didn’t see them.
>>Ask you elders how many depended on their gardens to feed them through the depression.<<
Not very practical. Your list is more like a post-apocalyptic list. We have survived WW IV, we will still have grocery stores during this bad spot.
A garden gives great-tasting fresh produce and saves a few bucks but today isn’t really a dependable source of food.
Critical difference.
The great depression was because America went from a producing nation to a not producing as much nation.
We already are now a non-producing nation. Any change will mean more jobs. Not less.
As I said for many a family during the great Depression their garden was the difference that allowed them to put something on the table everyday.
>>Plenty of barting was done during the great depression and there wasn’t any China goods back then.
You need to talk to your elders and learn from them.
“Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.” Winston Churchhill<<
This isn’t then. A garden and some D batteries will get you through a few months (depending on the season). Other than that it just makes you feel good for being “prepared.”
BTW: Your list is great for places that might get hit with natural disasters. Other than the seeds and other transient stuff I have all the rest, having survived the Northridge quake.
What, no bottle caps? Nuke cola? Geiger counters, maps or bobble heads?
Cmon!
>>As I said for many a family during the great Depression their garden was the difference that allowed them to put something on the table everyday.<<
In the summer or winter? In any area not in the US Southwest? I think not.
>>What, no bottle caps? Nuke cola? Geiger counters, maps or bobble heads?<<
A “Pong” game is must have!
Do you thinj that it will happen overnight and where will the moeny come from the build all the factories for these new jobs? We are broke.
It might happen just as you say, but it won’t happen over night and you will have to make do until it does.
Yes well.
Let’s start. Commence the trade war.
Have you never heard of canning?
I have the feeling you just want someone to argue with. Are you having a boring or bad day?
Oh, good grief. Stop sounding like such a helpless urbanite. Have you never heard of preserving food? Canning? Smoking? Salt or sugar curing? Root cellars?
Yes, they grew what they ate and grew enough to tide themsleves and their families over the winter. For crying out loud, there wasn’t always a Safeway. You need to get out more.
/johnny
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